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Post by harrypalmer on May 5, 2023 7:58:21 GMT
Yeah that’s what I mean. But having literally every fight punctuated with magically crafting more ammo several times just seems really odd to me. Like it would objectively be more fun if they just gave you more ammo.
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Post by dfunked on May 5, 2023 8:05:23 GMT
Yeah, that's a load of bullshit. At least let me fill up on ammo for that slot completely in one go instead of crafting 12 arrows or whatever.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 8:11:49 GMT
Is it actually worth seeing it through to the end? I lost the will to keep going around the time General Zod and the Kryptonians turn up.
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Post by Ulythium on May 5, 2023 8:15:31 GMT
If you enjoy the core gameplay, I'd say yes, as it doesn't vary much (if at all) throughout.
If you're thinking of pressing on in the hope of getting a worthwhile conclusion to the story, I'd say no (YMMV, obviously).
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 5, 2023 8:24:24 GMT
I would say its worth turning down the difficulty and mainlining the story. The DLC is actually really good, so I think thats definitely worth playing if it ever drops on gamepass and you have to finish the campaign to play that.
The sidequests and all the busy work is almost uniformly worthless but the actual main quest is OK. And, yeah, if you like gwaffix, the DLC is absolutely spectacular.
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Post by harrypalmer on May 5, 2023 10:36:51 GMT
Is it actually worth seeing it through to the end? I lost the will to keep going around the time General Zod and the Kryptonians turn up. I’d plough on and just do the main quests, they take you to some incredible locations. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 11:14:43 GMT
Yeah I'll try to plough through at some point. I think part of the problem is I'm completely sick of openworld stuff. That and I kind of feel the whole premise and aesthetic of it all kind of lame. Like a Syfy channel show brought to life.
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Post by theguy on May 17, 2023 14:41:00 GMT
Finished the DLC earlier.
I'm a Horizon nut so still liked it, but it did feel much weaker than the base game.
As for the writing, eh, I dunno, I thought FW had poor writing in general and the DLC continues it, but it's nothing for me to get up in arms over.
I was more annoyed at how much they just aped bits of 1984 in ways that didn't seem to fit the world but again, it's whatever. I just enjoy the gameplay
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Post by killerbee on May 17, 2023 15:03:57 GMT
Finished the DLC earlier. I'm a Horizon nut so still liked it, but it did feel much weaker than the base game. As for the writing, eh, I dunno, I thought FW had poor writing in general and the DLC continues it, but it's nothing for me to get up in arms over. I was more annoyed at how much they just aped bits of 1984 in ways that didn't seem to fit the world but again, it's whatever. I just enjoy the gameplay Fair dos. It is mostly more of the same, I agree. I thought the main story was good - they at least took the time to develop the bad guy Londra a bit and give him some context. Seyka was also better than most of your NPC mates from the main game. The sides quests were less memorable though. I think a lot of the best writing ends up in the text logs you find lying around. It’s a shame there’s not an easier way of finding them, because I’ve completed every mission, side quest and errand in the main game and the DLC and there are still dozens of logs I’ve never come across. Then again, I imagine plenty of people never read them even if they do find them… there probably does need to be a better way of fleshing out the world and story tbh. |
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Post by theguy on May 17, 2023 21:43:59 GMT
Finished the DLC earlier. I'm a Horizon nut so still liked it, but it did feel much weaker than the base game. As for the writing, eh, I dunno, I thought FW had poor writing in general and the DLC continues it, but it's nothing for me to get up in arms over. I was more annoyed at how much they just aped bits of 1984 in ways that didn't seem to fit the world but again, it's whatever. I just enjoy the gameplay Fair dos. It is mostly more of the same, I agree. I thought the main story was good - they at least took the time to develop the bad guy Londra a bit and give him some context. Seyka was also better than most of your NPC mates from the main game. The sides quests were less memorable though. I think a lot of the best writing ends up in the text logs you find lying around. It’s a shame there’s not an easier way of finding them, because I’ve completed every mission, side quest and errand in the main game and the DLC and there are still dozens of logs I’ve never come across. Then again, I imagine plenty of people never read them even if they do find them… there probably does need to be a better way of fleshing out the world and story tbh. I thought Londra was alright, but it just seemed to lack any payoff. There's no scene where you really confront him, speak much or learn more about him/the other zeniths outside of data logs. It felt like it could have led to something bigger but it's just as empty as the other Zeniths. He just ups and dies unceremoniously too. Your first "encounter" with him is him gloating he's smarter than the others and already knows of Aloy, but nothing comes of that either. It's also silly in that at one point Seyka and Aloy do just point blank run at his face, and he flies off despite having tech far more advanced than what they're even aware of at his disposal. Seyka I just thought was a pretty boring character honestly. I was cleaning up on collecting the datapoints after beating the DLC. I read them and they're OK, but yeah they're a bit tired at this point. Like you, I missed a few despite exploring a fair bit which is annoying since there's no real direction of where to get the rest without looking it up. I think data points worked better in ZD, where you're still learning about the world and piecing things together. Once you know what's happened come FW, a lot of the data points are kind of just empty filler. I feel like Burning Shores puts a lot of focus in the main story missions themselves, but outside of that the content is very thin, which is why it feels much weaker to me. I still enjoyed it though. I wish for better writing but it's not a dealbreaker for me. |
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Post by alastair on May 19, 2023 13:54:43 GMT
I'm enjoying it.
