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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 13, 2024 15:10:49 GMT
This is the sensible decision. You don't want yourself in a worse position.
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Really struggling today.
There’s loads of background to this but basically three of us have to deliver the most important thing for the company this year. We are a step above underlings. The people with the answers are overworked themselves and have consistently either fed us scraps or hid from us.
Top brass have arbitrarily brought our deadline forward by a fortnight.
My manager never touched this project as they were covering another manager’s sickness and managing about 15 people, in an also vitally important task.
Our director has suddenly become involved and then gone off on a leave of absence for personal reasons. We have a temporary manager this week who I’ve butted heads with in the past but has now earned my respect this week. Too little too late though.
Been very productive all week but following meetings I’m trying to write the necessary reports from absolute scraps. I feel like Rasmus f*cking Hojlund. I had an objective for today which I’ve completed about a third of and my brain has just totally shut down. In fact I feel like I can’t really carry on with it without a sleep reset of the old grey matter.
Am supposed to be setting off for the Foo Fighters in half an hour. The weather is sh*t, I hate that venue and have anxieties firing off about that. With the way I feel RN I honestly kind of don’t want to go and this is a band that means the world to me and has been with me since basically adolescence.
I hate feeling like this and am genuinely worried about waking up tomorrow and what sort of day I’ll have then.
That’s deadline day, Monday at an absolute push.
I’m supposed to have Monday off. Not gonna happen, and the three day weekend has kept me going this week.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 13, 2024 15:20:21 GMT
I don't have any advice mate but I don't think you're looking for any. Feel for your mate, but you will get through this just as we all do some way. I will say try and enjoy the gig and push that stuff out of your head at least for one night. Tomorrow is another day. You can fight the day when it comes.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 13, 2024 15:21:07 GMT
How did the property job interview go, Quadfather? I hope you hid away the collection of gimp wear before the video call. It went fairly well. Proper corporate etc but I'm used to that. Doesn't seem that bad and done similar stuff before so will see. The music job is proving problematic now with the hours and self employed requirements along with the workload going quiet. It's quite the risk. They're waiting for investment then moving location and then doing salaries for staff with fixed hours. I think I'm going to have to say I'll need to wait till that happens as currently its not feasible but I really want to work there. I'll say all that. Shame but only potentially a shame for a while maybe. One day... Any possibility of doing it part time for now, and then cutting down on days at the storage place? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 15:23:22 GMT
Quaddy, I haven’t spoken about this because I don’t fully know the circs , didn’t wanna kill your buzz, and had a vicarious buzz on from it being, ya know, cool music stuff! But I have three people I know of that work in music tuition
1. Trumpet dep who has frequently played with our band. Always struggling for cash, works for a music service and self employed, and finds that individual clients drop out and that schools cut funding all the time. Has had some big periods of little income and his car always falls to bits in those exact times.
2. Ex sax player from the band. Permanent full time at a school. I think she struggles with stress generally anyway, but absolutely hated and was probably bullied by a head teacher at her school, and couldn’t get out because she couldn’t match the salary and hours anywhere. She went doing it in Dubai too and hated the place.
3. Current bass player. Teaches various instruments and works I think part time for a school and SE as a guitar tutor. We start practice ideally at 7pm and he can’t come until at least half eight because he needs every lesson he can get to get by. Don’t know much about his expenses or lifestyle and whether that fuels it.
But yeah it basically seems really risky and if you do get good pay and T&Cs, you might be trapped.
If you’ve no housing costs it might make it a bit easier but we all know how devalued the arts are.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 15:25:03 GMT
I don't have any advice mate but I don't think you're looking for any. Feel for your mate, but you will get through this just as we all do some way. I will say try and enjoy the gig and push that stuff out of your head at least for one night. Tomorrow is another day. You can fight the day when it comes. I think you are precisely right. Some level of head pressure lifted writing that. I’m going to watch Dave Grohl and hopefully Pat Smear’s daft grinning face and tomorrow is another day. Fuck it. |
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Post by Frog on Jun 13, 2024 15:34:57 GMT
Hold off on the snorkel for now then Quaddy.
