crashV👀d👀
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Sept 9, 2024 11:48:40 GMT
i have a media server in my office that i rarely reboot as it just sits there serving me content to my tvs. it has had the CoPilot preview icon on the bottom right of it for months now yet neither of my laptops or main desktop gaming pc ever got it.
anybody else have it ? ever used it ?
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 9, 2024 13:53:21 GMT
It showed up on my Win10 laptop a few weeks ago.
I had really wanted it, and now I have completely failed to use it. I keep forgetting it's there.
I really should make an effort to use it though.
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Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2024 13:56:24 GMT
Co-pilot is the same as the rest of them. It just summarises the first few hits from bing. Its absolutely fucking useless. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 9, 2024 14:14:05 GMT
Co-pilot is the same as the rest of them. It just summarises the first few hits from bing. Its absolutely fucking useless. I laughed when my sister told me she had to do training workshop to use it for work. Some cunt is getting paid to deliver that at some inflated cost. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2024 14:32:32 GMT
Honestly, people need it if only to impress that its basically useless for work as anything other than a starting block. We are currently paying a company millions to migrate us from one security platform to another which includes all of our alerting. We were in a meeting trying to work out why a load of the alerts were so shit and they accidentally let slip that they were just using chatgpt (or something) to translate it from one query language to another.
And we keep seeing it with our juniors, too. You can't ask it to write code and just blast it in because the random guy from stack exchange its scraped from doesn't know your environment. Its fine to use the output as a starting point but its just as easy to google and go directly to the actual human answer.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 9, 2024 14:32:58 GMT
Work/licensed copilot is radically different to be fair, as it has direct access to tenant data. Most of the training is probably going to be around data security and what it has access to, especially in regards to things like meeting transcripts. We've been mandated by our board and cyber team to do in-house training and education for it specifically for those reasons.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2024 14:42:15 GMT
The summarisation thing is quite good for meetings and setting out actions, to be fair but, yeah, like visibility in one drive, you have to watch the permissions. I've been asked to look at it dumping out contents of a mail trace to pretty much anyone who asks last week.
I dunno, its going to burn if not to the ground then probably to knee level soon. Its selling things people either don't want or don't want to pay for. Its impossible to see how they make money out of it, much less their investments back. Like I said on the previous page, the security stuff is cool but it costs the same as an actual human. Microsoft in particular are going to be fucked when the bottom finally falls out of this.
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Post by 😎 on Sept 9, 2024 14:48:37 GMT
What's fun is we got a glimpse behind the curtain at how disorganized MS is internally with it, hence why it's been rebranded about five times already. There is no proper centralized copilot team beyond the core technology, so implementation and how it operates and behaves is up to the individual product teams leading to a disparate and ever changing UX. Definitely a "first to market" rush and yeah, wouldn't be surprised if it properly shits itself at some point and MS gives up.
We've dabbled with some Azure OpenAI stuff as well, but it's so ridiculously expensive to do anything other than rote summarization it's really just a tarted up search engine.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2024 14:57:39 GMT
That's the wild thing about it. The usual 'disruptor' workflow is to price something lower than the alternative (in this case, a human) and then gradually boil the frog when everyone is locked in. They started at a price nobody is willing to pay and then kept raising it.
And, yeah, Open AI in particular is so cooked.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 14, 2024 16:12:39 GMT
There is now a smartphone that can detect deepfakes.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Sept 23, 2024 12:26:53 GMT
Heh
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Sept 27, 2024 10:13:15 GMT
Expand the tweet for the full context and a link to the 4K version on Youtube: "The story chronicles the 320th Barrage Balloon Batallion, the only unit to storm the beach during D-Day composed entirely of African American soldiers. They provided critical protection to the ships and soldiers below them from attacks by enemy aircraft."
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 27, 2024 10:26:23 GMT
There are some interesting looking retro 50s versions of trailers for movies like Robocop and Batman on youtube that I assume were done in the same way, although their thumbnails are mainly 50s women with hourglass figures.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 27, 2024 13:01:35 GMT
These AI generated films all look like Zach Snyder has made them. Hopefully that improves.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 27, 2024 13:08:38 GMT
Is that code for they look shit then yes I agree. It depresses me that people are congratulating him for essentially artistic theft.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 27, 2024 13:35:50 GMT
On the one hand it's a really impressive thing that we couldn't even imagine a year or two ago, but on the other hand it's awful.
