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Post by simple on Jun 23, 2022 20:49:34 GMT
Having not seen them in years I was
3 action, finally moves the plot on, resolves Anakin’s arc
1 a live action Saturday morning cartoon, Darth Maul, Duel of Fates
2 terrible CGI, terrible acting, total Hayden-fest
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Post by mothercruncher on Jun 23, 2022 20:57:36 GMT
Thoroughly bored with episodes 1-3, guess I need to keep going until at least 5. Everyone else in the house has given up.
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Post by Onny on Jun 23, 2022 21:08:08 GMT
After enjoying the final episode of Kenobi it got me in the mood for some light saber action so I started watching Star Wars episode 3. I don’t think I’ve seen it since it came out and good god it is fucking terrible. It starts off with a fairly bland space battle so I patiently waited for the fight with Dooku for it to pick up.
But my god it’s just dog shit. Not just the acting and dialog, but the actual choreography is hilariously, shockingly bad. And the editing - it keeps cutting back to Palps giving little squeals and grunts.
I can’t believe it came out the same year as Batman Begins. Christ.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 23, 2022 21:26:14 GMT
I think it might go 1, 3, 2 but, really, there’s barely a fag paper between them. The interesting thing is that they are all bad in their own unique way.
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jun 23, 2022 21:47:56 GMT
I think the Darth Maul fight in the 1st one was the only genuinely good thing in the prequel trilogy, probably because it wasn't directed by George Lucas.
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Post by geefe on Jun 23, 2022 22:24:50 GMT
I did the first 3 eps and thought they were shit. Can I just skip to 6?
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Post by H-alphaFox on Jun 24, 2022 8:45:22 GMT
The 3rd movie is the worst by a long way, we watched it before and visually it's dogs vomit. I just couldn't get past that. Seems like it would of been better as a Clone Wars season.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 24, 2022 9:35:04 GMT
I think the Darth Maul fight in the 1st one was the only genuinely good thing in the prequel trilogy, probably because it wasn't directed by George Lucas. The Anakin vs Obiwan fight in RotS was directed by Spielberg, though uncredited. |
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 24, 2022 10:49:27 GMT
I think it might go 1, 3, 2 but, really, there’s barely a fag paper between them. The interesting thing is that they are all bad in their own unique way. That’s my order too, none are good but 1 has the most new idea, some of which were good. 2 and 3 lacked that but did have some of their own positives. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 24, 2022 10:53:05 GMT
For me, one is the best because of how childlike it is. The more gravitas he tried to inject, the more unbearable it became. Two is the worst because it literally doesnt need to exist. Not only is it rubbish, you can skip it entirely and lose absolutely no plot.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 24, 2022 10:57:46 GMT
Apart from Anakin and Padme's relationship, which is pretty much central to the plot, what with his love for her and the dreams being the lever used to topple him.
Without two, they'd be a queen and a child, then suddenly married.
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Post by DJCopa on Jun 24, 2022 10:58:06 GMT
2 is just a bag of spanners - boring, dull and boring. BORING.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 24, 2022 10:59:55 GMT
I dunno. I think you could launch straight into Ep.3 and not miss all the great 'I hate sand' character building. It would probably be to its benefit, tbh. It would actually make it more believable that they were together.
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Post by clemfandango on Jun 24, 2022 11:05:23 GMT
1 > 3 > 2
1 - Is watchable and still feels like proper star wars. Its still shite though
3 - Is utter garbage but can be watched if in right frame of mind
2 - is absolute dog shit and unwatchable
I'd still watch episode 1 over 8 and 9 any day of the week.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 24, 2022 11:05:39 GMT
I dunno. I think you could launch straight into Ep.3 and not miss all the great 'I hate sand' character building. It would probably be to its benefit, tbh. It would actually make it more believable that they were together. I appreciate that the whole of that is pretty gruesome and Christensen took a lot of flak for a bad performance, when in fact he had nothing whatsoever to work with. I've softened to "I hate sand" because he's a young man who's nervous around the older woman he's insanely in love with and doesn't really know what to say, but I still think their falling for each other needed to be done or they needed to find another reason for him to fall (and for her to die). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 11:06:02 GMT
Re: Prequel Trilogy.
