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Post by Gruf on Mar 22, 2024 9:12:01 GMT
Loaded up the main screen this morning, it pained me to turn it off and head into work  |
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Post by robthehermit on Mar 22, 2024 9:12:46 GMT
I'm sure my Xbox X might be dying. The last few months the fan is so loud I can hear it over my headphones, really puts me off playing the poxy thing, should have bought this on ps5 Mines the same. This and Cyberpunk make it sound like a jet engine. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Mar 22, 2024 9:17:46 GMT
Seems Reddit is losing it's mind that the game has micro transactions. Like all Capcom games for the last ten years or so. What's the difference now? BG3, basically. |
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Post by Tomo on Mar 22, 2024 9:18:09 GMT
I see it's at mostly negative reviews on Steam due to the volume of microtransactions. But reading them all just reminds me of everyone freaking out about mtx in DMC5 when they were the most worthless transactions ever, not at all game breaking as getting orbs in the game is so trivial. Could even get a higher rate of orbs for free when using Dantes hat. Vote with your wallet I guess, but I'd also highly suggest reading up on on bad it is and from impressions, everything on the list of transactions are all easily attainable in game. The transactions are there for the laziest people. Apparently you can't reroll your character unless you buy one of the content packs. Which if true, is very smelly. Stealthing out the content packs like this is enough to put me off tbh even if most of them are pretty benign. Think I'll wait for the dust to settle and a few patches to performance. |
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Post by neems on Mar 22, 2024 9:20:14 GMT
Loaded up the main screen this morning, it pained me to turn it off and head into work I am both blessed and cursed to be working from home. I could play it any time I want...maybe I'll take a mid morning break? I'm sure I can put it down after... |
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 22, 2024 9:22:16 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:22:42 GMT
I see it's at mostly negative reviews on Steam due to the volume of microtransactions. But reading them all just reminds me of everyone freaking out about mtx in DMC5 when they were the most worthless transactions ever, not at all game breaking as getting orbs in the game is so trivial. Could even get a higher rate of orbs for free when using Dantes hat. Vote with your wallet I guess, but I'd also highly suggest reading up on on bad it is and from impressions, everything on the list of transactions are all easily attainable in game. The transactions are there for the laziest people. Apparently you can't reroll your character unless you buy one of the content packs. Which if true, is very smelly. Stealthing out the content packs like this is enough to put me off tbh even if most of them are pretty benign. Think I'll wait for the dust to settle and a few patches to performance. No I read about that and it's pure misinformation. Everything available for purchase in real money is easily attainable, nothing is locked behind mtx and I'm someone who hates them. |
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:24:11 GMT
Sneaking them out between the lifting of the review embargo and launch is pretty scummy in my opinion.
Still psyched for the game, and can't wait to dive in, but Capcom really should be above such shenanigans.
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Post by richardiox on Mar 22, 2024 9:24:26 GMT
Seems Reddit is losing it's mind that the game has micro transactions. Like all Capcom games for the last ten years or so. What's the difference now? That they didn't switch them on until after reviews were out and that they apply them to functional things such fast travel as opposed to legit extra content? |
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Post by neems on Mar 22, 2024 9:24:31 GMT
I see it's at mostly negative reviews on Steam due to the volume of microtransactions. But reading them all just reminds me of everyone freaking out about mtx in DMC5 when they were the most worthless transactions ever, not at all game breaking as getting orbs in the game is so trivial. Could even get a higher rate of orbs for free when using Dantes hat. Vote with your wallet I guess, but I'd also highly suggest reading up on on bad it is and from impressions, everything on the list of transactions are all easily attainable in game. The transactions are there for the laziest people. Apparently you can't reroll your character unless you buy one of the content packs. Which if true, is very smelly. Stealthing out the content packs like this is enough to put me off tbh even if most of them are pretty benign. Think I'll wait for the dust to settle and a few patches to performance. There is an item you can buy from a vendor that allows you to change your appearance. Re-rolling stats isn't really a thing as far as I know. I decided that changing my appearance would be my initial major personal quest, as Barda looks half-witted in close-up. She's starting to grow on me though. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:25:44 GMT
Seems Reddit is losing it's mind that the game has micro transactions. Like all Capcom games for the last ten years or so. What's the difference now? BG3, basically. I do feel sorry for Larian that they have been put up on a pedestal like people did with CDPR back in the day and again people will revolt when they do something someone on the internet doesn't like. |
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:28:00 GMT
As long as Larian doesn't hype their next game for a decade or so, then release it as a broken mess, they'll be fine  |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:29:13 GMT
Seems Reddit is losing it's mind that the game has micro transactions. Like all Capcom games for the last ten years or so. What's the difference now? That they didn't switch them on until after reviews were out and that they apply them to functional things such fast travel as opposed to legit extra content? Yeah but as far as I know pretty much all games with mtx are turned off for review. And the things for purchase are innocuous at best, there were micro transactions in the original DD. There are micro transactions in all the Resi Remakes. |
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 22, 2024 9:29:45 GMT
It's just shit. You pay full whack for a game and there's still further opportunity to charge you more.
"You don't have to buy it!" - Fair enough and it's true but let's also not pretend that a lot of these games don't artificially inflate the grind to push you towards buying things instead of 'earning' them.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:31:32 GMT
Sneaking them out between the lifting of the review embargo and launch is pretty scummy in my opinion.
