nazo
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Post by nazo on Jun 29, 2024 9:56:27 GMT
Shōgun (D+)
Outstanding. It's not often I get enthusiastic about TV nowadays, or pretty much anything really, but they absolutely nailed this. It feels like a proper Japanese historical drama but with a budget to elevate it beyond the usual TV fare. It beautifully shot and the cast is excellent, in particular Anna Sawai as Mariko Toda whose scenes with Blackthorne absolutely sizzle.
Although there are occasional outbreaks of fairly brutal violence, it's mostly focussed on the relationships and political maneuverings of the key characters and as such it's not particularly fast-paced and probably not for the impatient but I was absolutely enthralled by the whole thing from start to finish.
10/10
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jul 2, 2024 15:20:36 GMT
Shogun
Didn't like it quite as much as much Nazo above, but very good show.
Good historical-based fiction wit great performances (even though I simply can't stop myself thinking of Cosmo Jarvis as Wish-Tom Hardy. Which is unfair as he's actually pretty good in his role), and the setting makes it feel very different compared to most historical fiction series.
The main thing I like in historical fiction is the scheming and machinations, and that had a lot of that so I'm happy.
8/10
Total aside note, but reading about Hiroyuki Sanada's career, I've just realised I saw him play The Fool in King Lear, where Nigel Hawthorne played Lear. Was studying A-Level English at the time. I've seen Sanada in quite a few films now and he's usually pretty great, just hadn't realised I'd seen him in a play 20 odd years ago.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Jul 2, 2024 21:21:02 GMT
The Bear S3 - 7/10
Disappointed me a little, but largely due to the high standards set in S2 in particular. Some great cameos as always, but it was lacking the magic of the self-contained episodes we've seen previously, with only Napkins coming close, and Ice Chips being a big swing and a miss in my eyes. Episode 1 was a manic way to do a recap - definitely wish I'd rewatched the final episode of S2 first. Overall it felt like a literal appetiser for S4, which to the show's credit can't come soon enough.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 4, 2024 16:17:03 GMT
The Leftovers S2 - 8/10 It started to lose me a bit when it got to the hotel with the excessively dramatic music. Still mostly excellent stuff apart from that one iffy episode. Can't really fault the cast at all. Hell, even Qualley's character has grown on me now.
It has to be a case of the worst change to an opening credit sequence in the history of TV. I'm normally pretty lenient when it comes to the skip intro button, but reach for it asap here.
One Day - 7/10 An entertaining enough cockblocked romance spanning many years. Some great era appropriate music along the way and solid performances from the leads. Not really my usual cuppa, but I quite enjoyed it.
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Post by muddyfunster on Jul 8, 2024 9:55:54 GMT
The Bear S3 - 7/10 Disappointed me a little, but largely due to the high standards set in S2 in particular. Some great cameos as always, but it was lacking the magic of the self-contained episodes we've seen previously, with only Napkins coming close, and Ice Chips being a big swing and a miss in my eyes. Episode 1 was a manic way to do a recap - definitely wish I'd rewatched the final episode of S2 first. Overall it felt like a literal appetiser for S4, which to the show's credit can't come soon enough. Agreed though it's an overall 8/10 for me (where previous series were 10/10). Thought the first episode was outstanding and the last episode very good too, but rest of the series was below the usual standard. It's still excellent TV but it all felt a little thin compared to previous series. As if they know what people like about the Bear and made sure they had plenty of snappy lines, shouting, arty food shots and extremely specific chef chat, but didn't have the character arcs planned properly. There wasn't a great deal of character development this time around (I actually quite liked Ice Chips for this reason). The Faks are hilarious, but they also felt overused as a relatively one note replacement for actual narrative. Felt like whenever the writers needed a bridge between scenes, in come the Faks for some more idiocy. Apparently S4 was green lit before S3 was started so I do wonder if we've basically seen half a season of ideas stretched out. Wonder if they need more writers or more time to regain that previous quality.
