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Post by dfunked on Mar 29, 2022 8:38:31 GMT
Have we done how Will Smith is a has-been and peaked years ago yet on this page?...
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Post by Vandelay on Mar 29, 2022 8:39:41 GMT
We need to do "I got into one little fight and my mum got scared" joke first
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Post by drhickman1983 on Mar 29, 2022 9:00:41 GMT
It's certainly got people talking about the Oscars. Or at least made them aware that they still exist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 9:07:47 GMT
She has a shaved head, he made a film related shaved head quip. No awards gag justifies marching on stage and assaulting another person. Spme weird fucking Qanon type analysis going on in this thread. No. A shaved head is a choice. She has a disease that makes her hair fall out. If her head was bald due to chemo would you also have the same reaction?
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Post by dfunked on Mar 29, 2022 9:08:51 GMT
... and the cycle continues
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 9:10:56 GMT
For me the amazing thing is everyone talking about how will Smith is some Saint and Americas dad etc.
I must be out of the loop, I haven't seen him in anything good in years and mostly know him as that guy who kept trying to make his son into an action star by bankrolling shirty vehicles for him.
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Post by geefe on Mar 29, 2022 9:22:04 GMT
I think he was/ is making the Tom Hanks transition, just very, very late. Hanks did it after a few comedies. Smith has done it after about a decade of duds.
To say he's still bankable is nonsense. He wasn't even asked back for Suicide Squad 2.
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Post by rawshark on Mar 29, 2022 9:28:33 GMT
I don’t think anyone has gone full blown Qanon or overly woke here. It’s just a weird thing that happened that touches on a number of topics. Anyway, yesterdays chip paper now. Water under the bridge. A celebrity marched on stage and hit another celebrity in the head in front of millions on live TV. I'd describe that as more than weird. What's weird is the absurdity of trying to justify it as some exercise in awareness and sensitivity to alopecia sufferers. I think generally now the dust has settled no one thinks it was justifiable. I think it was just weird (or at least out of the ordinary) seeing a high profile person fail to deal with his emotions in a very public way in real time, in that you don't see it every day. I remember when Jerry Sadowitz got knocked out on stage in about 30 seconds flat in Montreal after saying ""Hello moosefuckers! I tell you why I hate Canada, half of you speak French, and the other half let them. Why don't you speak Indian? You might as well speak the language of the people you stole the country off of in the first place." Compared to that neither Chris Rock or Will Smith were really trying.
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Post by dfunked on Mar 29, 2022 9:28:37 GMT
Yeah, it's not like he's won any major awards recently or anything. Totally unbankable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 9:30:10 GMT
I think the whole incident can be distilled down to: They were both in the wrong and they are both cunts.
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Post by rawshark on Mar 29, 2022 9:35:48 GMT
I think he was/ is making the Tom Hanks transition, just very, very late. Hanks did it after a few comedies. Smith has done it after about a decade of duds. To say he's still bankable is nonsense. He wasn't even asked back for Suicide Squad 2. I don't think you can compare the two career paths. Tom hanks didn't do Boom! Shake the Room. Even though he should have. Will Smith made the transition to serious films way back in 2001 with Ali. As for Suicide Squad, I doubt he fought to be in the sequel considering how atrocious it ended up being. He has had his fair share of duds though. Then again I don't remember Cloud Atlas setting the world on fire either. Some things just don't work out.
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Post by Youthist on Mar 29, 2022 9:35:55 GMT
Comedians say things to shock the audience and create a reaction every single day (this was just a shit attempt at it from Rock). Deserving of an audience member to come up and assault him or any comedian doing the same thing? No - fuck that. If we are doing cunt level, then Will Smith cuntness is off the charts compared to a poor attempt at shock humour from Chris Rock.
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Post by ozthegweat on Mar 29, 2022 9:39:50 GMT
I think the whole incident can be distilled down to: They were both in the wrong and they are both cunts. If the past 24 hours have told me anything, is that it's apparently not possible to look at it this way. Saying Rock is a wanker means you support physical violence, and saying Smith is a wanker means you support making fun of sick people and/or are a racist.
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Post by anephric on Mar 29, 2022 9:47:08 GMT
Whoever wins, we lose.
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Post by Lukus on Mar 29, 2022 9:57:01 GMT
Where's Beastmaster's tracking spreadsheet when you need it?
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Post by rawshark on Mar 29, 2022 9:57:27 GMT
Remember when Russell Crowe went backstage and bollocked the producer for playing him off during his speech? That was pretty cunty too.
It's a very English thing, but there's something to be said about seething about something and shitposting about it later. Or just do like Paddington Bear and give someone a good hard stare when someone forgets their manners.