It's taking me a while to get fully to grips with the combat after so long away. Fought an Apex Slitherfang last. It was a lot harder than I remember when I was farming parts in the main game.
I've done the cauldron and most/all of the side quests. Working on upgrading weapons and finding the collectables before doing the final quest.
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Post by alastair on May 19, 2023 13:58:32 GMT
I was cleaning up on collecting the datapoints after beating the DLC. I read them and they're OK, but yeah they're a bit tired at this point. Like you, I missed a few despite exploring a fair bit which is annoying since there's no real direction of where to get the rest without looking it up. I think data points worked better in ZD, where you're still learning about the world and piecing things together. Once you know what's happened come FW, a lot of the data points are kind of just empty filler. I feel like Burning Shores puts a lot of focus in the main story missions themselves, but outside of that the content is very thin, which is why it feels much weaker to me. I still enjoyed it though. I wish for better writing but it's not a dealbreaker for me. Finding the datapoints in ZD and piecing the history together was the best bit for me. The aerial captures are quite a nice idea. |
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Post by theguy on May 21, 2023 14:26:51 GMT
Ah, you like the aerial captures? I thought they were pants
Give me a tallneck any day
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Post by killerbee on May 21, 2023 20:18:58 GMT
Ah, you like the aerial captures? I thought they were pants Give me a tallneck any day The Aerial Captures were more like replacements for the Vista Points though. In that context, they were miles better - a little bit of narrative (which is much better when you piece them all together) and a brief tour flying around sections of the map. I agree it’s a shame there wasn’t a Tallneck in the DLC as they were really good in the main game - I guess it might have felt a bit inconsistent when the opening story mission is about destroying the tower. |
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Post by alastair on May 22, 2023 6:46:17 GMT
I agree it’s a shame there wasn’t a Tallneck in the DLC as they were really good in the main game - I guess it might have felt a bit inconsistent when the opening story mission is about destroying the tower. Could have been a nice touch to find the remains of one that had been destroyed by the tower. |
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Post by alastair on May 22, 2023 10:47:03 GMT
Following a trail for one of the Pangea figures and it looks like it's been picked up by a Shell Walker - my word I got ambushed in the resulting fight to 'clear out the machines'!!
Shell walkers, Sunwings and a couple of watchers/burrowers.
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Post by theguy on May 22, 2023 10:50:58 GMT
Ah, you like the aerial captures? I thought they were pants Give me a tallneck any day The Aerial Captures were more like replacements for the Vista Points though. In that context, they were miles better - a little bit of narrative (which is much better when you piece them all together) and a brief tour flying around sections of the map. I agree it’s a shame there wasn’t a Tallneck in the DLC as they were really good in the main game - I guess it might have felt a bit inconsistent when the opening story mission is about destroying the tower. That's true, but I just didn't like them much anyway and would be happy to have all of them scrapped if it meant having a tallneck. Felt like lazy content to me really, almost like it was thrown in last minute. It's just mindlessly following a line while audio logs play. If they all led to something like the one with the Stormbird, I'd have much preferred that but as they are I'd even take the vista points over them. The logs themselves felt padded out for the sake of having 6 of the things too. You're right about the tallneck, I wonder if it also has something to do with the addition of flight meaning you could just bypass the entire climb. |
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Post by alastair on May 22, 2023 10:54:58 GMT
You're right about the tallneck, I wonder if it also has something to do with the addition of flight meaning you could just bypass the entire climb. I think you've hit the nail on the head. |
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Post by alastair on May 23, 2023 8:51:07 GMT
I've just finished the Aerial Captures this morning.