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Post by Dougs on Jun 13, 2024 15:45:05 GMT
Foos are great, you'll have a blast, shite venue or not. Dave is such a great front man and very much the nicest man in rock.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 13, 2024 18:32:17 GMT
It went fairly well. Proper corporate etc but I'm used to that. Doesn't seem that bad and done similar stuff before so will see. The music job is proving problematic now with the hours and self employed requirements along with the workload going quiet. It's quite the risk. They're waiting for investment then moving location and then doing salaries for staff with fixed hours. I think I'm going to have to say I'll need to wait till that happens as currently its not feasible but I really want to work there. I'll say all that. Shame but only potentially a shame for a while maybe. One day... Any possibility of doing it part time for now, and then cutting down on days at the storage place? It's still a risk to go for it as I wouldn't have any money coming in for a couple of months till I learn what they want me to learn before I can take lessons. And I can't do part time at self storage as there are only 3 of you covering the ridiculous shifts every day unfortunately |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 13, 2024 18:36:50 GMT
Quaddy, I haven’t spoken about this because I don’t fully know the circs , didn’t wanna kill your buzz, and had a vicarious buzz on from it being, ya know, cool music stuff! But I have three people I know of that work in music tuition 1. Trumpet dep who has frequently played with our band. Always struggling for cash, works for a music service and self employed, and finds that individual clients drop out and that schools cut funding all the time. Has had some big periods of little income and his car always falls to bits in those exact times. 2. Ex sax player from the band. Permanent full time at a school. I think she struggles with stress generally anyway, but absolutely hated and was probably bullied by a head teacher at her school, and couldn’t get out because she couldn’t match the salary and hours anywhere. She went doing it in Dubai too and hated the place. 3. Current bass player. Teaches various instruments and works I think part time for a school and SE as a guitar tutor. We start practice ideally at 7pm and he can’t come until at least half eight because he needs every lesson he can get to get by. Don’t know much about his expenses or lifestyle and whether that fuels it. But yeah it basically seems really risky and if you do get good pay and T&Cs, you might be trapped. If you’ve no housing costs it might make it a bit easier but we all know how devalued the arts are. Absolutely agree with all of this. It's one thing to get an interview for something you love, but I've had the wool pulled over my eyes a few times and I'm just seeing red flags. I don't have a mortgage anymore but I still need a steady income each months for bills and shit. And one thing I absolutely refuse to tolerate anymore is stress. So yeah, thanks for the heads up, as that's how it's feeling for me now. Shame, but you've got to try these things to understand the score. I'm glad I did go and get that knowledge otherwise I'd have been constantly thinking it possibly could have been a dream job etc. One thing the woman interviewing me said is that she hardly ever leaves the place as there's so much to do, so many lessons to keep the money coming in etc. Never mind. I'll let them know I'd be potentially interested if when they move they have salaried staff and fixed shifts. Thanks for your insight  |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 13, 2024 18:39:51 GMT
Really struggling today. There’s loads of background to this but basically three of us have to deliver the most important thing for the company this year. We are a step above underlings. The people with the answers are overworked themselves and have consistently either fed us scraps or hid from us. Top brass have arbitrarily brought our deadline forward by a fortnight. My manager never touched this project as they were covering another manager’s sickness and managing about 15 people, in an also vitally important task. Our director has suddenly become involved and then gone off on a leave of absence for personal reasons. We have a temporary manager this week who I’ve butted heads with in the past but has now earned my respect this week. Too little too late though. Been very productive all week but following meetings I’m trying to write the necessary reports from absolute scraps. I feel like Rasmus f*cking Hojlund. I had an objective for today which I’ve completed about a third of and my brain has just totally shut down. In fact I feel like I can’t really carry on with it without a sleep reset of the old grey matter. Am supposed to be setting off for the Foo Fighters in half an hour. The weather is sh*t, I hate that venue and have anxieties firing off about that. With the way I feel RN I honestly kind of don’t want to go and this is a band that means the world to me and has been with me since basically adolescence. I hate feeling like this and am genuinely worried about waking up tomorrow and what sort of day I’ll have then. That’s deadline day, Monday at an absolute push. I’m supposed to have Monday off. Not gonna happen, and the three day weekend has kept me going this week. It's crap when it fucks up your personal life isn't it. I had the same. Constantly snapping at my mates after work etc. Like Jambo says though, you'll get through this weekend and the Monday because you can't stop time. The thing is, is it likely to keep happening? Because if so, you might as well join me in self storage mate. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 13, 2024 18:40:10 GMT
Hold off on the snorkel for now then Quaddy. Back pocket job I reckon |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 13, 2024 18:45:49 GMT
Quaddy have you thought about teaching the music classes in one of the storage units while you're still doing the storage unit job?
