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Post by razz on Aug 3, 2022 19:55:03 GMT
I just tried to play BNG, it's too fast, Is that normal? Is there something I'm doing wrong? I can play WipeOut HD on phantom. But BNG is a little too difficult for me, I'm all over the place, especially when the vehicle reaches toward top speed, I completely lose control. It's like normal, normal, then all of sudden my ship is going at lightspeed. I've got the fps display on, it's solid at 60
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Post by 😎 on Aug 3, 2022 20:12:56 GMT
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Post by Fake_Blood on Aug 3, 2022 20:21:52 GMT
It’s telling that devs are putting the time in to send early builds for verification, even with the small number of units out there. Shows momentum.
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Post by erniewhatbert on Aug 3, 2022 21:02:03 GMT
I just tried to play BNG, it's too fast, Is that normal? Is there something I'm doing wrong? I can play WipeOut HD on phantom. But BNG is a little too difficult for me, I'm all over the place, especially when the vehicle reaches toward top speed, I completely lose control. It's like normal, normal, then all of sudden my ship is going at lightspeed. I've got the fps display on, it's solid at 60 Even the slower classes are fast. After being away from it for a few years, I have to restart from scratch to adjust to the speed again. Previously I got three classes in, which felt not far off phantom in the earlier Wipeouts. |
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Post by razz on Aug 3, 2022 21:19:23 GMT
So that's normal then? Wow. I can't slow down enough to take the corners, I'm holding the air break but always ping pong around. I guess the game just has a steep leaning curve. I have to admit Wipeout HD is the only one I've managed to get good at in the series, all the others handled too twitchy for me.
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Post by kal on Aug 4, 2022 7:06:55 GMT
You really need stiff analogue sticks to play Wipeout, which is something that Sony controllers have never really had.
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Post by malek86 on Aug 4, 2022 16:49:07 GMT
It’s telling that devs are putting the time in to send early builds for verification, even with the small number of units out there. Shows momentum. Even if there aren't many Steam Deck owners out there yet, I imagine that the average Steam Deck owner buys a crapton more games than the average mainstream player, so it's a potentially very lucrative market for anyone who can tap into it. |
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Post by harrypalmer on Aug 4, 2022 18:12:34 GMT
Got my email! The predictor was consistently saying end of august/early September so it’s almost a month early.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Aug 4, 2022 18:37:41 GMT
It’s telling that devs are putting the time in to send early builds for verification, even with the small number of units out there. Shows momentum. Even if there aren't many Steam Deck owners out there yet, I imagine that the average Steam Deck owner buys a crapton more games than the average mainstream player, so it's a potentially very lucrative market for anyone who can tap into it. “These fuckers will buy anything!” I wonder how much work it takes though, might be as simple as playing around with the settings until you hit 30fps most of the time and adding the appropriate control icons. |
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Post by dfunked on Aug 4, 2022 20:16:13 GMT
Presumably the controller icons are just stuff that devs have had available for yonks due to the steam controller. Probably loads more to it, but does it run properly and not need a keyboard etc seems to be the main goal.
Just wish Bungo would change their stance a bit. Hopefully now that other Sony studios are showing some effort they might do too.
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Post by 😎 on Aug 4, 2022 20:26:35 GMT
Honestly Valve needs to overhaul the verified stuff anyway. They mark things as partially supported or unsupported for things like the onscreen keyboard being needed to name a save file or something, and there’s some verified games that run like absolute dogshit - Horizon Zero Dawn is the one most complained about, it’s pretty bad.
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Post by uiruki on Aug 4, 2022 20:37:10 GMT
I think that's about it: runs fine under the 'default' Proton (ie no unsupported video codecs) at default settings on load, text isn't too small, automatically bring up the keyboard if you need it, doesn't have any weird window-based launchers, controls have at the least Xbox-based glyphs and don't demand any mouse stuff (which at least is easily doable but still brings it down to Playable). They aren't asking the world ad most modern engines get you most of the way there which is why so many games are supported.
The main 'problem' for people on anti-cheat, aside from implementing the tech, is the fact that you can't do the super deep rootkit-style anti-cheat on Linux so it's less 'effective'.
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Post by Tomo on Aug 6, 2022 20:44:30 GMT
My Deck just had its first semi shit-fit. Been playing Ruiner on-off today. Hit about 3 hours total. Latest session, suddenly the frame rate went super choppy and then I tried to reboot the device and it kinda just went black screen. Eventually managed to get it rebooted. Had a few temperature warnings today as well, which I think are part of new software release.
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Post by Tomo on Aug 6, 2022 20:45:17 GMT
Oh ha, literally just booted Deck up again and little update which says "Bugfix: fixes stutter in some games." Wonder if this was what I was experiencing.
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Post by 😎 on Aug 6, 2022 20:51:49 GMT
Yeah, the 3.3 update tanked performance for a lot of games. They’re super quick on fixes though.
