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Post by wunty on Mar 22, 2024 9:56:10 GMT
Like all microtransactions in games I'm putting them under the "if you don't want to pay for that stuff, don't pay for that stuff" bracket. I'm a little surprised this game has them but I'll do what I do in every other game. Ignore them. It's part of modern gaming. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan whatsoever. In fact I quite often just sit in an empty room, tut and shake my head. What can you do though. Somewhere, people are spending money this way, that's why they're all doing it. If no one bought stuff, they wouldn't do it. My son spent nearly forty quid in Valorant a few weeks ago on a skin for his fucking knife (this is a whole other conversation and no, I'm not happy about it), but he was saving up for a skin and it made him happy. People want to throw money at stuff I will never understand, but I think I'm the minority now.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:56:56 GMT
Tomo My thoughts exactly - Capcom had 48 hours' worth of positive headlines regarding DD2, then turned the narrative on its head all by themselves. So unnecessary.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:59:08 GMT
In happier news, my copy is on its way and should arrive today, all being well! This is one of those situations in which Royal Mail would've been preferable to Amazon Logistics - they usually deliver before lunch, whereas Amazon can show up at any point before 22:00. Here's hoping it'll get here sooner rather than later. |
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Post by Tuffty on Mar 22, 2024 10:01:11 GMT
I'm not surprised when previous Capcom games in the last number of years have done this practice of introducing mtx after the game is out including GOTY candidate Resident Evil 4 and yes, DD1. Its entirely pointless but Capcom wouldn't be doing this if they weren't getting some amount of revenue from lazy/bad players from the past decade or so to consider it worthwhile. I'll say it again, if you pay these microtransactions, you're lazy
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Post by Tomo on Mar 22, 2024 10:01:18 GMT
I mainly feel sorry for quaddy at this point because he is clearly bursting at the seams with excitement, so I'm going to bow out, and hopefully the chat about Pawns and Bishops being thrown into the sun by Griffins can commence.
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Post by Reviewer on Mar 22, 2024 10:02:08 GMT
The micro transactions makes them a lot more money, people keep coming back for more and they will in the next games they make. While a lot of people hate them there are enough people that throw their money at these things.
It's nice to think a company should be nice and not do it but they are there to make as much money as they can and if people pay then they'll do it. Most of the most successful (financially) games have it as a massive component of the game so I can see why they do it.
As long as it doesn't impact the core game then it doesn't bother me much. If the game has a built in grind then I'm never going to get past that as I'm not someone that can ever play one game for more than 20 hours or so - I can't think of one that's interesting enough to sustain that. Story is the only thing that keeps me around for that long and few are good enough.
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Post by neems on Mar 22, 2024 10:07:57 GMT
Excuse me no, I'm sorry but you all have to stop until next Friday when I have been paid. Stop it. Uninstall it and stop. Uninstalled. Should I delete my save file as well? |
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Post by hicksy on Mar 22, 2024 10:09:43 GMT
The MTX news is definitely frustrating (especially the chosen release time dampening things somewhat) but it’s no deal breaker.
Cheats will always cheat so might as well let them pay for the privilege!
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 22, 2024 10:11:55 GMT
You say you hate microtransactions but you've spent a few posts downplaying them (and Capcom's implementation of them)? . My issue has been why is it an issue for this game specifically when Capcom have had micro transactions in ALL of their games for well over 10 years and while there was some dissent over DMC5, I don't remember any furore for the Resi Remakes being stuffed with them. I don't particularly like them but there's nothing in Capcom's which negatively affect the game experience unlike Ubisoft's in the AC games which have actively slowed progression. Come on man - "Everything is easily attainable", "Capcom have been doing this for ten years or so", "Things for purchase are innocuous at best" and "If this game ran smoothly nobody would give a shit". People have complained microtransactions in general since Elder Scrolls IV and I remember people complaining about them for RE4 Remake on this very forum. I think my general point is I don't think implementation should even enter the conversation - if you're charging full price for a game it's a dick move to have any sort of microtransactions. Unfortunately I also know it's an antiquated opinion and you can't put the genie back in the bottle - it's part of modern gaming now. |
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Post by Whizzo on Mar 22, 2024 10:17:11 GMT
What I find a bit weird is that the microtransactions is that they were in the review guidelines that were given to publications so it wasn't a secret Capcom was keeping away to help the scoring but clearly some people completely ignore guidelines.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 10:23:09 GMT
I don't think I have at all. My issue has been why is it an issue for this game specifically when Capcom have had micro transactions in ALL of their games for well over 10 years and while there was some dissent over DMC5, I don't remember any furore for the Resi Remakes being stuffed with them. I don't particularly like them but there's nothing in Capcom's which negatively affect the game experience unlike Ubisoft's in the AC games which have actively slowed progression. Come on man - "Everything is easily attainable", "Capcom have been doing this for ten years or so", "Things for purchase are innocuous at best" and "If this game ran smoothly nobody would give a shit". People have complained microtransactions in general since Elder Scrolls IV and I remember people complaining about them for RE4 Remake on this very forum. I think my general point is I don't think implementation should even enter the conversation - if you're charging full price for a game it's a dick move to have any sort of microtransactions. To answer your quoting I was referring first to the disinformation about what the MTX was