anephric
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Post by anephric on Mar 29, 2022 0:15:07 GMT
I own GI Jane on bluray. I'm just putting that out there for context.
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Post by 😎 on Mar 29, 2022 0:20:53 GMT
Which scene goes on a-b repeat
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Mar 29, 2022 0:21:03 GMT
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 29, 2022 0:29:38 GMT
I’m not offended, I’m just easily annoyed. To put me in context, I had a weirdly alienated childhood, a surprisingly violent early teens in a boarding school (ritual beatings, thrown down a staircase in a sack, hit every day kind of stuff) raped when I was 18, bashed unconscious and robbed on a train station when I was 20, a generally miserable adult life due to mystery illnesses that are only more recently diagnosed and being dealt with, somehow collided with two different murders (that otherwise had nothing to do with me), then was stabbed dozens of times myself after an eighteen month breakdown over the second murder, by a fucking nutter who thought everything was about him, among other things. ...I can't even imagine. Once again, I'm very sorry that all of this happened to you. Completely agree on that point. As crass as the joke may have been, Will Smith's reaction was absolutely not appropriate either. Confront the guy sure, but even that should perhaps have been done backstage (although I have a feeling that, the joke having been made, if Smith hadn't said anything at that point he'd have been panned for his lack of response instead...) and definitely shouldn't have escalated to violence, unless both men kept pushing each other to it I guess... Frankly all of this could have been avoided with some backstage talk before the show even began. It couldn't have been that hard to go "Hey man, maybe don't mention my wife's condition while you're up there, it's a sensitive subject". Hell, he might have done so for all we know, and Rock ignored him (which would make him much more of a jerk). Instead we got this whole mess... |
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 29, 2022 0:38:22 GMT
Maybe she liked having hair though. Suffering isn't really relative
I imagine losing your hair can be difficult (especially for someone in the public eye). Debilitating illness is also difficult. It's not a contest. We're also talking about a thing that happened in the heat of the moment, on live TV
By your logic, we just keep going down the path of x is worse off than y, who is worse off than z until no one is allowed to be upset about anything
To be honest, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks of baldness in women. It's for her to decide how she feels about it
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anephric
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Post by anephric on Mar 29, 2022 0:38:48 GMT
Which scene goes on a-b repeat When Viggo reads dat sweet, sweet poetry. Splooge. |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Mar 29, 2022 1:05:21 GMT
It seems that the recent trend has been that awards ceremonies need to become more and more like roasts of the guests, in a desperate attempt to attract viewers.
This seems like the natural culmination of this path.
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Post by spacein_vader on Mar 29, 2022 1:13:41 GMT
He was in one little fight and his mom got scared...
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Mar 29, 2022 4:41:27 GMT
Maybe she liked having hair though. Suffering isn't really relative I imagine losing your hair can be difficult (especially for someone in the public eye). Debilitating illness is also difficult. It's not a contest. We're also talking about a thing that happened in the heat of the moment, on live TV By your logic, we just keep going down the path of x is worse off than y, who is worse off than z until no one is allowed to be upset about anything To be honest, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks of baldness in women. It's for her to decide how she feels about it It does matter, when so many have come out as if it’s justified for a guy to commit a crime of physical violence and scream abuse like a crazy person because some guy made a movie reference joke about a woman’s hairstyle. That. Is. Fucking. Pathetic. |
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Post by Dougs on Mar 29, 2022 4:54:19 GMT
A whole conversation about alopecia, and not one mention that I've seen of the other sufferer, Gail Porter. And how her arse was plastered over the Houses of Parliament.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Mar 29, 2022 5:40:42 GMT
Maybe she liked having hair though. Suffering isn't really relative I imagine losing your hair can be difficult (especially for someone in the public eye). Debilitating illness is also difficult. It's not a contest. We're also talking about a thing that happened in the heat of the moment, on live TV By your logic, we just keep going down the path of x is worse off than y, who is worse off than z until no one is allowed to be upset about anything To be honest, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks of baldness in women. It's for her to decide how she feels about it It does matter, when so many have come out as if it’s justified for a guy to commit a crime of physical violence and scream abuse like a crazy person because some guy made a movie reference joke about a woman’s hairstyle. That. Is. Fucking. Pathetic. How many? And how many have said it's not OK to do that? I don't think it's alright and there are others here who have said the same
If you're talking about Twitter/social media, there's people on there supporting way worse things than Will Smith giving Chris Rock a love tap
If you have a problem with how people are interpreting the altercation, take it up with them. But you can't tell Jada how to feel about her alopecia or that she has no right to be sensitive about it
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Post by Dougs on Mar 29, 2022 5:54:49 GMT
Completely agree. I imagine for someone in the public eye, it's devastating for their mental health and self esteem. As you say, it's not a competition - you can have sympathy for her as well as the millions of people with debilitating conditions.
