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Andor
Oct 20, 2022 9:55:50 GMT
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Post by darkling on Oct 20, 2022 9:55:50 GMT
Thanks for the confirmation. I watched it back and there was no suggestion whatsoever that it was taking place in the past. I just had to assume it was simple a tribe elsewhere in the galaxy, that was going to tie into the story somehow. I do know what you mean. It wasn’t entirely obvious at first. But then it became clear I reckon. It’s the undercurrent of looking for his sister from the opening scenes. I don't know why they couldn't just have done the hold on older Andor's face... cut to young boys face. Then the implication is clear. In Rings of Power, am I meant to assume the halfling's story is set in the past? This is how the Andor 'tribe' scenes felt to me... like a 'B' story they were setting up. |
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Oct 20, 2022 10:13:53 GMT
Post by Whizzo on Oct 20, 2022 10:13:53 GMT
I'm not normally the type that starts picking holes/looking for realism in Star Wars BUT... why was the payroll for an entire Sector being paid in cash (no electronic transfer?) and why was it being hidden under an apparently pointless dam in the back arse of nowhere? I think the answer is 'so that the heist could happen.' Because in a lot of ways the Empire and the Republic before it aren't that advanced. Also anyone who has visited the US, possibly not as relevant today as things have moved on a bit, and seeing them bring out a credit card imprinter to pay for something in the *21st century* shows there's real world examples of old thinking in advanced societies. As for keeping the cash in the dam? Well it wasn't a bad place to keep it as the heist depended on a certain situation, it came close to failing and just one squad of guards nearly killed the lot of them. One thing that is peculiar is that there were no droids? Do those poor buggers have to shift the cash manually even normally? What a shit job. |
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Oct 20, 2022 10:20:41 GMT
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Post by simple on Oct 20, 2022 10:20:41 GMT
Only up to episode 4
So far the best stuff has been seeing the Imperials on Corusant looking like proper 1970s Imperials. Although the show does go further to highlighting the problem the prequels introduced of the Empire only being a fortnight old at the time of A New Hope.
And no Tatooine (yet) is a nice change.
Some very unexpected faces among the cast. If surprising few aliens for such an obviously expensive show.
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 20, 2022 11:20:25 GMT
I'm not normally the type that starts picking holes/looking for realism in Star Wars BUT... why was the payroll for an entire Sector being paid in cash (no electronic transfer?) and why was it being hidden under an apparently pointless dam in the back arse of nowhere? I think the answer is 'so that the heist could happen.' It has been mentioned earlier in the show. The Empire being so arrogant, that they wouldn't think that people would rise against them. Or to even be that intelligent enough to do so. Keeping the stash on an otherwise desolate planet that the Empire already has a stranglehold on to build an airbase. Guards so complacent they can play card games rather than doing their job. It made sense to me at least! Star Wars Miami looked cool, the soundtrack keeps being surprisingly decent, but then the acting cinematography etc are are also at such a high level. It's great to see. From what I read, the next 3 episodes have their own arc (prison break maybe?) followed by a 2 part finale. |
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Oct 20, 2022 11:26:08 GMT
Post by gamingdave on Oct 20, 2022 11:26:08 GMT
Another great episode, taking time to have a breather and get back to some of the other characters.
I've not watched all the animated series, so not sure how much they cover, but loving how well this shows the spread of the Empire, and the birth of the Rebellion, but doing it all without Jedi or Sith.
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Oct 20, 2022 15:43:06 GMT
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Post by khanivor on Oct 20, 2022 15:43:06 GMT
Loved the tall droid showing up near the end of this episode. Such a tease!
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Oct 20, 2022 15:44:55 GMT
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Post by khanivor on Oct 20, 2022 15:44:55 GMT
Oh, after mentioning that I’ve now an idea for how the twain shall meet and Cassisn’s current situation will be remedied
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Post by mcgeeza on Oct 20, 2022 16:21:14 GMT
Loved the tall droid showing up near the end of this episode. Such a tease! Yeah that was a 'is this it?' moment. Cheeky bastards. |
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 20, 2022 16:27:55 GMT
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Post by mcgeeza on Oct 20, 2022 16:28:45 GMT
Another great episode, taking time to have a breather and get back to some of the other characters. I've not watched all the animated series, so not sure how much they cover, but loving how well this shows the spread of the Empire, and the birth of the Rebellion, but doing it all without Jedi or Sith. Yeah that was maybe my favourite episode. Not sure why. I love it when we see new stuff (wait - they have package holidays in Star Wars?) to balance the wink at the camera stuff. The Coruscant grounded concrete jungle stuff is great too. Andor is the first time it hasn't looked like a cartoon. |
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Oct 20, 2022 17:43:19 GMT
Post by neilch on Oct 20, 2022 17:43:19 GMT
Really enjoying this. It's almost like they have to resort to story telling without so much fan service to use as a crutch
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Oct 21, 2022 18:29:10 GMT
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Post by Nemesis on Oct 21, 2022 18:29:10 GMT
Heather from Highlander is the judge.
Nice to see her again !
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Oct 21, 2022 21:02:16 GMT
Post by Reviewer on Oct 21, 2022 21:02:16 GMT
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Post by simple on Oct 21, 2022 23:35:07 GMT
Just saw while skipping through the AngryJoe recap that apparently this show is struggling for viewers compared to the previous live action series. Its a shame to read but totally understandable.