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Post by Kay on Mar 29, 2022 10:20:11 GMT
I read someone say that the GI Jane line may also have been a reference to the fact that Demi Moore left her husband to marry a much younger guy (Ashton Kutcher). I doubt it was really that deep tbh, but if it was then it does make the angry reaction a little bit more understandable.
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Post by ozthegweat on Mar 29, 2022 10:35:05 GMT
I read someone say that the GI Jane line may also have been a reference to the fact that Demi Moore left her husband to marry a much younger guy (Ashton Kutcher). I doubt it was really that deep tbh, but if it was then it does make the angry reaction a little bit more understandable. While it may be that Rock had that in mind, I don't think Smith made the connection in that short amount of time. He laughed at the joke, saw that his wife was deeply hurt by it, and then acted on that.
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Post by dominalien on Mar 29, 2022 10:47:06 GMT
I’d say punching the guy talking smack about your girl/wife is a time-honoured tradition all over the world? Even if she sleeps around.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 29, 2022 11:14:25 GMT
I don’t think anyone has gone full blown Qanon or overly woke here. It’s just a weird thing that happened that touches on a number of topics. Anyway, yesterdays chip paper now. Water under the bridge. A celebrity marched on stage and hit another celebrity in the head in front of millions on live TV. I'd describe that as more than weird. What's weird is the absurdity of trying to justify it as some exercise in awareness and sensitivity to alopecia sufferers. Two entirely different points
My posts are in response to 'you just lost your hair, you're hot and rich, get over it'
Whether other people think she looks good with a shaved head or not has absolutely no bearing on how she should feel about it. It's not "vanity" or a "hairstyle" either, it's the affects on her identity and self esteem
I don't think the joke warrated being physically attacked, but that is a separate issue
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Post by elstoof on Mar 29, 2022 11:39:16 GMT
I read someone say that the GI Jane line may also have been a reference to the fact that Demi Moore left her husband to marry a much younger guy (Ashton Kutcher). I doubt it was really that deep tbh, but if it was then it does make the angry reaction a little bit more understandable. Chris Rock has been making the same jokes for the last 20 years, it’s no surprise that his point of reference for bald women jokes is a 20 year old film
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 29, 2022 11:39:46 GMT
I think he was/ is making the Tom Hanks transition, just very, very late. Hanks did it after a few comedies. Smith has done it after about a decade of duds. To say he's still bankable is nonsense. He wasn't even asked back for Suicide Squad 2. He was asked back for the sequel, Idris Elba was going to take over the character but the door was left open for Smith to come back. Did you not notice that Elba's character was pretty much the same as Smith's?
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 29, 2022 11:43:28 GMT
Yeah, he was filming King Richard.
He’s made some shit recently but it’s mostly done pretty well. He’ll never reach the heights of the 90s again though.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Mar 29, 2022 11:43:49 GMT
Its absurd.
Even if he came on and said "Damn bitch, that alopecia is fucked up." It's doesn't justify being physically assaulted.
The argument that provocation validates assault is the kind of dumb shit that you hear from domestic abusers.
Trying to justify the "Chat shit get banged" school of thought with being an ally of Alopecia Association of America is pretty shaky ground.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 11:44:10 GMT
Somewhere Beasty is wondering why people are talking about Denzels role in suicide squad.
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Post by dogbot on Mar 29, 2022 11:52:01 GMT
Its absurd. Even if he came on and said "Damn bitch, that alopecia is fucked up." It's doesn't justify being physically assaulted. The argument that provocation validates assault is the kind of dumb shit that you hear from domestic abusers. Trying to justify the "Chat shit get banged" school of thought with being an ally of Alopecia Association of America is pretty shaky ground. I'm not sure if anyone has actually made that argument. People have suggested - separately - that they understand defending the honour of a partner and that the joke may have been in pretty poor taste, but I haven't seen anyone using a combination of these to justify violence. You can put your torch away.
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 29, 2022 11:53:57 GMT
Not sure punching someone in the face on TV and getting everyone paying attention to the joke and the medical condition they’re sensitive about really counts as defending her honour.
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Post by elstoof on Mar 29, 2022 11:54:54 GMT
He’d have had a lot more impact by just calmly insisting he apologised immediately in front of everyone
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 11:55:17 GMT
We're back into the geefe "it was a slap" cycle of the thread.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Mar 29, 2022 11:56:39 GMT
Defending the honour of a partner?
Maybe he should have slapped him with a velvet glove and they could have duelled at dawn.
You can repackage assault however you like, unless your being attacked hitting people is for preschoolers, domestic abusers and the emotionally unstable.
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