Ulythium
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 2, 2024 14:11:30 GMT
Yeah, I think accusing SkillUp of malfeasance is way off the mark here. He didn't like the game, and said as much, but he never *once* mentioned any culture war stuff while explaining his reasons; he also went out of his way to reiterate that his review was just a personal opinion, and encouraged his viewers to seek out more positive takes into the bargain.
As Jambo said, not everything is a conspiracy. Not everyone who dislikes a game is a "hater" or a "troll", just as not everyone who likes a game is a "shill" or a "fanboy."
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Post by zephro on Nov 2, 2024 14:18:41 GMT
Yeah none of the critical ones I read even mentioned culture war stuff. Just wasn't their cup of tea.
It does seem mad that in this day and age you have to spell out the hater vs fanboy malarky.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 2, 2024 14:23:32 GMT
Yeah none of the critical ones I read even mentioned culture war stuff. Just wasn't their cup of tea. It does seem mad that in this day and age you have to spell out the hater vs fanboy malarky. True. Plus the weird rise of people feeling personally attacked if a reviewer dislikes something they love.
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Post by zephro on Nov 2, 2024 14:29:21 GMT
Yeah none of the critical ones I read even mentioned culture war stuff. Just wasn't their cup of tea. It does seem mad that in this day and age you have to spell out the hater vs fanboy malarky. True. Plus the weird rise of people feeling personally attacked if a reviewer dislikes something they love. My theory is that the world has descended into unfiltered pub chat. Without the excuse of a) being drunk and b) only your friends who can tell you to shut it hearing it. Arguing like that is kinda fun with mates down the pub as you always play up a bit and go "nah Alien is a shite movie compared to Aliens". Conspiracy Theories are similar as you'd always find a friend of a friend going on about the moon landings or something, but it stuck inside the room and everyone could just go "shut the fuck up Barry."
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Post by Mark1412 on Nov 2, 2024 14:31:08 GMT
It's a logical fucked up extension of digital dopamine addiction. People always looking for validation from strangers and angry when they don't find it.
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apollo
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Post by apollo on Nov 2, 2024 15:29:33 GMT
Can't believe some are still angry over Skillup review (and also mr matty's) twats on reddit want their videos and channels taken down!
Honestly just move on, have fun with the game if you are enjoying it
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Post by richyroo on Nov 2, 2024 15:52:54 GMT
OK look, I know people are entitled to their own opinion. Sometimes they don't agree with me, and that's fine.
But he may as well have just came out and said the game is really shit, because that's how brutal it was. It didn't feel like a review to me, but 45mins of just pure nitpicking for the sake of it to shit all over the game.
I get he didn't like this, but to find no redeeming qualities in it at all is just crazy.
Oh well, his loss along with the army of morons who flocked to his review using it as some kind of justification that they were right all along.
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Aunty Treats
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Post by Aunty Treats on Nov 2, 2024 16:01:10 GMT
Why do you care about reviews if you've bought it and are playing it
Once I've decided to get something, reviews become irrelevant
If it helps, I couldn't give a single fuck about what SkillUp thinks of it
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 2, 2024 16:04:18 GMT
OK look, I know people are entitled to their own opinion. Sometimes they don't agree with me, and that's fine. You could have fooled me.
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Ulythium
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Post by Ulythium on Nov 2, 2024 16:07:50 GMT
I get he didn't like this, but to find no redeeming qualities in it at all is just crazy.
I agree that it was a particularly brutal review - a merciless critique of the kind he usually reserves for objective disasters like Gollum, Redfall, Dark Alliance, and Extraction.
Part of me wishes he'd toned it down a bit, especially if (as I suspect is the case) he's now being championed by douchebags like Mark Kern.
That said, he did find some things to praise: the varied environmental design, the stellar performance on PC, and the lack of invasive DRM. More importantly, he said that the denouement of the game was excellent, and wished the whole thing had been handled in similar fashion.
In any case, I'm glad you're enjoying the game, and I hope you'll continue to do so.
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Derblington
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Post by Derblington on Nov 2, 2024 17:30:25 GMT
I think that Skill Up’s was fine, tbh. I can see almost all of his criticisms, I just don’t weigh them as severely as he seems to.
Something that I do mostly agree on is the combat, I just think it’s a bit weak, and yet most you playing here seem to love it. It’s fast and flashy and mashy, and it has no weight or impact or pacing. I’m seriously thinking about dropping it down to story difficulty because it’s just dull.
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Post by richyroo on Nov 2, 2024 17:36:54 GMT
I'm playing as warrior and I find the hits are quite weighty, I can send enemies flying.
Also the way you can combine abilities to create detonations is very satisfying to me.
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Post by quadfather on Nov 2, 2024 18:04:10 GMT
Do people still watch YouTube?
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rajin
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Post by rajin on Nov 2, 2024 18:27:17 GMT
I cant imagine watching TikTok game reviews
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Nov 2, 2024 18:35:33 GMT
Well, I watch food-related stuff and animal videos...if that counts. I know Skill Up but I'm not sure I've ever watched a review of his - I just don't gravitate to video reviews for whatever reason. Interesting that Derblington is finding the combat dull - it's my favourite part of the game and I genuinely get excited when a battle comes along. Maybe I've got lucky with my build and options, but I find there's a lot I can do, with a light layer of strategy in dealing with crowds (or bigger enemies). Every option is satisfying, though I'll admit vanilla light / strong attacks are more anodyne. I'm not trying to sell the game - it's plain to see it won't be for everyone and those holding out for a sale are the sensible ones. I'm just having a surprising amount of fun with it.
