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Post by Reviewer on Jun 23, 2022 9:53:49 GMT
Luke only ran off for space adventures after Owen and Beru were killed. He was going to stay until then as he didn’t feel he could leave them and the farm behind.
Even if he has run off, I don’t see a stretch in a teenager rebelling against gos parents and being a bit of a dick.
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Post by muddyfunster on Jun 23, 2022 10:24:35 GMT
Like many I assumed this series would be terrible and I think that mindset really helped. The Star Wars fan in me died with the prequels so I'm also not hugely fussed about inconsistencies.
Ewan McGregor was great and it just goes to show the value in focusing a series around a quality actor. Unfortunately the Star Wars universe doesn't really have many others where both the character and actor are viable for spin offs.
The clips of the prequels still make me wince. They still contain the worst dialogue from any films I've ever seen. It's like they were written by a 13yr old. Time hasn't dulled the stupid. Every scene was each character literally just saying their emotions and motivations out loud. So so bad.
Disney aren't exactly a safe pair of hands but let's be thankful George Lucas can't inflict any more of that on us.
Anyway the series was acceptable. Not boring, not annoying, not great, but fine. I'd watch another one.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 23, 2022 10:29:52 GMT
To give them credit, they did do a pretty decent job of bringing the prequels fairly into line with the vibe they are going for now. Shame they cant do anything about the word 'youngling' but you cant have everything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 10:32:30 GMT
Trouble with all this stuff is that it makes the whole timeline feel so very small. In ANH you could believe that the Empire had been around for generations, and had a firm grip on the galaxy. Yet a mere generation before that, and they didn't exist. Now we've got Obi Wan, set 10 years after RotS and 10 years before ANH and we've got the empire fully establihsed, the huge clone army gone and replaced with conscripts and it all feels so small.Same deal with the sequel trilogy. Empire gone and New Order established within a generation. Yet in that very small time they converted and entire planet into a weapon etc.
Small. Tiny. Everything's condensed into a couple of generations.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 23, 2022 10:36:42 GMT
I dunno, I reckon you could do a lot of space fascism in ten years if you had complete control of everything.
Besides, it's only the core systems that are firmly under the boot, right? The Outer Rim (like Tattooine) is still pretty wild west-y.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 10:41:36 GMT
Oh yeah, I mean the practicalities of it can still add up, but I just feel it makes it all less epic, and very condensed.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 23, 2022 10:43:45 GMT
This is why, taken at face value, Im looking forward to the Taika Waititi movie. A mainline movie that, apparently, doesnt revolve around the skywalker saga. Its a big galaxy, with a lot in it.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 23, 2022 12:08:40 GMT
There are so many sith in various existing stories. They could easily build up something in the same universe and have it be as big as the original saga, if done well enough. Maybe that’s their long term plan and this is all a “phase 1” of expanding things.
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Post by dogbot on Jun 23, 2022 12:10:35 GMT
Oh yeah, I mean the practicalities of it can still add up, but I just feel it makes it all less epic, and very condensed. Fair. It does. Also, I do wonder how big their ship yards must've been. |
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 23, 2022 12:15:50 GMT
The emperor clone made hundreds of Star destroyers in 30 years with about 200 people with no one noticing. Must be quick and easy to make.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 12:16:28 GMT
3d printers man, 3d printers.
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Post by simple on Jun 23, 2022 12:19:22 GMT
Its strange that the MCU has been constantly expanding its horizons under Disney but Star Wars seems absolutely determined to shrink its into filling every crack around a single story when it could go big doing something else.
Like even just tell one story that doesn’t involve quiet backwater on the edge of space where nothing happens Tatootine for start
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Post by dogbot on Jun 23, 2022 12:22:34 GMT
Have to be honest, as much as I approve of expanding horizons and telling stories that are not-Skywalker adjacent, I'm not entirely sure that I want the Star Wars universe to go the way of the MCU, either.
Some of the latter has been very good, but some of it has been much less so.
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Post by geefe on Jun 23, 2022 15:23:25 GMT
Out of morbid interest, I watched a bit of the prequels the other day. Fucking hell, haha. I am so glad I only watched Phantom Menace at cinema.
Children's sci fi fantasy adventure film has an opening about trade disputes and votes of no confidence. Absolutely dog shit. How the series survived that and the man children lapped it up, I'll never know.