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Post by LegendaryApe on Jun 13, 2024 18:59:48 GMT
Really struggling today. There’s loads of background to this but basically three of us have to deliver the most important thing for the company this year. We are a step above underlings. The people with the answers are overworked themselves and have consistently either fed us scraps or hid from us. Top brass have arbitrarily brought our deadline forward by a fortnight. My manager never touched this project as they were covering another manager’s sickness and managing about 15 people, in an also vitally important task. Our director has suddenly become involved and then gone off on a leave of absence for personal reasons. We have a temporary manager this week who I’ve butted heads with in the past but has now earned my respect this week. Too little too late though. Been very productive all week but following meetings I’m trying to write the necessary reports from absolute scraps. I feel like Rasmus f*cking Hojlund. I had an objective for today which I’ve completed about a third of and my brain has just totally shut down. In fact I feel like I can’t really carry on with it without a sleep reset of the old grey matter. Am supposed to be setting off for the Foo Fighters in half an hour. The weather is sh*t, I hate that venue and have anxieties firing off about that. With the way I feel RN I honestly kind of don’t want to go and this is a band that means the world to me and has been with me since basically adolescence. I hate feeling like this and am genuinely worried about waking up tomorrow and what sort of day I’ll have then. That’s deadline day, Monday at an absolute push. I’m supposed to have Monday off. Not gonna happen, and the three day weekend has kept me going this week. That's so shit Drakesmoke. I have no advice really other than take care of yourself. Work is so shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2024 0:05:26 GMT
Quaddy I think you can make music work if you both diversify and really put those taxi driver type hours in. It’s got to be something that you really love though. There’s a local lad around here that really is a pretty spectacular bass player and he’s just built a reputation over the years as a mega dep and ended up on a recurring national George Michael tribute tour that plays small arenas. On top of this he always seems to be doing PA hire/soundguy stuff, I’ve seen him running act management for the local venues, and on top of that doing his own car valeting thing.
It looks like you can make a go of stuff to me but have to treat as multiple side hustles adding up to a normal salary I guess. Most seem to have more than one thing going on.
To everybody in here, thank you for the kind thoughts. I went out, and will detail it in the gigs thread, and it was very good - definitely the first maybe third of it though I couldn’t fully get into it and I partially blame all the shit above.
