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Post by Whizzo on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:06 GMT
FFS.
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Post by Blackmarsh63 on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:06 GMT
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Post by JuniorFE on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:09 GMT
...I literally just posted ffs...
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Post by RobEG on Sept 26, 2022 20:33:22 GMT
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Post by geefe on Sept 26, 2022 20:34:02 GMT
Oh ffs. I didn't bother. Shitty luck.
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Post by JuniorFE on Sept 26, 2022 20:34:09 GMT
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Post by Youthist on Sept 26, 2022 20:35:04 GMT
I'm going to be the arsehole and say, too bad it took being relegated for them to wake up and play some ball. Nice turnaround though, hopefully it lasts. It didn’t |
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 26, 2022 20:36:28 GMT
Saka very close there, even more evidence that he should have started.
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Post by JuniorFE on Sept 26, 2022 20:36:29 GMT
I'm going to be the arsehole and say, too bad it took being relegated for them to wake up and play some ball. Nice turnaround though, hopefully it lasts. It didn’t I'm imagining a sitcom-style freeze frame as I posted this and Morgan Freeman going "Reader, it did not, in fact, last." in his best narrator voice... |
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Post by clemfandango on Sept 26, 2022 20:39:59 GMT
Amazing 2nd half
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Post by Tomo on Sept 26, 2022 20:43:53 GMT
Ffs, really wanted Pope to do well, but he had a really poor game, not just the howler at the end.
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Post by RobEG on Sept 26, 2022 20:44:07 GMT
Annoying that the 3 goals were all self inflicted, but maybe we needed to go a couple of goals to snap us out of our malaise.
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Post by RobEG on Sept 26, 2022 20:44:54 GMT
Ffs, really wanted Pope to do well, but he had a really poor game, not just the howler at the end. Yeah, as much his distribution as anything else. Plus the howler obvs. |
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Post by Dougs on Sept 26, 2022 20:44:59 GMT
Saka very close there, even more evidence that he should have started. Realised in commentary that they played him at LWB last time out. Just play players I'm their best positions FFS! |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Sept 26, 2022 20:50:30 GMT
Ffs, really wanted Pope to do well, but he had a really poor game, not just the howler at the end. Turns out all Pickford had to do to seal the No. 1 jersey was let the others play for a few games. |
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Post by Tomo on Sept 26, 2022 20:54:41 GMT
Have we actually had a great goalie since David Seaman?
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Sept 26, 2022 21:02:04 GMT
Have we actually had a great goalie since David Seaman? Ramsdale, Pope and Henderson, so I've heard. |
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Post by jp on Sept 26, 2022 21:04:20 GMT
Ramsdale has his flaws but I honestly think he’s the pick of the bunch.
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Post by Frog on Sept 26, 2022 21:05:35 GMT
Not sure anyone has said that, just that Pickford is a bit shit.
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Post by simple on Sept 26, 2022 23:43:22 GMT
Its mad that you still hear the same defence of Maguire being trotted out by old pros every time he has a game like this - that he’s a great defender as long as you put him beside someone who can read the play ahead and someone with more mobility.
Surely if you can’t read the play and lack the movement to cover the ground (combined with a chronic inability to play the ball forward well) you’re not a great defender?
England seem like they’re going to be in a lot of trouble if the draw doesn’t fall in their favour in Qatar. Tonight was very undisciplined from both sides so it felt like it flattered them. I doubt it would have been 3-3 if there was anything to play for. I don’t really understand why all the parts of the team feel so detached from each other when its largely the same squad Southgate always picks and its not like its a creaky old squad in need of younger legs.
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Post by cristar on Sept 27, 2022 8:02:51 GMT
The Maguire defence force is absolutely baffling to me. Even United fans staunchly defending him.
I mean, if he even had an ounce of a likeable personality I could understand it. But......
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Sept 27, 2022 8:08:18 GMT
I'm not sure any United fans here are defending him and I've certainly not heard anyone outside the forum defend him. Must be Southgate fans.  |
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Post by dogbot on Sept 27, 2022 9:20:11 GMT
I've seen Luke Shaw defending him, but that's different, not United fans bothered about Maguire. Most would want him fired into the sun before being picked for anyone, including England.
It's odd that Southgate insists on keeping on picking him, though, when he's so obviously not up to it. Symptomatic, perhaps, of England's current state.
I have, it should be said, seen Liverpool fans crying over TAA being left out. I'd assumed he'd been injured or something, but his defensive form has been similarly poor. Odd that Maguire keeps getting picked, but he doesn't.
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Post by muddyfunster on Sept 27, 2022 9:48:55 GMT
I'm trying to remember times when an international manager kept with their established stars/favourites instead of going with club form and it proved the right decision, with them being rewarded with unexpectedly great performances.
Not talking about marginal cases, I mean times where the player in question had been terrible for their club for a prolonged period and there were obvious alternatives playing well.
I can't think of any, but that's probably because I'm English and for much of my life underperforming in the International jersey has been the norm. Also difficult to remember good performances in an unsuccessful side. There must be some.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 27, 2022 11:26:39 GMT
TAA not being picked in a wing back system is proper mad. It's just a shame that Southgate appears to have lost his bottle. He came in and picked players in form and played them in their preferred positions. That's all gone out of the window as pressure tells though.
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Post by cristar on Sept 27, 2022 11:44:08 GMT
Been a thread every day this week on Reddit about some players defending him, and the amount of posts sympathetic and defending him is fairly mad.
Obviously not nice to be one of the biggest meme players in football currently, but he doesn't help himself at all.
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Post by dogbot on Sept 27, 2022 11:45:18 GMT
Football threads on reddit are the domain of absolute fuckwits, though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 11:47:34 GMT
Jazzy on there offering to fight everywhere that said anything bad about Ole and slabhead.
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Post by Dougs on Sept 27, 2022 12:29:49 GMT
Haha, I'd forgotten about Jazzy.
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Post by harrypalmer on Sept 27, 2022 13:23:28 GMT
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