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Post by dfunked on Aug 8, 2024 10:15:53 GMT
Hot take on a forum favourite incoming... Brace yourselves!
Spaced S1 - 6.5/10
Spaced S2 - 6/10
It's just not very good. Sorry!
I can definitely see how it would've appealed back in the day, as it does capture the zeitgeist quite well (wankiest sentence of the week award!). Perhaps if I'd watched more than a couple of episodes back then I might've had more of an attachment to it.
Without that rose tinted attachment to the show, I just didn't find it all that entertaining. The timing of jokes just felt embarrassingly awkward, and fell flat more often than not. The constant nods to (mainly 80s) films and pop culture just started to grate after a while.
It probably didn't help that I don't particularly like Pegg.
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Post by rhaegyr on Aug 8, 2024 10:19:45 GMT
Hot take on a forum favourite incoming... Brace yourselves! Spaced S1 - 6.5/10 Spaced S2 - 6/10 It's just not very good. Sorry! I can definitely see how it would've appealed back in the day, as it does capture the zeitgeist quite well (wankiest sentence of the week award!). Perhaps if I'd watched more than a couple of episodes back then I might've had more of an attachment to it. Without that rose tinted attachment to the show, I just didn't find it all that entertaining. The timing of jokes just felt embarrassingly awkward, and fell flat more often than not. The constant nods to (mainly 80s) films and pop culture just started to grate after a while. It probably didn't help that I don't particularly like Pegg. Completely agree. I love Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead but didn't watch this at the time and thought it'd be right up my street. It wasn't. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Aug 8, 2024 10:29:34 GMT
I very much loved Space at the time, and my uni housemates and I rewatched it regularly.
Of all the alternative comedy shows I watched at or just before uni it's probably the one I enjoyed the most. That or Nathan Barley. But I do wonder how well it would hold up if I watched it now.
I think I'd probably still like it.
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Post by simple on Aug 8, 2024 10:43:42 GMT
I still rewatch it at some point most years. I was in my late teens when it debuted so that and League of Gentlemen both starting in the same year had a pretty huge influence on me and my friends.
It still all works for me. Apart from the Matrix episode which is a bit too on the nose.
Tim calling Vulva a big fat tranny hasn’t aged well either. I know the joke was always supposed to be highlighting Tim’s ignorance but given he’s the hero and Vulva is the villain I’m not sure it’ll come across that way to everyone.
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Post by dfunked on Aug 8, 2024 10:46:34 GMT
Yeah, the "are you gay?" bit was quite jarring too. Different times.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Aug 8, 2024 10:51:36 GMT
Yeah there's a few jokes that do feel off but they're infrequent, and definitely of the time. Think most 20 year old comedy shows still have bits that wouldn't sit well today.
The second series wasn't quite as good either. All my favourite bits are in the first series.
I've managed to make myself feel old by realising it's over 20 years old.
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Post by dfunked on Aug 8, 2024 10:56:43 GMT
It's actually 25 years since the first episode aired next month if that helps  |
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Post by Nemesis on Aug 8, 2024 11:02:10 GMT
You are so blind!
You so do not understand!
You weren't there at the beginning!
You don't know how good it was, how important!
This is it for you!
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Post by rawshark on Aug 8, 2024 11:06:00 GMT
It’s very of its time. Unfortunately if anything from then had a modicum of edge you really have to grit your teeth through certain parts. I’m finding the same with old South Park and Family Guy repeats, too.
The slow-mo fight still rocks.
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Post by simple on Aug 8, 2024 11:15:54 GMT
I think for its age its generally aged well in that respect. There is a lot more “you couldn’t get away with that nowadays” in almost all of its contemporaries - especially League of Gentlemen, but Adam & Joe too.
And for the most part those moments are directed at Tim or Daisy rather than them being mean about someone else.
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Post by cubby on Aug 8, 2024 11:20:49 GMT
I can't watch Spaced objectively at all. I watched it a couple of years back and realised I knew all the lines *everyone* was going to say and had to stop myself from being that annoying guy who whispers all the lines while everyone is trying to watch.
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Post by rawshark on Aug 8, 2024 11:22:24 GMT
Lest we forget Nick Frost drops a N bomb is Shaun of the Dead. I think everyone involved would be happy for that to be deleted from every copy of the film.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Aug 8, 2024 11:24:07 GMT
Jessica Hynes has aged extremely well.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 8, 2024 11:24:33 GMT
Still gets a regular rewatch here. I think it still holds up well and hits the right notes for me. It's a bit smug and some jokes haven't aged terribly well but by and large, it's ace.
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Post by rawshark on Aug 8, 2024 12:27:25 GMT
I was thinking about that episode of Friends the other day where Ross objects to having a male nanny (Freddie Prinze Junior in what I can only assume was his final role before retirement).
My son’s main carer at nursery is male and there are quite a few male staff there, and that episode happened to come on Comedy Central while I was working. I kind of remember laughing along to it at the time, but now the overall feeling was how it was so weird people used to feel that way.