But yeah thanks again. I always feel bad talking about troubles in here because I sometimes think I don’t offer enough support in return too so it’s even more appreciated.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 14, 2024 1:37:15 GMT
Any possibility of doing it part time for now, and then cutting down on days at the storage place? It's still a risk to go for it as I wouldn't have any money coming in for a couple of months till I learn what they want me to learn before I can take lessons. And I can't do part time at self storage as there are only 3 of you covering the ridiculous shifts every day unfortunately Having done teaching (not music) where there were no guaranteed hours, it can be stressful due to the variability of income. It depends a huge amount on the system they have set up though, and how many students they'd be able to funnel to you. It also depends a lot on the attitude of those running things, and whether you're a valued part of a team, or a disposable/replaceable resource that's in competition with all the other teachers to get students. It's probably not a remotely comparable system, but new teachers often struggled for the first few months to build up their client base. Once you got there, with a bunch of regular students that you liked, it could be good. Though of course losing one, or some external impact like Covid could hit things. The flexibility in hours could be great, but there might also be the issue that if most students are working (I have no idea who the students would be in this case) then the main hours to get students would be evenings, weekends and holidays, which can be antisocial. Anyway, that's all based on teaching a different subject in a different country, so might not apply at all. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 14, 2024 8:30:11 GMT
Quaddy I think you can make music work if you both diversify and really put those taxi driver type hours in. It’s got to be something that you really love though. There’s a local lad around here that really is a pretty spectacular bass player and he’s just built a reputation over the years as a mega dep and ended up on a recurring national George Michael tribute tour that plays small arenas. On top of this he always seems to be doing PA hire/soundguy stuff, I’ve seen him running act management for the local venues, and on top of that doing his own car valeting thing. It looks like you can make a go of stuff to me but have to treat as multiple side hustles adding up to a normal salary I guess. Most seem to have more than one thing going on. To everybody in here, thank you for the kind thoughts. I went out, and will detail it in the gigs thread, and it was very good - definitely the first maybe third of it though I couldn’t fully get into it and I partially blame all the shit above. But yeah thanks again. I always feel bad talking about troubles in here because I sometimes think I don’t offer enough support in return too so it’s even more appreciated. Yeah, this is the thing. I think if you're absolutely 100% wanting to do it seriously, you need to commit 100%. Get part time jobs to support it, get pub jobs to pay the bills etc. I'm not quite in that area. I love music but it's not feasible for me to just chuck everything in the bin and pursue some hopeful thing. My situation is more, if I see something that could potentially be a winner, I'll go for it and then I find out what it entails and maybe I could do it, maybe I can't. Or see if I can get a lucky break and/or be in the right place at the right time etc. It's difficult, like everything else, but I just keep trying stuff to see if there's an option. My age (52) drives a lot of this because I'm sick to death, more than ever now, of doing the same shitty stuff and my brain keeps rattling on about my mortality so I keep going out of my comfort zone looking for different things I'd like to try. One daydream I often have is working for some place where you get in a van, and drive around various reservoirs checking them out, monitoring them and generally looking after them. Then you drive to the next one etc. No customers, on the road a little bit, close to nature, that kind of thing. Then the next minute it's music and the next minute it's 'ah fuck it I'll just do this crappy job because the hours are better and at least I have my own dedicated time off each week' I applied for a archivist cataloguer a week ago, where you catalogue all the items in a museum. That is only 24.5 hours a week, but I could live on that and you only work 3 or 4 days a week. It's that kind of stuff I want now |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2024 8:34:23 GMT
Is it worth investigating National Trust and stuff like that, there may be grounds maintenance things going on. I presume reservoirs are the preserve of whatever water provider is in that area. Parks, forestry stuff maybe? Saying that can’t think of much managed forest in the NW!