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Post by malek86 on Aug 7, 2022 21:29:30 GMT
Presumably the controller icons are just stuff that devs have had available for yonks due to the steam controller. Probably loads more to it, but does it run properly and not need a keyboard etc seems to be the main goal. Just wish Bungo would change their stance a bit. Hopefully now that other Sony studios are showing some effort they might do too. It's weird. If you look at their website, it says that Destiny 2 isn't officially supported on laptops. Of course it will run anyway, but it's still a pretty weird thing to say. Performance isn't great either. My GTX 1650 laptop can't always hold 60fps even at low settings (it does usually well enough run at 55-60fps in open areas, but any enemy-intensive activity such as the Wellspring will tank the framerate to lows of 30-40fps). And the Steam Deck is less powerful than that. Though to be fair, going from 1080p to 720p doesn't help and GPU usage just gets lower, so there must be some bottleneck. Unfortunately they seem to only care about performance on consoles. If a Series S can run this at a stable 1080p60, I'm sure my laptop shouldn 't be doing this badly. If they ever solved whatever issue is plaguing the PC version, I think the Steam Deck could handle it just fine at 720p. |
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Post by dfunked on Aug 7, 2022 21:32:25 GMT
Yeah, I think it's mainly just the anti cheat nonsense that they're struggling with/don't even want to bother with. I'm kind of curious to try dual booting windows to see how it actually runs on the hardware.
Dates of eternity tanked FPS in D2 for me so badly I rarely even play it despite enjoying it. They really could've done with continued support from Vicarious Visions etc for the PC build, as it's just been a constant downward slope of performance loss.
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Post by malek86 on Aug 7, 2022 21:41:02 GMT
Yeah, I think it's mainly just the anti cheat nonsense that they're struggling with/don't even want to bother with. I'm kind of curious to try dual booting windows to see how it actually runs on the hardware. Dates of eternity tanked FPS in D2 for me so badly I rarely even play it despite enjoying it. They really could've done with continued support from Vicarious Visions etc for the PC build, as it's just been a constant downward slope of performance loss. That would be interesting. I've seen some videos on Youtube (however reliable those tend to be...) and it seemed okay enough, but nobody tried any of the most intensive activities. Also they were all off-screen videos, which makes it very hard to tell, and the framerate counter was too small to read. |
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Post by harrypalmer on Aug 8, 2022 15:01:10 GMT
Got my email! The predictor was consistently saying end of august/early September so it’s almost a month early. Got my tracking number! Obviously it doesn't work but I've got my tracking number! I think the anticipation and uncertainty has cranked my ass temps way higher than if I'd have been able to walk into a shop and buy one. |
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Post by kilters on Aug 9, 2022 10:52:55 GMT
My 256GB Deck arrived yesterday. It's a lovely bit of kit. Seems to run the vast majority of my library. Build quality is excellent. There was some talk online about the screen not being great which I don't agree with. Lots of detail and plenty bright enough. Speakers are excellent. Runs subnautica very well even with a 7 watt limit. Looks and performs better than my PC which has a GTX 970.
XCloud works extremely well on this despite a bit of a faff to get it set up.
My main concern is use case. Will I use it enough to justify keeping it.
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Post by dfunked on Aug 9, 2022 10:59:40 GMT
My main concern is use case. Will I use it enough to justify keeping it. Yeah, that's where I'm at now. I've only used it a handful of times so far and it's definitely nice to have around, but it's hard to justify it. Grabbed a few titles like inscryption and might try with my dock to see if it gets more use with the option of TV play there. |
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Post by cubby on Aug 9, 2022 12:15:06 GMT
Ugh, with all this talk of energy bills and now some more stuff to be done to my car, can I really chuck £500+ on something I'll probably not end up using that much. I can easily see it happening.
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Post by tonyferrino on Aug 9, 2022 12:20:17 GMT
I'm justifying it by saying I'm going to game on the Deck, thereby saving energy costs on the 3070 PC.
I haven't done the maths!
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Post by Fake_Blood on Aug 9, 2022 12:29:26 GMT
Also if you look at the prices on ebay for these, with the money you will gain you can at least turn on central heating for an hour or two next winter.
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Post by dndhm on Aug 9, 2022 12:33:15 GMT
I have barely touched my desktop PC since I got my Steam Deck a month ago. I was really starting to resent my PC gaming time in the evenings though, because I associate my office so much with work.
There are very few upcoming games I can think of which will demand to be played on the PC. I could see getting rid of it altogether if the next generation of Steam Deck is a bit more capable, relative to whatever generation of games we're in by then.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Aug 9, 2022 13:33:58 GMT
I’m going through The Witness on this whilst piping in podcasts from my phone via the Bluetooth input option, so it gets mixed to my wired headphones. Quite relaxing gaming experience.
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Post by uiruki on Aug 9, 2022 14:37:10 GMT
I’m going through The Witness on this whilst piping in podcasts from my phone via the Bluetooth input option, so it gets mixed to my wired headphones. Quite relaxing gaming experience. Is that doable in gaming mode or did you have to do that in desktop? That's the exact kind of thing I'd get a lot of mileage from. |
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Post by Fake_Blood on Aug 9, 2022 15:06:31 GMT
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Post by uiruki on Aug 9, 2022 15:43:12 GMT
Interesting, I wonder if I can do that in Windows on my desktop too.
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Post by Tomo on Aug 9, 2022 16:14:47 GMT
I'm also playing this more than my main PC nowadays, mainly because it's a change of scenery from where I sit all day working from home. But yeah, 500 quid is a lot of money at the moment, certainly.
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