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Post by rhaegyr on Sept 17, 2024 8:49:14 GMT
I'm an idiot who has all his money in a current account and always has.
I'm guessing I should be setting up both an ISA and a savings account - can anyone recommend any decent ones for either (or both)?
I've done a bit of research and Santander offer a 4.5% ISA for 12 months and First Direct seem to offer the best saver at 7% (£300 min, 12 month, no withdrawal). Is there anything better than that?
For some reason I always thought I'd be able to find an ISA at 10% but I may have dreamt it. I'm also confused that longer term ISA's have poorer interest rates - I would assume they'd offer better rates to lock you and your money in longer.
/financially illiterate
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Post by dmukgr on Sept 17, 2024 9:00:22 GMT
"I'm also confused that longer term ISA's have poorer interest rates - I would assume they'd offer better rates to lock you and your money in longer."
It is because interest rates are predicted to drop over the coming years, so you are taking some risk and the banks are too when you sign up to longer terms.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 17, 2024 9:11:02 GMT
Totally not an expert, but if you're planning to save for the longer term, stick it in a Stocks&Shares ISA rather than a Cash one. There's a reason all the rich are getting richer, and it's mainly because they have all their money in stocks. Having said that, interest rates on the cash ones seem pretty good at the moment though. No idea how long that'll last as I assume it's tied to inflation. They sounded scary back in the day when I opened my first ISA, so I just got a cash one. If I'd opened a stocks one back then I'd be bloody loaded now. If it's a long term investment, and if you're paying in regularly, some basic index fund or etf that tracks the market will do great. If you plan to take out the money in a year or so, a stocks one might not be a good idea, as they can go up and down quite a bit in the short term, but the longer term trend is pretty much always up. PS/ Someone was talking about an age-limited one where the government will top it up if you open it before a certain age. I forget the details though. That might be well worth a look if you're young enough.
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Post by rhaegyr on Sept 17, 2024 9:15:51 GMT
Cheers chaps!
I'm a bit of a miser so I think I'll go with a cash ISA for 12 months and then maybe look at the Stocks and Shares one the following year.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 17, 2024 9:56:58 GMT
www.gov.uk/lifetime-isa if by any chance you're still under 40. Seems like a great deal, in my uninformed opinion. PS/ Stocks sound scary and complex, but they're really not these days. Best option is to pay in a monthly amount, that way you're spreading your investment over time and not so affected by short term changes. Loads of challenger banks etc.. do very simple ones now.
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Post by rhaegyr on Sept 17, 2024 9:59:37 GMT
www.gov.uk/lifetime-isa if by any chance you're still under 40. Seems like a great deal, in my uninformed opinion. PS/ Stocks sound scary and complex, but they're really not these days. Best option is to pay in a monthly amount, that way you're spreading your investment over time and not so affected by short term changes. Loads of challenger banks etc.. do very simple ones now. Great spot, thank you!
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 17, 2024 10:04:43 GMT
Check with someone else though, as I don't know what I'm talking about Someone on here definitely used it though.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 17, 2024 10:05:30 GMT
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Post by Kay on Sept 17, 2024 10:54:01 GMT
www.gov.uk/lifetime-isa if by any chance you're still under 40. Seems like a great deal, in my uninformed opinion. PS/ Stocks sound scary and complex, but they're really not these days. Best option is to pay in a monthly amount, that way you're spreading your investment over time and not so affected by short term changes. Loads of challenger banks etc.. do very simple ones now. Great spot, thank you! Definitely sign up to it before you're 40, but before you put any money in just remember you can only use it for a house that is £450k or lower and has to also be both you and your partner's first property. Otherwise you can use it for retirement, but may get a better return putting money into a pension and stocks. As for ISAs, check on money saving expert for banks with the best rates. Might be worth locking the money away for a year at a good fixed interest rate, if you don't need access to it now.
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Post by rhaegyr on Sept 17, 2024 10:57:18 GMT
Thanks KayI looked at bit more into the Lifetime ISA and it's probably not for me as we already have our first home and I don't earn enough money to be secure in not accessing the funds for 20+ years until I'm 60. Found a cash ISA at just under 5% and a savings account at 7% - both no withdrawals before 12 months. Think I'll go for both of them for the year and then review next year once I'm more comfortable. Thanks again for the help all. Next stop - figuring out pensions!
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Post by rhaegyr on Sept 17, 2024 10:57:44 GMT
They should teach this stuff at school (though kids will probably ignore it)
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Post by brokenkey on Sept 17, 2024 13:11:12 GMT
Chip do 4.84% on a fully flexible cash ISA. You can deposit and withdraw throughout the year as long as your deposited balance never exceeds 20k. (Ie, you can put in 20k, take out 10k, put in another 10k.