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MolarAm🔵
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jul 8, 2024 9:59:53 GMT
I believe the series creator of The Bear had a set plan for, say, 3 seasons worth of story. But then the producers saw how popular it was and asked for another one. So I think that's why it maybe feels a bit stretched out.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jul 8, 2024 11:08:28 GMT
The Leftovers S2 - 8/10 It started to lose me a bit when it got to the hotel with the excessively dramatic music. Still mostly excellent stuff apart from that one iffy episode. Can't really fault the cast at all. Hell, even Qualley's character has grown on me now. It has to be a case of the worst change to an opening credit sequence in the history of TV. I'm normally pretty lenient when it comes to the skip intro button, but reach for it asap here. One Day - 7/10 An entertaining enough cockblocked romance spanning many years. Some great era appropriate music along the way and solid performances from the leads. Not really my usual cuppa, but I quite enjoyed it. Worst take of the show I've seen. Infinitely better music than the maudlin S1 intro. The photographs with missing people are a massive step up too. I love it it, great juxtaposition with the tone of the show.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 8, 2024 11:18:44 GMT
Haha, give me maudlin over that song any day! S1 felt like it fitted the show much better than that plucky little number. The visuals just feel like someone loaded up their Shutterstock account, grabbed some random pics and started mucking about in Photoshop.
Not that the first season's intro was especially good in the first place mind you, I just preferred it.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jul 8, 2024 11:37:47 GMT
Hah, fair play.
I love the pictures - they're so 'normal'. It really drove home how what happened affected regular people, families and communities so much. It honestly makes me tear up a little each time I see it.
It'll be interesting to see what you think of the S3 intro!
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Post by dfunked on Jul 8, 2024 11:43:11 GMT
I've watched a couple of episodes of S3 and yeah there was a bit of a WTF moment at the music choice. Now that REALLY didn't fit with the show! (although if you dig deeper it really does)
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Post by Reviewer on Jul 9, 2024 7:32:04 GMT
The Bear S3 6/10
So much of it was just boring. The birth episode was terrible, the last episode was poor. The one of the woman getting the job went nowhere. I loved the first two seasons but this just wasn't good at all.
Still, the person choosing the music seems to have access to my music library.
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Post by apollo on Jul 13, 2024 15:14:04 GMT
The Orville season 3
2nd rewatch and its shame the show didn't get season 4 as its still in Limbo. It only got 10 episodes for s3 and sure episode got cut as feels like a big part of the story got cut as they suddenly turned the time travel device into a powerful weapon to end the war the whole moclan, krill and kaylon conflict could of been 2 seasons of no padding
9/10
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Post by Mark1412 on Jul 14, 2024 8:10:49 GMT
The Bear S3 6/10 So much of it was just boring. The birth episode was terrible, the last episode was poor. The one of the woman getting the job went nowhere. I loved the first two seasons but this just wasn't good at all. Still, the person choosing the music seems to have access to my music library. This is where I've landed with it. It's either disappeared up its own arse or, more charitably and as others have mentioned, it's stalling the actual story to make some more money. The standalone episodes were particularly bad after the really great ones last time. Agree with the comments about zero character development above, too. Chalking that one up as a big disappointment. Shot as beautifully as ever though.
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Post by elstoof on Jul 14, 2024 8:28:35 GMT
Big Door Prize S2, found it’s feet after a slow first season and a solid 8 for me if it didn’t end on a cliffhanger before getting axed
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Post by dfunked on Jul 14, 2024 8:33:08 GMT
The Leftovers S3 - 9/10 (9/10 overall for the show too)
Well that was bloody good! It had the same issue as the previous season with one of the episodes just being a massive load of bollocks IMO, but it didn't drag the rest of it down. It wraps most of the character arcs up pretty well by the penultimate episode, then gives you a lengthy final episode to just focus on the two main characters. From the start it always seems to open up new questions for everything it answers, and even up to the end left a lot open to interpretation. That might annoy some, but I absolutely loved it.
Cracking performances all around. Ecclestone especially feels like he finally got a chance to shine in S3. Coon and Theroux are just perfect at playing broken people barely holding on.