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 14, 2024 8:45:49 GMT
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Post by LegendaryApe on Jun 14, 2024 8:48:06 GMT
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Post by wunty on Jun 14, 2024 9:04:44 GMT
Quaddy I think you can make music work if you both diversify and really put those taxi driver type hours in. It’s got to be something that you really love though. There’s a local lad around here that really is a pretty spectacular bass player and he’s just built a reputation over the years as a mega dep and ended up on a recurring national George Michael tribute tour that plays small arenas. On top of this he always seems to be doing PA hire/soundguy stuff, I’ve seen him running act management for the local venues, and on top of that doing his own car valeting thing. It looks like you can make a go of stuff to me but have to treat as multiple side hustles adding up to a normal salary I guess. Most seem to have more than one thing going on. To everybody in here, thank you for the kind thoughts. I went out, and will detail it in the gigs thread, and it was very good - definitely the first maybe third of it though I couldn’t fully get into it and I partially blame all the shit above. But yeah thanks again. I always feel bad talking about troubles in here because I sometimes think I don’t offer enough support in return too so it’s even more appreciated. Yeah, this is the thing. I think if you're absolutely 100% wanting to do it seriously, you need to commit 100%. Get part time jobs to support it, get pub jobs to pay the bills etc. I'm not quite in that area. I love music but it's not feasible for me to just chuck everything in the bin and pursue some hopeful thing. My situation is more, if I see something that could potentially be a winner, I'll go for it and then I find out what it entails and maybe I could do it, maybe I can't. Or see if I can get a lucky break and/or be in the right place at the right time etc. It's difficult, like everything else, but I just keep trying stuff to see if there's an option. My age (52) drives a lot of this because I'm sick to death, more than ever now, of doing the same shitty stuff and my brain keeps rattling on about my mortality so I keep going out of my comfort zone looking for different things I'd like to try. One daydream I often have is working for some place where you get in a van, and drive around various reservoirs checking them out, monitoring them and generally looking after them. Then you drive to the next one etc. No customers, on the road a little bit, close to nature, that kind of thing. Then the next minute it's music and the next minute it's 'ah fuck it I'll just do this crappy job because the hours are better and at least I have my own dedicated time off each week' I applied for a archivist cataloguer a week ago, where you catalogue all the items in a museum. That is only 24.5 hours a week, but I could live on that and you only work 3 or 4 days a week. It's that kind of stuff I want now I can relate to this exactly. Every time I go to leave my job (18 years now... scary) I'm like "yeah but the hours are good, I pretty much do whatever I want in work and that means I can have free time to write / music / row (or whatever else happens to be the 'thing of the moment')". I always need to be doing something besides work and I'm so comfortable in my job that it allows me to do that. Just wish it fucking paid more. The good thing with you quad is you now at least have no mortgage so you can look at those options. If it makes you feel any better I'm only ten years younger than you and we still rent. So there will never be a time for me that I can reduce my hours / income because I'll never be free of this big monthly bill. Not going to lie, if I dwell on it I get really fucking depressed, but it is what it is. What I know for you is that your mind is pushing you in the right direction, you're open and applying for stuff and you WILL get somehting that suits you to a tee. The biggest step you've made is getting away from your PM job that you had before, and because you've got far less attachment to the storage place you'll have no qualms about leaving when the right thing comes along, or even just another stepping stone to the right thing. Meantime you know your music is always there, waiting, for when you're ready. Keep at it man. It will work out for you because you want it to. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 14, 2024 9:08:56 GMT
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Post by quadfather on Jun 14, 2024 12:19:08 GMT
It's still a risk to go for it as I wouldn't have any money coming in for a couple of months till I learn what they want me to learn before I can take lessons. And I can't do part time at self storage as there are only 3 of you covering the ridiculous shifts every day unfortunately Having done teaching (not music) where there were no guaranteed hours, it can be stressful due to the variability of income. It depends a huge amount on the system they have set up though, and how many students they'd be able to funnel to you. It also depends a lot on the attitude of those running things, and whether you're a valued part of a team, or a disposable/replaceable resource that's in competition with all the other teachers to get students. It's probably not a remotely comparable system, but new teachers often struggled for the first few months to build up their client base. Once you got there, with a bunch of regular students that you liked, it could be good. Though of course losing one, or some external impact like Covid could hit things. The flexibility in hours could be great, but there might also be the issue that if most students are working (I have no idea who the students would be in this case) then the main hours to get students would be evenings, weekends and holidays, which can be antisocial. Anyway, that's all based on teaching a different subject in a different country, so might not apply at all. Absolutely agree. If I was retired and on a pension or just had cash to live on, I'd do it, but I can't just yet. I'm also not fully ready to have zero work life balance. That's really kicking me in the balls at the minute |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 14, 2024 12:44:51 GMT