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Derblington
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Post by Derblington on Nov 2, 2024 19:37:00 GMT
I'm playing as warrior and I find the hits are quite weighty, I can send enemies flying. Also the way you can combine abilities to create detonations is very satisfying to me. I get that it does the thing but there’s no actual weight behind the animations, or the audio. Or feedback of any kind really. God of War is weighty (a more extreme example, obviously), this isn’t a lot different to WoW, imo. It does the job, and I’m not annoyed by it or anything, I just don’t find it particularly rewarding and I just don’t really want to engage with it for longer than I have to. I find some of the boss fight just painfully slow.
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Post by Mark1412 on Nov 3, 2024 0:31:10 GMT
Caved on this, needed something light after mainlining Silent Hill and couldn't see much on the horizon to get excited about.
So far, 10/10 for the hair, wow, no wonder it took a decade. Spent most of the four hours I've played it admiring the swishiness and detail. If I were one of the artists who'd spent time on that I'd be personally insulted if anyone role-played bald.
Same for the world design, or what I've seen so far. Whole thing looks and sounds absolutely stunning. Plays lovely, too, on performance mode PS5. I turned off most of the UI nonsense, too.
Characters are a bit annoying but not as annoying as I was expecting and I don't mind the look of them now I'm playing it myself. That said, I didn't make myself one of the giant forehead monsters because they really do look stupid.
Combat seems quite good, but will need lots of variation I think over the course to stay fun. I didn't like the mage so restarted as the warrior and enjoying that more. Started on the difficulty one up from story based on some of the feedback in here and that seems fine. I've liked the bosses most so far.
So far, I'm definitely into it.
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Post by richyroo on Nov 3, 2024 9:20:55 GMT
Mark1412 Yeah Warrior is good. I upped the difficulty myself and still thought it was too easy....for the first 3 or 5 hours at least. It does ramp up eventually and provide some challenge, I have died quite a few times now but it's never been frustrating so I left the difficulty on hard. The graphics never cease to amaze me. The people that call this a mobile game are clearly idiots. I was walking through a market last night which had loads of overhead hanging lights. It looked absolutely gorgeous. I find myself constantly admiring the scenery.
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Post by zisssou on Nov 3, 2024 9:31:57 GMT
Do people still watch YouTube? I probably watch it more than anything else.
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Post by quadfather on Nov 3, 2024 9:49:33 GMT
Weird.
How do you cope with the ads? I'm in a fury with the fucking thing after 10 seconds.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 3, 2024 9:55:38 GMT
Weird. How do you cope with the ads? I'm in a fury with the fucking thing after 10 seconds. I just use an adblocker.
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Post by zisssou on Nov 3, 2024 10:08:45 GMT
Weird. How do you cope with the ads? I'm in a fury with the fucking thing after 10 seconds. Just spilt the cost across with a friend for premium.
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Post by skalpadda on Nov 3, 2024 10:15:37 GMT
Weird. How do you cope with the ads? I'm in a fury with the fucking thing after 10 seconds.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 3, 2024 10:17:27 GMT
Smarttube / revanced ftw.
I watch it much less these days mind you. Pretty much just open it up, scan through the home feed, have a quick look at subscriptions and then close it again. Content quality seems to have taken such a nose dive recently thanks to shorts.
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Post by zisssou on Nov 3, 2024 10:25:44 GMT
Depends what your interests are. Lots of hobbyists still out there with good content. Just got to search for it.
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Post by skalpadda on Nov 3, 2024 10:31:45 GMT
Every now and then I open YouTube when not logged in and instantly lose all hope for humanity. But for niche subjects it's one of the best resources around.
Anyway, Dragon Age; is the story interesting? Not asking for a plot synopsis, just whether you're liking it.
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Post by rockavitch on Nov 3, 2024 10:52:02 GMT
YouTube is the only streaming service I use and I don't watch live TV. I only watch it on PS5 though so ad blockers aren't really an option to my knowledge so I pay for premium, but i was paying for Spotify anyway so just switched the cost to it since it's got all my music anyway.
Never enough stuff on the other streaming services to justify subscribing full time for me so I find it easier just to let the stuff I want to watch build up and get a month once a year now and then.
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Post by baihu1983 on Nov 3, 2024 10:57:14 GMT
I see a lot of 20+ second unskippable ads pop up when watching on my Xbox. I'm at the point of being fine with just hitting B then trying again until the video plays or it changes to a 6 second ad.
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Nov 3, 2024 11:35:09 GMT
The game looks stunning in the way that it makes me want to upgrade my 1080p tv.
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Nov 3, 2024 11:39:51 GMT
OK look, I know people are entitled to their own opinion. Sometimes they don't agree with me, and that's fine. But he may as well have just came out and said the game is really shit, because that's how brutal it was. It didn't feel like a review to me, but 45mins of just pure nitpicking for the sake of it to shit all over the game. I get he didn't like this, but to find no redeeming qualities in it at all is just crazy. Oh well, his loss along with the army of morons who flocked to his review using it as some kind of justification that they were right all along. He did find some redeeming features...the last part of the game he said was great. Shame the rest wasn't as good. *Edit seems this was mentioned above so ignore my comment.
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