Referral code for Chip if anyone wants to use one: you can also enter the code CHIP-RRL407 in app
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Post by Nitrous on Sept 17, 2024 13:59:12 GMT
They should teach this stuff at school (though kids will probably ignore it) Yes they should. A life skill. Anyway, you can earn upto £1,000 tax free in interest as a 20% tax payer so you'd need a fair bit of cash to even get near £1,000 in interest over the tax year with the rates being so low. If you are a 40% tax payer I believe the threshold is lower. If you are lucky enough to be earning over 1k in interest over a year then absolutely get an ISA as it'll be tax free. Alternative savings account to just have a quick look at would be Chase, an excellent app and current account and savings rates tend to be ok especially for new customers and they offer 1% cashback on purchases and a save the change thing so it rounds up to the nearest whole pound and sticks in a little pot earning 5% interest which you can get back ever 12 months. It's not much but adds up and finally it's a great card to spend abroad as they don't charge an exchange fee. As for ISA, check out trading 212. They do a stocks and shares for those that feel comfortable locking in for the long term but they now offer a fully flexible cash ISA that's about 5%. It's not fixed though. I've had the trading 212 account for a few months and stuck just under £7.5k and the interest is calculated daily for a £1 a day return (£30 a month in interest basically)
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Post by rhaegyr on Sept 17, 2024 14:09:57 GMT
Great stuff, thank you for that.
Potentially daft question - that Trading 212 ISA seems too good to be true. How can they offer 5.05% on an ISA than you can dip in and out of at any time yet most other ISA's from other banks are for a lower interest rate and you can't touch your cash for 12 months?
Is it purely that they're a smaller firm so need to have more enticing offers?
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Post by askew on Sept 17, 2024 14:12:06 GMT
To get their hands on your money!
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Post by PatrickEwing on Sept 17, 2024 14:13:55 GMT
Nailed it on last comment re: Trading 212.
No brainer to go for their cash ISA at 5.05%, although it has dropped 0.2% in recent weeks, presume it will drop quickly if and when interest rates go down.
Note they word it like the Trading ISA gives 5.05% interest but it is in fact just their Cash ISA
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Post by brokenkey on Sept 17, 2024 14:16:33 GMT
I dont understand the regulatory status of Trading. They aren't a bank, they don't disclose who or where they are holding the customer funds. Eg, Chip uses clearbank, and the funds are held at the BoE.
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Post by Gruf on Sept 17, 2024 14:20:01 GMT
Use Amazon as a catalogue, then buy off Ebay cheaper and usually free postage, thanks Bezos you wonky eyed fuck I use Chip as well, S&P 500 ISA and forget about it, simple enough for a pleb like me to understand, also use their AI deposit system, it is like having a wife draining your bank account but it goes straight into my Vanguard LifeStrategy ISA Also have a FTSE 100 one, but it performs less well cause the UK is in the shitter NatWest Digital regular saver account 6.17 AER catch is you can only deposit 150 a month but you can also direct your Natwest account top up payments into that if you turn it on I usually dump £200 in the ISA's and all the automatic save leeching pulls out 100+ I am shit at saving but this has worked for me. Oh, S&P 500 nearly at an all time high today, nice (note to self, must not check every 5 mins)
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Post by zisssou on Sept 17, 2024 14:40:30 GMT
I was tempted by Trading 212, but it's not exactly a million miles from what I have now. I suppose if you're looking to squeeze every penny.
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Post by zisssou on Sept 17, 2024 14:42:49 GMT
The biggest advice I can give you. Stop buying new games I see your backlog.
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Post by Gruf on Sept 17, 2024 14:48:13 GMT
Sony deffo helped me out raising games to £70, they fecked me right off buying them
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 17, 2024 15:08:26 GMT
I wonder if Trading212 are taking new members yet*. They got caught up in that stupid gamestop thing a few years back, about one day before I was going to open an account. And then I got stuck on a waiting list that has been going for several years now...
*nope, still not over here. They used to, but I think the gamestop thing brought the regulators down on them a bit, and they've restricted it to only some countries.
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Post by Nitrous on Sept 17, 2024 17:31:11 GMT
Anyone wondering who Trading 212 hold money with for cash ISAs it's split across Barclays, JP Morgan and NatWest who are all part of the FSCS so money is protected upto 85k. A bit less if you have funds with one of these banks already.
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Post by hedben on Sept 20, 2024 12:56:12 GMT
I’ve got a raised bed on my driveway where the retaining wall borders the pavement, and it looks like it’s close to falling over. Combination of wear and tear, particularly heavy rains this year, and a massive tree stump in the raised bed that might be pushing the wall outwards.
I’ve never claimed on home insurance before, think I have fairly comprehensive cover for accidental damage etc. Is it likely I could make a home insurance claim for the work needed to make the wall safe? Not sure I can afford it otherwise, and I’d rather not have to wait for it to fall into the pavement (or on some kid’s head) before claiming.
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 20, 2024 13:11:01 GMT
Not sure how that would fall under an issue of insurance. The tree stump was there 6 months ago and before so I doubt they’d pay out.
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Post by hedben on Sept 20, 2024 13:50:33 GMT
Reviewer yes I know it’s a long shot, just genuinely have no idea whether “my wall is falling over” is a normal thing to claim on insurance
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Post by zisssou on Oct 1, 2024 14:01:01 GMT
Anyone done unoccupied insurance before? My mums is up for renewal and it's £315 which seems pretty steep.. but then it's a risk that it's unoccupied I suppose?
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Oct 1, 2024 14:06:22 GMT
Yep, more risk of a burst pipe, roof leak, fire etc not being reported.
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Post by mrpon on Oct 1, 2024 14:38:47 GMT
Squatters, burglaries, animal infestations etc..
Are we helping settle the nerves?
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Post by zisssou on Oct 1, 2024 14:39:47 GMT
Going to go over and set the house up like Home Alone. Anyone got any micro machines?
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