for, I'm not supporting them but I am saying they're less egregious as some other games and I still maintain that if the game ran super well you would hear some disquiet about them but not as much as it is now, Steam reviews are a strange organism in themself. It's a dick move but why do Capcom and other companies still have them in their games? Because people keep buying them for some fucking reason that I don't understand. Just like people pay upto 30 quid extra to play games a week early, some on this very forum and they justified it in their head which is fine. I repeat, I don't like them, but like Wunty I just ignore them and have been doing quite easily for many years. I acknowledge that there are some game where the MTX are fucking egregious like EA and Ubisoft and there are some that aren't. Further to your point I don't remember many people on this forum being all upset about the MTX there in Resi 4, maybe one person did but I don't remember it being the same as this game. I don't really want to disrail this thread any further but let's be honest they're not leaving the industry anytime soon are they? I dunno, vote with your wallet I guess. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 22, 2024 10:24:48 GMT
Nah you're right about MTX in general - they aren't going anywhere so I'm only doing my own head in by getting upset over something I'll ignore anyway. Think someone pissed in my cornflakes this morning.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 10:26:15 GMT
Nah you're right about MTX in general - they aren't going anywhere so I'm only doing my own head in by getting upset over something I'll ignore anyway. Think someone pissed in my cornflakes this morning. Glol. Rancid milk flavour or the orange juice that the milkman used to deliver with your milk back in the day? |
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Post by gibroon on Mar 22, 2024 10:30:50 GMT
The vote with your wallet is the only thing you can do. This, however, is exactly why MTX are still about. For 95% of gamers, they will be ignored but that other 5% is for the whales who just can't help themselves, maybe it's just bragging rights to friends at breaktime at work or just convenience, fuck knows but they exist. Companies know this and just can't help themselves by sticking in a few "convenience items" for the whales.
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Post by kingbambino on Mar 22, 2024 10:34:14 GMT
Soooo… is anyone actually playing it!?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 10:35:34 GMT
Tonight. After work. Bleurgh.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 22, 2024 10:36:00 GMT
What I'm reading is you can't have more than one character and can't change anything without a MTX purchase?
Wut?
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Post by gibroon on Mar 22, 2024 10:36:44 GMT
Nah, shit frame rate and MTX. I'm out.
/waits for update
/waits for price drop so I can buy fast travel.
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Post by Gruf on Mar 22, 2024 10:37:03 GMT
Soooo… is anyone actually playing it!? I wish. What is the big WhooHaa about MTX, its a single player game, who gives a fudge, angry internet loons must be angry |
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Post by dfunked on Mar 22, 2024 10:38:09 GMT
The best thing about Currys is that they use DPD, so you don't have any of that vague "before 10pm I guess... Lol I dunno!" nonsense that Amazon pulls.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 10:38:39 GMT
What I'm reading is you can't have more than one character and can't change anything without a MTX purchase? Wut? There's only save file yes. The second part is not true, you do that with in-game money. You can pay if you actively don't want to actually play the game and are lazy. |
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Post by neems on Mar 22, 2024 10:39:33 GMT
You can change appearance with an in-game item, although it costs 500 rift crystals and you need a second one if you want to change your pawn. I believe the cost in gold is significant as well (although for the record, it costs 1000G to spend the night at an inn. 1000 fucking G! Fie sir! I say FIE!)
You can change vocation pretty easily, stats change automatically depending on vocation.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 22, 2024 10:40:37 GMT
What I'm reading is you can't have more than one character and can't change anything without a MTX purchase? Wut? There's only save file yes. The second part is not true, you do that with in-game money. You can pay if you actively don't want to actually play the game and are lazy. roger |
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 22, 2024 10:43:06 GMT
Gonna stick with H:FW for now and get this later I think. Will cotinue reading for user stories :-)
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Post by Frog on Mar 22, 2024 10:44:10 GMT
Get a feeling that 1000g for an inn will be insignificant quite quickly. I was a bit taken aback when I saw it at the start too.
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Post by robthehermit on Mar 22, 2024 10:59:00 GMT
Wolves are not to be fucked with.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 11:01:49 GMT
Wolves are not to be fucked with.
I hear they hunt in packs.
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Post by Danno on Mar 22, 2024 11:04:58 GMT
Soooo… is anyone actually playing it!? They better fucking not be. |
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Post by neems on Mar 22, 2024 11:11:48 GMT
I was fighting an airborne enemy at night, which is awkward but not especially problematic... except that my primary Pawn, Paulinha the tiny but ever-so-slightly psychotic (and apparently Cockney, for some reason) mage decided to yeet herself off a cliff. She was most embarrassed upon being resurrected, and has promised to apply herself better.
It's definitely Dragon's Dogma. I can't even begin to imagine the cliffs that Quaddy will map in his own unique way.
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Post by AccidentProne on Mar 22, 2024 11:15:25 GMT
Only had time to go through the intro section before work this morning. Was worried about frame rates right off the bat as it got quite jumpy in the very first scene, but doesn't seem too bad outside of that so far (Series X). Was some awful colour banding in the first scene too, worst I've seen it on my C2. Don't know if it's my settings, but not noticed it since, so can probably live with it. For some reason once the intro finished I thought I'd see if the water was any safer than the first game... it wasn't! Probably should have realised after witnessing Rook's fate... |
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