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Post by sport✅ on Sept 27, 2024 14:37:10 GMT
The best part was the therapist - "What's going on in that head of yours, Roger?" lol
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 27, 2024 15:41:24 GMT
I’d give it about ten years before it completely destroys the tv and film industry as we know it.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Sept 27, 2024 15:52:54 GMT
It might carve out a niche at the lower end and lead to job losses in special effects, but I doubt it will "totally destroy" the industry.
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Post by skalpadda on Sept 28, 2024 6:49:58 GMT
I can see some B-roll stuff (second unit, stock footage and the like) being in trouble soon, just like "grunt work" in writing and art. Even if that's the extent of it, it's going to be fun when whole industries no longer have any entry level jobs. Give it 30 years and nobody will know how to do anything, and everything will be awful. Disney will buy the world and they'll just keep five guys who remember what's supposed to happen in movies to tell the AIs what to do. If you don't like what they make, all culture will be dead to you.
But I'll be on my last legs by then, so fuck'em. We'll be running the black market from the old folks' home, trading mixtapes from the 90s and pirated DVDs of Alien 3. Until they catch on and take us out, but at least we'll die doing what we loved.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 28, 2024 7:03:51 GMT
Its fundamental problem is that most outputs aren’t repeatable. You can’t say ‘do it again but look a bit sadder’ it will just generate a new data set so AI is useless for repeated takes.
And, yeah, that super panavision stuff looks alright in stills but in motion it’s horrible and you can very obviously see where they stole data from. The street fighter one is funny. There’s one shot of Ryu doing a hadoken it breaks all of his fingers.
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Post by sport✅ on Sept 28, 2024 7:40:05 GMT
At least we're empowering the content creators. MOAR CONTENT FOR THE ALMIGHTY ALGORITHM!!!
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Post by skalpadda on Sept 28, 2024 8:15:19 GMT
Its fundamental problem is that most outputs aren’t repeatable. You can’t say ‘do it again but look a bit sadder’ it will just generate a new data set so AI is useless for repeated takes. And, yeah, that super panavision stuff looks alright in stills but in motion it’s horrible and you can very obviously see where they stole data from. The street fighter one is funny. There’s one shot of Ryu doing a hadoken it breaks all of his fingers. Don't know how the video generation works and I've only poked this stuff with a stick from afar, but with the still image generators like Stable Diffusion and Midjourney it's possible to have quite a bit of fine control of poses, lighting, etc. via stuff like ControlNet. From the same seed without changing much else. Expressions shouldn't be impossible. Still not replacing real people and craft, but it's probably just a matter of time before it starts being possible. |
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Post by zagibu on Sept 28, 2024 9:56:17 GMT
Its fundamental problem is that most outputs aren’t repeatable. You can’t say ‘do it again but look a bit sadder’ it will just generate a new data set so AI is useless for repeated takes. You lack imagination. They might create dedicated neural nets for every actor's face. Basically pay an actor once to make all kinds of faces under all kinds of different lighting and make 10 million pictures from all angles and you got a face machine that can forever put this actor in any movie you like. |
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Post by Fake_Blood on Sept 28, 2024 12:04:47 GMT
I can see some B-roll stuff (second unit, stock footage and the like) being in trouble soon, just like "grunt work" in writing and art. Meh, I’d like to see any AI trying to get better b-roll of a depressed woman touching a wall. |
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Post by Rich on Sept 28, 2024 12:08:12 GMT
Its fundamental problem is that most outputs aren’t repeatable. You can’t say ‘do it again but look a bit sadder’ it will just generate a new data set so AI is useless for repeated takes. You lack imagination. They might create dedicated neural nets for every actor's face. Basically pay an actor once to make all kinds of faces under all kinds of different lighting and make 10 million pictures from all angles and you got a face machine that can forever put this actor in any movie you like. Why would you need an actor in the first place? |
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Post by zagibu on Sept 28, 2024 12:48:36 GMT
To make convincing facial expressions.
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Post by UltraPyper777 on Sept 28, 2024 14:02:19 GMT
Well the Panavision AI stuff has turned to skimpy lady focus.
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Post by neilka on Oct 2, 2024 13:58:09 GMT
Copilot Vision is here to watch you browse the web and judge you for it
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 2, 2024 14:08:50 GMT
'Hey co-pilot, what do you think of this jacket?'
'I think you're 52, grow up'
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