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Post by richyroo on Jan 31, 2024 15:55:55 GMT
FF XVI would be better if after each mission it didn't keep forcing you back to base. No spoilers.....There is even a moment in the story when you spend time crossing the sea only to reach the beach, then the game sends you back to base, for......reasons. After a bit more pace breaking dialogue, you then head back out to the beach across the ocean.
It makes no sense at all and it just pads the game out UN-necessarily.
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Post by richyroo on Jan 31, 2024 16:02:39 GMT
I realised the past few days that some of my favourite games have all been ones where you travel with an interesting party of characters.
Mass Effect, Boulders Gate 3, Final Fantasy VII, Like a Dragon, Tales of Arise etc.
Traveling with an interesting party of characters really makes the journey much more rewarding. This is what FFXVI lacks the most I feel and why I won't be picking up the next mainline entry unless they re-introduce this.
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Post by Psiloc on Jan 31, 2024 16:31:30 GMT
Yeah. I agree with that 100%.
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Post by zisssou on Feb 6, 2024 15:28:33 GMT
I'm about halfway through I think. Setting sail for Mt. Drustanus and Drake’s Breath. I'm still enjoying my time, but I can sense a lot of padding is about to hit me. The story is intriguing me, but if they throw too much padding, then I'm going to lose interest.
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 6, 2024 16:26:39 GMT
The main story doesn't really get bogged down with padding. The padding comes from the side quests
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 7, 2024 10:02:48 GMT
Worth pointing out though - as padded as they are, the side quests are still rewarding both materially and in terms of lore. It's just that they are very numerous and drag on a bit
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Post by zisssou on Feb 7, 2024 10:05:12 GMT
Yeah one particular side quest with that child was pretty chilling!
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Post by zisssou on Feb 12, 2024 9:03:02 GMT
Well that’s Hugo down for the last time.. I hope. That battle was a bit of a slog with Ifrit. I’m not a major fan of these big boss fights.. it’s a lot of just button mashing. Anyway the story has got me hooked. I’m really hoping I can get this done for Rebirth.
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Post by Tuffty on Feb 12, 2024 10:35:37 GMT
I love the Titan fight but it does go longer than you'd expect, longest of all of them for sure
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Post by Psiloc on Feb 12, 2024 11:25:44 GMT
Speaking of those battles, did anyone else find Ifrit's design a little iffy? He's just got that same "craggy" texture all over with not much else to it. It reminded me of a fan made texture pack that might have been done for an older game
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Post by zisssou on Feb 14, 2024 16:08:52 GMT
I hope I get to throttle Olivier.
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Post by zisssou on Feb 18, 2024 10:22:02 GMT
I know it’s not unique to FF, but I’m sick of defeating a boss, then it’s not finished.. you have to beat it again. It’s that anime trope. Got to heighten everything constantly. Just please no more.
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Post by zisssou on Feb 20, 2024 10:39:15 GMT
Phew that was an ending. Overall I really enjoyed it, perhaps my favourite FF story in quite some time. There's just way too much padding, and some of the boss fights dragged for me. I'll probably mop up some side quests if I ever fancy dipping back.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 29, 2024 23:26:30 GMT
Regarding the ending... ... there seems to be some debate as to whether Clive and/or Joshua survive. My thinking is that Clive dies, and either Joshua lives to write the book shown in the post-credits scene, or someone else (Jill? Gav?) writes it in his name - what sayeth thou, my fellow Font Geeks?
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Post by Danno on Feb 29, 2024 23:27:13 GMT
Yeessh done in a day? I'm all for tight focused games but this style of game ain't it.
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 29, 2024 23:28:25 GMT
Danno XVI, not VII, my [Roman] numerically-challenged friend
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Post by Danno on Feb 29, 2024 23:36:51 GMT
Danno XVI, not VII, my [Roman] numerically-challenged friend Quiet you it's been a long week. Is this any good then? I've veered between tolerance and contempt for the series since XII (which I loved). CEX were flogging it for £30 or so a few weeks back, which I was sort of tempted by, but they had about 18 copies in a town that only plays Fifa and CoD, barely 4 months after release
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Post by Ulythium on Feb 29, 2024 23:42:25 GMT
I have to confess that I didn't play XVI myself - having decided that I'm all RPG'd out, and will remain so until Dragon's Dogma II comes along in three weeks' time, I watched a Let's Play series instead. The demo was fantastic, but people here and elsewhere said that it doesn't really showcase the game's weaknesses; judging by what I watched on YouTube, I'm inclined to agree. The game has an awesome combat system that seems to have been poorly served by the 'AAA open-world fantasy RPG' formula to which it was applied.
Also an interesting story that, for my money, didn't stick the landing; a wet blanket of a protagonist, but a handful of great supporting characters; and some truly epic boss encounters, as long as you don't mind a smattering of QTEs.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 1, 2024 0:57:40 GMT
Regarding the ending... ... there seems to be some debate as to whether Clive and/or Joshua survive. My thinking is that Clive dies, and either Joshua lives to write the book shown in the post-credits scene, or someone else (Jill? Gav?) writes it in his name - what sayeth thou, my fellow Font Geeks? I was set on it being Joshua, that somehow he still retained some of Phoenix or just didnt die there. But think the game gives enough clues it can be Clive still. He alludes that hes looking forward to writing his story after the fighting. And he narrates the first and last lines of the story, its his story. Prob writing it under Joshuas name in memory of him, we know he can pick up different names easily enough. Now how he survives the end of the game is not clear, but certainly seems thats the intention. Perhaps the Rising Tide DLC will add more detail. Playing VII Rebirth and it's cool, team attacks, different playable party members, the music...but it doesn't feel immediately great like XVI did. It's more button mashy. It's fine, great even, but there's aspects to XVI's combat that always felt so amazing to me.
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 22, 2024 18:21:23 GMT
New trailer for Rising Tide DLC out in April
Also free updates for setting eikon ability sets, 40 orchestrion rolls and a new end game mode which judging from the last shot of the trailer, might hint they're gonna give some expanded ending stuff for those who can beat the secret boss
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Post by Tuffty on Apr 15, 2024 17:47:45 GMT
The DLC comes out this week, takes about 10 hrs for story alone apparently. It also came with news that Square consider that FFXVI is a success in reaching out to younger audiences go the series In addition, a free update comes out this week with new songs, buffs to Ramuh and Bahamut abilities and additional cutscenes for some side quests including showing how Clive loses the bearer mark
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Post by hicksy on Apr 16, 2024 21:02:38 GMT
So apparently the new FFXI patch is a doozy.
Pucker up Clive I might be coming for another session with you again soon to see if we stick this time.
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Post by Tuffty on Apr 23, 2024 9:29:07 GMT
Taking my time with the DLC, gorgeous area of the game. Leviathan moveset is pretty fun, basically Clive gets a gun.
Could be more dlc coming?
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