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Post by simple on Jul 18, 2024 19:28:50 GMT
The Bear season 3 Lots of elements I enjoy and most of what made the first two season incredible are still present. But as others have said, the whole season is all middle and vignettes without ever really moving forward. It feels like it relies a bit much on flashbacks too. Highlights for me Cena and Poulter, pretty much anything Matty Matheson is involved in, and the M Bison moment in final episode was nice if unintentional. Probably a 7/10 overall, not sure there’s anything super memorable even if ifs all perfect fine in the moment.
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Post by Tomo on Jul 18, 2024 22:40:25 GMT
The Virtues - All4 - 10/10
Shane Meadows series from 5 years back starring Stephen Graham as an estranged father with... issues, to put it mildly.
The final episode is astonishing in particular. Yeesh.
Shane Meadows is absolutely god-tier in everything he does. This is easily equal with his best.
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Post by Dougs on Jul 19, 2024 7:06:59 GMT
I've been meaning to pluck up the courage for that. Love Meadows but got to be in the right mood.
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Post by Tomo on Jul 19, 2024 7:53:56 GMT
Yeah it took me a couple of months to get through 4 episodes ha. Not exactly post-work decompression viewing.
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Post by dfunked on Jul 19, 2024 7:57:45 GMT
I've been tempted to rewatch this is England recently, but yeah you really need to gear yourself up for a Meadows show, especially if you know what's coming.
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Post by Tomo on Jul 19, 2024 8:02:01 GMT
For shame I've still never seen TIE. Next on my (long watch) list.
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Post by simple on Jul 19, 2024 8:18:01 GMT
Virtues is about as dark and heavy as he gets. Brilliant but not an easy ride.
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Post by Tomo on Jul 19, 2024 8:31:54 GMT
Also... Obviously Stephen Graham acts his socks off in Virtues, but the supporting cast is absolutely amazing. And I don't just mean the immediate supporting cast - some really major characters appear very late in the show, played by complete unknowns, and they are incredible.
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Post by Tomo on Jul 19, 2024 8:48:53 GMT
I keep remembering stuff... Perhaps the best thing in the whole show:
"Youth club quality tits."
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Post by Dougs on Jul 19, 2024 15:06:38 GMT
For shame I've still never seen TIE. Next on my (long watch) list. In for a proper treat. And it's not all wall to wall bleakness, there's lots of levity and humour in there. The whole cast are just sensational.
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Post by Syrette on Jul 19, 2024 15:13:58 GMT
Shane Meadows is absolutely god-tier in everything he does. Even The Gallows Pole?
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Post by simple on Jul 19, 2024 15:57:30 GMT
I enjoyed it but it did seem a bold choice to include no content from the multi-award winning source novel and have amateurs improvise a prequel instead
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Post by dfunked on Jul 22, 2024 11:19:56 GMT
Colin from Accounts S2 - 8/10
Great stuff yet again. A decent mix of comedy and some more serious episodes towards the end of the season.
Invincible S2 - 7/10
Kind of drags on a bit and they could've easily dropped a couple of threads. Feels like they're struggling to fill 50+ minute episode runtimes, when I'd gladly just take a shorter episode. Still very watchable, though.
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Post by rawshark on Jul 22, 2024 11:33:52 GMT
On a similar theme…
The Boys S4 (Vought+ / Amazon)
Actually quite a reserved series and a departure from the… nah just kidding it’s the same puerile gory nonsense as ever.
It’s got to be the easiest show in the world to write for. They don’t even try to satirise current events, as just about everything is copy pasted from the real world into the series with very little augmentation.
I’d be lying if it didn’t make me laugh on more than a few occasions, but the law of diminishing returns is starting to bite. Remember when Mortal Kombat 3 came out and it had very little of MK2’s charm because just about every fatality ended with the same animated giblets bouncing around the screen? This reminds me a bit of that - you’re shocked the first time someone gets ripped in half but by the fourth or fifth time it’s almost become expected. And as with Invincible, episodes are starting to feel really long.
But this season does give off big penultimate vibes, so we’re going into the final lap - which does at least make it feel consequential.
7/10
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Post by Dougs on Jul 22, 2024 16:20:21 GMT
Oooh, didn't know Colin S2 was out. High seas I assume?
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