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geefe
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Post by geefe on Mar 29, 2022 5:57:43 GMT
Given that we live in a society where young black girls are told how they can and can't have their hair, in school (along with being strip searched for no reason and no parents around), it's very reductive to suggest how they can and can't feel about their hair.
Again - this isn't a "X is worse". It's that it's not for us to decide how someone else should feel about how something affected them.
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Mar 29, 2022 5:58:24 GMT
A whole conversation about alopecia, and not one mention that I've seen of the other sufferer, Gail Porter. And how her arse was plastered over the Houses of Parliament. It's true, Gail and her arse are the real victims here. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Mar 29, 2022 6:17:37 GMT
She has a shaved head, he made a film related shaved head quip.
No awards gag justifies marching on stage and assaulting another person.
Spme weird fucking Qanon type analysis going on in this thread.
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Post by Dougs on Mar 29, 2022 6:24:04 GMT
Of course. He lost control and there should be consequences. He could easily have called him out on stage there and then and made it clear such a gag was not ok. Losing his temper does not reflect well on him at all.
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Mar 29, 2022 6:25:52 GMT
In his apology Smith says "I was out of line", which suggests that the slap didn't go as planned and he hit Rock harder than they had rehearsed. The evidence for this being staged just keeps growing.
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Post by elstoof on Mar 29, 2022 6:42:52 GMT
A whole conversation about alopecia, and not one mention that I've seen of the other sufferer, Gail Porter. And how her arse was plastered over the Houses of Parliament. Probably the best thing that’s happened in my lifetime |
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 29, 2022 6:43:05 GMT
In his apology Smith says "I was out of line", which suggests that the slap didn't go as planned and he hit Rock harder than they had rehearsed. The evidence for this being staged just keeps growing. What a strange conclusion. |
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Post by Dougs on Mar 29, 2022 6:47:58 GMT
A whole conversation about alopecia, and not one mention that I've seen of the other sufferer, Gail Porter. And how her arse was plastered over the Houses of Parliament. Probably the best thing that’s happened in my lifetime We are in a 90s revival, should be a reprint imo. |
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Post by elstoof on Mar 29, 2022 6:58:51 GMT
Labour manifesto should propose a full time re-projection
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Lizard
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Post by Lizard on Mar 29, 2022 6:59:47 GMT
Jo Guest for Foreign Secretary too.
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Post by rawshark on Mar 29, 2022 7:01:03 GMT
I don’t think anyone has gone full blown Qanon or overly woke here. It’s just a weird thing that happened that touches on a number of topics. Anyway, yesterdays chip paper now. Water under the bridge.
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Post by Sarfrin on Mar 29, 2022 7:22:58 GMT
Jesus fucking Christ, now we’ve reached “You can’t make jokes about missing hair if the missing hair would have been African hair, even if you’re a black guy to begin with.” Stuff like this is why Trump gets votes. I can’t tell if you’re being serious. It's a bit of a reach from "I'm annoyed someone did a woke." to "I'm voting for an incoherent racist lunatic." |
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Post by geefe on Mar 29, 2022 7:34:09 GMT
I had forgotten about Gail Porter's bum. Good work, thread.
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cubby
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Post by cubby on Mar 29, 2022 7:46:25 GMT
The technology is so much better nowadays we could probably project her arse onto the sky now. Make our own version of the Aurora Borealis.
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Post by elstoof on Mar 29, 2022 7:51:02 GMT
She had a beautiful ariola borealis back in the day
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Mar 29, 2022 8:01:05 GMT
I don’t think anyone has gone full blown Qanon or overly woke here. It’s just a weird thing that happened that touches on a number of topics. Anyway, yesterdays chip paper now. Water under the bridge. A celebrity marched on stage and hit another celebrity in the head in front of millions on live TV. I'd describe that as more than weird. What's weird is the absurdity of trying to justify it as some exercise in awareness and sensitivity to alopecia sufferers. |
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Post by Fake_Blood on Mar 29, 2022 8:27:36 GMT
Looking at the GT7 thread, at least we got a new meme template out of it.
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Post by JuniorFE on Mar 29, 2022 8:32:11 GMT
Oh, it's all over the place, it was added to imgflip's meme generator just a couple of hours after it happened Humans have evolved to be really damn fast at meme-making  (of course I'm hardly one to talk...) |
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