Still psyched for the game, and can't wait to dive in, but Capcom really should be above such shenanigans.
Capcom has had micro transactions for well over a decade. They're not above this stuff at all. People still love their games. |
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Post by Tomo on Mar 22, 2024 9:32:29 GMT
Sneaking them out between the lifting of the review embargo and launch is pretty scummy in my opinion.
Still psyched for the game, and can't wait to dive in, but Capcom really should be above such shenanigans.
One of the reviewers did say the DLC was described in the PR review notes, but yeah, it doesn't scream consumer transparency, which I think is what a lot of this boils down to. |
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Post by monkman5000 on Mar 22, 2024 9:35:13 GMT
Seems Reddit is losing it's mind that the game has micro transactions. Like all Capcom games for the last ten years or so. What's the difference now? That they didn't switch them on until after reviews were out and that they apply them to functional things such fast travel as opposed to legit extra content? That's pretty bad if true. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:35:46 GMT
I suspect that if this game ran super smooth with none of the performance issues that it currently has you wouldn't hear shit about the mtx.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:38:39 GMT
Capcom has had micro transactions for well over a decade. They're not above this stuff at all. People still love their games.
I know they're not, but I still think they should be. They're not exactly struggling for cash, insofar as I'm aware, and they have more goodwill in the bank than most AAA developers/publishers do nowadays - is a bit more microtransaction money really worth* the negative headlines generated by this kind of shit?
* I mean, I guess we can answer this in the affirmative, 'cause they keep doing it... but I'm not keen on such behaviour  |
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Post by rhaegyr on Mar 22, 2024 9:38:57 GMT
You say you hate microtransactions but you've spent a few posts downplaying them (and Capcom's implementation of them)?
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Post by Tomo on Mar 22, 2024 9:39:20 GMT
Nah if there's one thing that riles the internet it's mtx. Unless launch performance is like Cyberpunk PS4 unplayable, I don't think it tends to result in Steam review bombing.
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:41:35 GMT
One of the reviewers did say the DLC was described in the PR review notes, but yeah, it doesn't scream consumer transparency, which I think is what a lot of this boils down to.
That's interesting - I was going to comment that if publishers plan to switch on MTX between reviews and launch, they need to include all that information in the fact sheet they send to reviewers (what can be bought with real money; how much it'll cost; etc.).
If it turns out that they actually did this with DD2, I'll be slightly less peeved than I am now.
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Post by Danno on Mar 22, 2024 9:43:04 GMT
Excuse me no, I'm sorry but you all have to stop until next Friday when I have been paid.
Stop it. Uninstall it and stop.
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Post by Tomo on Mar 22, 2024 9:43:43 GMT
One of the reviewers did say the DLC was described in the PR review notes, but yeah, it doesn't scream consumer transparency, which I think is what a lot of this boils down to.
That's interesting - I was going to comment that if publishers plan to switch on MTX between reviews and launch, they need to include all that information in the fact sheet they send to reviewers (what can be bought with real money; how much it'll cost; etc.).
If it turns out that they actually did this with DD2, I'll be slightly less peeved than I am now.
Scroll down to editors note. Interesting insight into spoilers in PR notes too. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:43:53 GMT
You say you hate microtransactions but you've spent a few posts downplaying them (and Capcom's implementation of them)? I don't think I have at all. My issue has been why is it an issue for this game specifically when Capcom have had micro transactions in ALL of their games for well over 10 years and while there was some dissent over DMC5, I don't remember any furore for the Resi Remakes being stuffed with them. I don't particularly like them but there's nothing in Capcom's which negatively affect the game experience unlike Ubisoft's in the AC games which have actively slowed progression. |
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Post by Ulythium on Mar 22, 2024 9:46:55 GMT
I was more bummed out about DMC5 giving me a Gold Orb each day as a "login bonus" than I was about them selling Red Orbs for real money.
Not that I liked the latter in any way, but the former made it feel more like a mobile game/GAAS than was necessary.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Mar 22, 2024 9:47:04 GMT
Don't get me started on Diablo 4 and it's MTX. Now THAT is some bullshit, laughed when I saw it costs 30 quid to change the colour of your warp portal.
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Tomo
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Post by Tomo on Mar 22, 2024 9:53:59 GMT
I think the unexpectedly positive reviews may have amplified the review bombing. Feels like the internet was primed to jump onboard and then Capcom somewhat shot themselves in the foot.
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Post by sport✅ on Mar 22, 2024 9:54:49 GMT
Jambo No. 5? More like Kotick No. 5!!!!
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 22, 2024 9:55:16 GMT
People hate MTX regardless. Most people can ignore them and has been said, Capcom have had them before in other games so it's not some new thing.
Is the issue purely because none of the reviews, previews and any of the footage seen so far has revealed them and then suddenly, ta-da, here they are. ?
While I can ignore any MTX, do not give any fucks. It does feel a bit 'bait and switch', like they were hiding them. I dunno, maybe prices were not finalised but if they had been visible all along then I don't think this would be a 'thing'. However, as far as the frothing internet mob are concerned this was the least best choice Capcom could have made.
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