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Post by simple on Jun 23, 2022 16:11:18 GMT
Have to be honest, as much as I approve of expanding horizons and telling stories that are not-Skywalker adjacent, I'm not entirely sure that I want the Star Wars universe to go the way of the MCU, either. Some of the latter has been very good, but some of it has been much less so. oh yeah, I don’t mean it needs to be as all encompassing and interconnecting, telling a million stories all at once but more that the scope could be bigger. Like if Mandalorian S1 had been a one off and you follow it with other totally standalone tales. I know this is nostalgia talking but I think Star Wars would also benefit from scarcity and not filling every gap - maybe fewer films or series but each has the time and care to feel like an event |
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 23, 2022 16:17:34 GMT
The Ahsoka series should be moving away from what's left of the Empire at that point because looking for Ezra and Thrawn shouldn't be happening in the regular places otherwise they'd have shown up a lot sooner. Whether that means it's Star Wars' doing Star Trek I don't know (well the Ghost is a lot smaller than the Enterprise for starters) but it should mean a lot of new planets and faces.
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Post by Resident Knievel on Jun 23, 2022 17:26:47 GMT
This series was ok overall, it did not shit all over the original trilogy like an incontinent horse like I feared, more just sharted in their general direction.
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Post by askew on Jun 23, 2022 18:20:03 GMT
That was a fun ending
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 23, 2022 18:30:07 GMT
The TV stuff allows them the freedom to be more experimental, the moment it's a main film it's locked down tighter than a Tatooine bumhole.
I do hope Taika can kick life into the films. Until then, it's down to the Mandolorian to expand things. I did enjoy the Ringworld (missus) in Boba Fett, but having Jedi doing handwaving at every turn just kills any suspense. Make them rare again. /order66
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 23, 2022 18:32:15 GMT
Although I did notice Ian McDiarmid needs less make-up these days....😬
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 23, 2022 19:19:09 GMT
For the shortcomings the series had, it was better than any of the prequels or episodes 9 and Solo. The best bits were better than most of 7 and 8 as well as Rogue One.
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 23, 2022 19:24:06 GMT
The TV stuff allows them the freedom to be more experimental, the moment it's a main film it's locked down tighter than a Tatooine bumhole. I do hope Taika can kick life into the films. Until then, it's down to the Mandolorian to expand things. I did enjoy the Ringworld (missus) in Boba Fett, but having Jedi doing handwaving at every turn just kills any suspense. Make them rare again. /order66 They only need to be rare in the current timeframe they’re stuck in. It’s fine there being lots of them if the story fits it and there’s a big enough conflict, if they just wander around saying they’re Jedi/Sith without doing much then that’ll be shit. Then being more of the major background threat or leaders/saviours would be good. There’s space for both types of stories. |
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 23, 2022 20:06:29 GMT
Out of morbid interest, I watched a bit of the prequels the other day. Fucking hell, haha. I am so glad I only watched Phantom Menace at cinema. Children's sci fi fantasy adventure film has an opening about trade disputes and votes of no confidence. Absolutely dog shit. How the series survived that and the man children lapped it up, I'll never know. *Puts down Jar Jar toothbrush.* Therm’s fighting words, youngling.  |
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 23, 2022 20:11:35 GMT
Out of morbid interest, I watched a bit of the prequels the other day. Fucking hell, haha. I am so glad I only watched Phantom Menace at cinema. Children's sci fi fantasy adventure film has an opening about trade disputes and votes of no confidence. Absolutely dog shit. How the series survived that and the man children lapped it up, I'll never know. *Puts down Jar Jar toothbrush.* Therm’s fighting words, youngling.  Does it make your tongue numb? |
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Post by dogbot on Jun 23, 2022 20:12:46 GMT
Out of morbid interest, I watched a bit of the prequels the other day. Fucking hell, haha. I am so glad I only watched Phantom Menace at cinema. Children's sci fi fantasy adventure film has an opening about trade disputes and votes of no confidence. Absolutely dog shit. How the series survived that and the man children lapped it up, I'll never know. *Puts down Jar Jar toothbrush.* Therm’s fighting words, youngling. Wipe them out. All of them. |
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 23, 2022 20:14:42 GMT
Worked my way through the prequels again just for the hell of it before Obi-Wan started.
It has it's moments, but there's no tension. Whatsoever. I remember watching them at the cinema back in the day and the best praise from my group on each film was 'well it wasn't as bad as the one before'.
Ahhhh well.
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Post by simple on Jun 23, 2022 20:21:55 GMT
Does the 3, 1, 2 ranking of my memory still stand?
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Post by Nemesis on Jun 23, 2022 20:22:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2022 20:24:42 GMT
It was always 2 > 1 > 3 in my opinion.
3 had the most action, but it always had the dumbed logic of the whole lot.
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Post by Saul1138 on Jun 23, 2022 20:47:50 GMT
It is still 1>3>2 for me. As has been said, each has some great set pieces. But a bit of spit and polish and they could have been much better.
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