Is it worth investigating National Trust and stuff like that, there may be grounds maintenance things going on. I presume reservoirs are the preserve of whatever water provider is in that area. Parks, forestry stuff maybe? Saying that can’t think of much managed forest in the NW! Yeah I've got an account with national trust and they send me every job going. It leans into the unsocial hours area with plenty of evening and weekend work though which I don't want to do anymore. But yeah. I keep my eye out for sure |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 14, 2024 12:49:39 GMT
Yeah, this is the thing. I think if you're absolutely 100% wanting to do it seriously, you need to commit 100%. Get part time jobs to support it, get pub jobs to pay the bills etc. I'm not quite in that area. I love music but it's not feasible for me to just chuck everything in the bin and pursue some hopeful thing. My situation is more, if I see something that could potentially be a winner, I'll go for it and then I find out what it entails and maybe I could do it, maybe I can't. Or see if I can get a lucky break and/or be in the right place at the right time etc. It's difficult, like everything else, but I just keep trying stuff to see if there's an option. My age (52) drives a lot of this because I'm sick to death, more than ever now, of doing the same shitty stuff and my brain keeps rattling on about my mortality so I keep going out of my comfort zone looking for different things I'd like to try. One daydream I often have is working for some place where you get in a van, and drive around various reservoirs checking them out, monitoring them and generally looking after them. Then you drive to the next one etc. No customers, on the road a little bit, close to nature, that kind of thing. Then the next minute it's music and the next minute it's 'ah fuck it I'll just do this crappy job because the hours are better and at least I have my own dedicated time off each week' I applied for a archivist cataloguer a week ago, where you catalogue all the items in a museum. That is only 24.5 hours a week, but I could live on that and you only work 3 or 4 days a week. It's that kind of stuff I want now I can relate to this exactly. Every time I go to leave my job (18 years now... scary) I'm like "yeah but the hours are good, I pretty much do whatever I want in work and that means I can have free time to write / music / row (or whatever else happens to be the 'thing of the moment')". I always need to be doing something besides work and I'm so comfortable in my job that it allows me to do that. Just wish it fucking paid more. The good thing with you quad is you now at least have no mortgage so you can look at those options. If it makes you feel any better I'm only ten years younger than you and we still rent. So there will never be a time for me that I can reduce my hours / income because I'll never be free of this big monthly bill. Not going to lie, if I dwell on it I get really fucking depressed, but it is what it is. What I know for you is that your mind is pushing you in the right direction, you're open and applying for stuff and you WILL get somehting that suits you to a tee. The biggest step you've made is getting away from your PM job that you had before, and because you've got far less attachment to the storage place you'll have no qualms about leaving when the right thing comes along, or even just another stepping stone to the right thing. Meantime you know your music is always there, waiting, for when you're ready. Keep at it man. It will work out for you because you want it to. Yeah you're right and thanks. Also, regarding the rent thing, after I lost my first house in a divorce, I lost absolutely everything. I'd worked for over 10 years investing in that and it was all for nothing. It's taken the death of both of my parents to be able to get my own place after renting for years and years too. So it's a different situation, but I totally understand how you feel. And yes, I'm hopefully going in the right direction and I'll just have to keep going. Also, if you're ok with the job, family is OK and you've got your music, I'd say that's pretty fucking sorted mate, renting or not. |
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Post by wunty on Jun 14, 2024 12:54:13 GMT
Sorry I didn’t mean it in a “be grateful for what you’ve got” kind of way, in case it came across like that. I totally know how hard you’ve had it over the past few years and just want it to be sorted for you.
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Post by wunty on Jun 14, 2024 12:55:20 GMT
And thanks. Sometimes it feels like this rent thing is all encompassing, and it’s nice to be reminded that it actually isn’t.
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