Mandalorian had a lot of buzz and the expectation of see a Boba Fett proxy do what everyone always wanted Boba to do. The Boba Fett series was about Boba Fett and Obi Wan had Obi Wan duelling with Darth Vader. Whereas when Andor was announced I genuinely didn’t recognise his name and then once I learnt who he was I couldn’t remember Rogue One well enough to know why I should care, and I don’t think I’d be alone in either of those.
Hopefully it becomes a sleeper hit from positive word of mouth or pick up more viewers who’ve been waiting to binge the lot once the series is finished. If nothing else the brutalist beauty of concrete Coruscant deserves to be seen by more people.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 22, 2022 7:38:43 GMT
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Oct 22, 2022 10:34:55 GMT
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Post by Vortex on Oct 22, 2022 10:34:55 GMT
Probably a few folk like me still waiting eagerly to binge it.
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Oct 22, 2022 20:48:40 GMT
Post by atomix on Oct 22, 2022 20:48:40 GMT
I was one of those going to wait, but after the disappointment of LOTR and the positive feedback, decided to give it a go.
Good grief. Its astounding! Either its a fluke or everyone involved in this show should be promoted to hold the keys to the entire Star Wars franchise.
How you can get the same sort of random British actors as you have in other marquee series as LOTR and House of Bad Wigs and yet craft convincing characters, dialogue and plot is something that other shows sorely need to learn how to do.
I’d put this right up there with First Contact, as the show you’d happily recommend to someone with zero interest or knowledge in the story-world in which its set.
Now gutted that I have to wait for 5 weeks to finish the series.
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Oct 23, 2022 20:53:32 GMT
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Post by salaman on Oct 23, 2022 20:53:32 GMT
Thanks for the confirmation. I watched it back and there was no suggestion whatsoever that it was taking place in the past. I just had to assume it was simple a tribe elsewhere in the galaxy, that was going to tie into the story somehow. I do know what you mean. It wasn’t entirely obvious at first. But then it became clear I reckon. It’s the undercurrent of looking for his sister from the opening scenes. There were a few subtle hints. Present time Cassian is looking for his little sister. There's talk of Kenari. They show Cassian (I think at this adopted mum's place) with some sort of ornate stick. Then it switched to Kenari. There's a young boy named Kassa and his little sister and he's carrying an ornate stick, which turns out to be a blowpipe. |
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Oct 23, 2022 21:06:08 GMT
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Post by khanivor on Oct 23, 2022 21:06:08 GMT
I’m finding I’m rewatching episodes of this more than any other SW show. Such bloody good stuff
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Post by harrypalmer on Oct 23, 2022 22:31:58 GMT
It’s brilliant. Easily the best SW content since Rogue One and maybe the original trilogy.
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Post by Snake on Oct 24, 2022 7:29:26 GMT
I'm not normally the type that starts picking holes/looking for realism in Star Wars BUT... why was the payroll for an entire Sector being paid in cash (no electronic transfer?) and why was it being hidden under an apparently pointless dam in the back arse of nowhere? I think the answer is 'so that the heist could happen.' I guess that's the consequence of setting up and betraying the Banking Clan... George Lucas really was 4 steps ahead... |
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Oct 24, 2022 7:52:12 GMT
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 24, 2022 7:52:12 GMT
Have you ever seen anyone using credit or debit cards in Star Wars? It’s always cash transactions or an exchange of goods.
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 24, 2022 9:00:09 GMT
More than that, was the most recent episode the first instance of a television seen in SW?
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Post by simple on Oct 24, 2022 9:00:42 GMT
The Star Wars universe is quite medieval in a lot of ways despite all the technology.
I remember reading some theory about why in high fantasy technology never evolves and its largely down to magic having taken its place so those societies have been in a state of arrested development since the elites had no motivation to develop. Star Wars seems to be in a similar state, technology grew to reach a certain level of practicality and seemingly stopped improving thousands of years before the films are set. The only truly ‘new’ technology appears to be the Empire’s two super-weapons, everything else is old and broken.
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Oct 24, 2022 9:37:04 GMT
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Post by dasbooter on Oct 24, 2022 9:37:04 GMT
More than that, was the most recent episode the first instance of a television seen in SW? Yep, first house TV (standard def 4:3 was it not?) and TV presenter, although..../checks pedantry notes.. there were TV screens in the sports bar in AOTC. |
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Post by Tuffty on Oct 24, 2022 11:35:22 GMT
As an example of effective storytelling without having to over explain anything is that in the most recent episode there was one shot of Syril's room and he has Stormtrooper figurines.
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Post by dasbooter on Oct 24, 2022 11:47:55 GMT
I am curious whether he'll murder his mother. It would be a little dark for Star Wars but quite understandable.
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 24, 2022 11:48:43 GMT
I fucking want to murder her never mind him!
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Post by khanivor on Oct 26, 2022 17:07:16 GMT
Christ, Andor just keeps getting better and better. The tension is becoming near unbearable
This latest episode is possibly the best yet. The prison scenes are terrifying in how unsettling and oppressively banal it all is. Pretty obvious at least one script writer has at the very least had the pleasure of spending a night in the cells. You don’t nail the fear that well without experience.
The one sentence from Cinta to Vel about a rich girl running away backfills on so much of that character. One line, a pay off that took five episodes to reach. This is how to do long form story telling.
By the end this was like a TV version of Empire Strikes Back. Everyone and everything is fucked
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 26, 2022 17:25:40 GMT
The show is just so good and the prisoners had a couple of very recognisable faces, I assume what they're building is structural components for starships but I bet we never find out. Waiting a week for each episode is tricky but I'm glad I'm not waiting to binge it. One thing I rather liked is the Rogue One links Saw isn't the only character from R1 in this episode. |
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