I maintain that - as a kids film - The Phantom Menace is great. Only when viewed in this context however. Apparently he set out to make a kids film though so... mission achieved. The other two are wank piddle though. Can't really recall much about them but I was particularly bored out my tits watching AotC.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 24, 2022 11:08:06 GMT
The insane thing about that is that it revolves around a trade dispute in the galactic senate. A kids film about a fucking trade dispute.
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Post by clemfandango on Jun 24, 2022 11:10:22 GMT
If anybody has a fancy TV, the light saber fight at the end of episode 3 looks incredible on Disney plus in 4K HDR
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 11:10:55 GMT
Yes well. Quite. There's no argument for that part of it. None.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 24, 2022 11:38:50 GMT
Replace the trade dispute with some sort of war/invasion etc and it would have achieved the same thing but without the boredom (potentially).
Or just change the whole thing.
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 24, 2022 11:53:38 GMT
The revelation Obi-Wan has in RotS that ‘Anakan is the Father, isn’t he.’
He’s not been keeping it a secret; pay attention !!
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jun 24, 2022 13:09:11 GMT
5>6>4>7>1>3>8>2>9
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Post by damagedinc on Jun 24, 2022 13:27:58 GMT
The mistake in my opinion was starting the prequels when anakin was so young.
Would give more time for the "turn"
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Post by clemfandango on Jun 24, 2022 13:39:14 GMT
The mistake in my opinion was starting the prequels when anakin was so young. Would give more time for the "turn" True, it would also make the love story a bit less noncey... |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 24, 2022 13:51:59 GMT
Its just the weirdest thing. IIRC, Portman and Christensen were more or less the same age in SW2 and 3 but Portman was playing like 4 or 5 years older than she actually is.
I dont know if they vastly overestimated how young she looked in SW1 or something but its just so odd that they didnt cast a 12 year old or something as Padme and then recast her for the rest because you just have Portman looking basically the same age over like a 15 year time period.
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Post by simple on Jun 24, 2022 13:56:21 GMT
I wonder if the thing to do to make everybody’s ages in New Hope make more sense would be to do Phantom Menace without Anakin and Padme, just young Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon discovering that the Sith are back. Then introduce Anakin when Obi-Wan is a full Jedi in the second film and then you could probably get away with condensing a lot of Attack of the Clones down and splitting it between the second and third films and still end up comfortably at the same in the narrative at the end of ROTS but without the issue of everyone needing to ages at such different rates.
Maybe?
You would end up losing Phantom Menace’s big asset of clearly being a light romp for kids (about international trade policy) though
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Post by simple on Jun 24, 2022 13:57:07 GMT
Its just the weirdest thing. IIRC, Portman and Christensen were more or less the same age in SW2 and 3 but Portman was playing like 4 or 5 years older than she actually is. I dont know if they vastly overestimated how young she looked in SW1 or something but its just so odd that they didnt cast a 12 year old or something as Padme and then recast her for the rest because you just have Portman looking basically the same age over like a 15 year time period. To be fair she still looks basically the same now |
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Post by simple on Jun 24, 2022 14:01:05 GMT
Alternatively you could maybe rewrite the canon so that Anakin and Obi-Wan were padawans together and knew each other as peers who became rivals rather than master and apprentice. That would help square a lot of things in terms of stray bits of timeline too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 14:03:05 GMT
Yuck. I realise now I hate the word padawan almost as much as youngling.
They really did fuck SW after the OT didn't they.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2022 15:44:53 GMT
For me, one is the best because of how childlike it is. The more gravitas he tried to inject, the more unbearable it became. Two is the worst because it literally doesnt need to exist. Not only is it rubbish, you can skip it entirely and lose absolutely no plot. It gives a much stronger reason Anakin turns than 3. He goes back to Tatooine to rescue his mother, she's been sold to Owen's family, setting him up as Luke's uncle for the OT, she was kidnapped and beat to death by the Tuskens, so he slaughters a whole camp site of them. compared to 3, Anakin has a nightmare, "I'll never turn to the dark side," a second later "yes, I'll do whatever you say," murder Mace Windu and children. |
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