I liked them - a decent bit of lore about the defence of LA to give time for Zero Dawn to complete.
Somehow it reminded me more of the scans in the original game.
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Post by alastair on May 23, 2023 11:49:26 GMT
On the Burning Shores Progression screen I can see the items under Activities - Cauldrons 1, Relic Ruins 1, and then Unknown.
What's the unknown? Because I've cleared at least one Devotee Outpost so I don't think it can be that.
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Post by killerbee on May 23, 2023 12:48:28 GMT
On the Burning Shores Progression screen I can see the items under Activities - Cauldrons 1, Relic Ruins 1, and then Unknown. What's the unknown? Because I've cleared at least one Devotee Outpost so I don't think it can be that. I believe it’s a bunch of new Arena challenges. I can’t confirm for sure as I confess I didn’t bother doing them. There’s also a set of collectibles for picking up post-DLC data logs from each of your old companions back in the main game, but I think that’s under Collections. |
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Post by alastair on May 23, 2023 13:35:47 GMT
I believe it’s a bunch of new Arena challenges. I can’t confirm for sure as I confess I didn’t bother doing them. There’s also a set of collectibles for picking up post-DLC data logs from each of your old companions back in the main game, but I think that’s under Collections. Blimey! How would anyone ever realise they were there to do and collect! Did I miss a call from Beta, Hekarro, Zo or Sylens (I've lost track of who all died during HFW!!) telling me about the Arena or anything. It would have been a bit contrived, but at least players would know there's something to be done. |
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Post by theguy on May 23, 2023 14:37:30 GMT
It comes up after you finish the DLC, I think they're only accessible after finishing it. If you've already finished the DLC you probably just skipped past the screen telling you about it  |
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Post by alastair on May 23, 2023 16:24:33 GMT
Ahh. I try to complete everything else before the final mission. I tend to lose the momentum otherwise.
So, I haven't finished it yet..
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Post by alastair on Jun 7, 2023 9:58:56 GMT
So very nearly completed it.
For some reason I don't have enough for every single skill to get the final trophy (I've never bothered with New Game+, so I don't really know what it is..). Possibly because I didn't bother finishing all the gauntlet races.
So, I believe I can reset all skills then just activate the minimum in each skill tree to get all the new ones.
Edit - And done.
I enjoyed it overall.
Similar complaints to others I think. The combat is kind of over-complicated by the number of weapon types. I generally use the blastsling and then hunter or sharpshot bow.
Stealthing around was fun, but actually, powered up arrows are more effective.
I will certainly pick up part 3 in the series when it comes.
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Post by theguy on Jun 7, 2023 12:32:39 GMT
There are a few new weapons in NG+, but otherwise it's the typical keep your gear but start again with harder enemies. You do get to fly around early this time though which is a plus.
I just finished my NG+ playthrough of the main game and Burning Shores. I actually liked the replay of the main game more than I thought I would.
But it did mean comparatively Burning Shores felt even weaker to me. Pretty much nothing just feels as interesting. The frequent quipping thought mentioned earlier does get grating too and is so often at odds with the events.
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Post by killerbee on Jun 7, 2023 13:23:50 GMT
alastairI did have to grind a bit to unlock all the skills, but you’ll probably find that if you go and kill a couple of bigger machines you’ll be there or thereabouts. Even if you hit the level cap, you still get “ghost” levels after that which grant skill unlock points. Or you can go and mop up tasks from the main game for the same.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 7, 2024 9:12:17 GMT
Since this is coming to PC shortly (finally?!), the game might see some posting interest. Can this thread be moved to general gaming instead ?
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 7, 2024 9:33:32 GMT
Thank you forum wizard whomever you are
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Mar 15, 2024 15:27:32 GMT
Anybody pre-ordered from fanatical before?
Curious to know if they deliver codes early.
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