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Post by simple on Aug 8, 2024 12:32:18 GMT
Lest we forget Nick Frost drops a N bomb is Shaun of the Dead. I think everyone involved would be happy for that to be deleted from every copy of the film. That’s another where the joke is obviously “Ed’s a twat” but you’d never include it now. Same with “Alright… gay” being about men in the 00s thinking expressing your feelings is gay and looking like dickheads because of it. Although I think the one that’s in Spaced and Shaun “he’s not my boyfriend” was just something from their real lives - Simon and Nick used to top and tail while flatsharing for a bit. You probably don’t want to sit a Gen Zer down and explain the housing situation of 90s comic actors for every joke now though. (The other person in that flat was Michael Smiley who was a DJ, stand-up, cycle courier and essentially was Tyres at the time) |
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Post by rhaegyr on Aug 8, 2024 12:33:05 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if you still get people who feel that way. In all fairness the episode makes it clear that Ross and his oudated attitude are the problem. Everyone else loves Sandy! Edit @ rawshark |
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Post by Garfy on Aug 8, 2024 14:04:30 GMT
oooo Final series of The Umbrella Academy has dropped.
I know what I'm watching next
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Post by harrypalmer on Aug 8, 2024 14:51:30 GMT
The Wire - S2 - 8/10
Not as good as S1, mainly because it does feel a bit more formulaic - getting the team back together to investigate a completely separate (OR IS IT?) situation. But it's still A grade police procedural. It's so well put together and the characters are wonderful. It's rare these days to have characters that you enjoy spending time with to this degree. Frank Sobotka was great.
How To With John Wilson - S3 - 8/10
I think it's run its course, but there are still some truly great and surprising episodes. Think it's all on iplayer now too.
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Post by wunty on Aug 8, 2024 15:02:12 GMT
Re: Spaced
I absolutely loved it back when it first aired (and rewatching on DVD into the early 2000s) but it definitely wouldn't hit the same notes watching it for the first time now. It was very much a thing of it's time and personally I'd rather it just remained in my warm fuzzy memories along with some other classics of that era. I still have Spaced lines going around in my head on any given day and sometimes, when I close my eyes, Mike's there, in a club, doing the A-Team dance.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 8, 2024 15:08:01 GMT
harrypalmer Frank and Ziggy absolutely rock in that season. It's got so much heart.
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Post by zisssou on Aug 8, 2024 15:15:31 GMT
The Wire - S2 - 8/10Not as good as S1, mainly because it does feel a bit more formulaic - getting the team back together to investigate a completely separate (OR IS IT?) situation. But it's still A grade police procedural. It's so well put together and the characters are wonderful. It's rare these days to have characters that you enjoy spending time with to this degree. Frank Sobotka was great. How To With John Wilson - S3 - 8/10I think it's run its course, but there are still some truly great and surprising episodes. Think it's all on iplayer now too. You're watching some top tier TV there. |
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Post by zisssou on Aug 8, 2024 15:17:41 GMT
Now I'm thinking should I re-watch The Wire or Deadwood..
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Post by Nemesis on Aug 8, 2024 16:39:21 GMT
Can I get. Any of you cunts. A drink?
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Post by simple on Aug 8, 2024 17:02:54 GMT
If you’re interest in Spaced and Shaun I can recommend the book You’ve Got Red On You by Clark Collins. It covers short biographies of Pegg and Wright, a brief but detailed history of Spaced and the key players there then an exhaustive look at Shaun from production, content and reception points of views. Interviews with everyone involved and celebrity fans like Greg Nicotero and Tarantino.
The pre-Shaun stuff even has stuff in it that was new to me despite so many years of being into Spaced etc.
Having read the (excellent) GamesMaster book not so long ago its fun seeing the other side of the Pegg/Diamond student history included in this.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 8, 2024 17:15:18 GMT
Been meaning to rewatch The Wire pretty much since I finished watching it for the first time a few years back. Can't say I would use the term formulaic to describe any of it though.
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Post by harrypalmer on Aug 8, 2024 21:23:21 GMT
From the two seasons I’ve watched so far, it does straddle typical procedural police format and prestige tv, and I think I was a bit surprised at how season 2 was literally get the band back together and solve another case. But thats not really a criticism, it just wasn’t as good as season 1. It’s the pinnacle of that kind of thing and I fully expect it to get even better. I’ve read the books that it’s based on and watched a fair amount of Homicide so it’s possible it’s impact is slightly lessened for me.
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Post by richardiox on Aug 8, 2024 22:28:10 GMT
Season Two is also pretty widely accepted as being the worst one.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 8, 2024 22:32:39 GMT
Much like The Sopranos though, it was pretty seminal, especially for a police show. What stands it out is the character development over many seasons. That's de rigeur these days but was very rare back then.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 8, 2024 22:33:13 GMT
Season Two is also pretty widely accepted as being the worst one. Nah, not for me. |
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