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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 11, 2022 9:42:47 GMT
Agree with that, the small day to day stuff isn't going to make a difference. It being 4C in October does though  |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Oct 11, 2022 9:45:46 GMT
Starting to feel the only person who wears warm clothes in the winter, doesn't have their CH on timer or set to a thermostat, and just turns it on for a bit when it's genuinely chilly.
Baffles me when I join Teams calls and see people still wearing t-shirts at home in October.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Oct 11, 2022 9:52:45 GMT
Even before kWh Kapers, work are pretty much used to seeing me in a beanie now. As soon as it hits october, one spawns on my head and doesnt leave until spring.
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2022 9:53:29 GMT
My current setup is t shirt, hoodie, blanket, wool joggers and socks. When the sun hits the kitchen more I relocate and stand by the counter so I'm moving a bit more.
NB: a window is currently being replaced upstairs cause the glazing blew last year, so there is about a 1.5m square hole in my house
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2022 9:54:49 GMT
I've got long trousers on today, but I'm still wearing a t shirt. I did have a thin hoody on to walk the hound first thing this morning, but it's really not that cold yet.
Sorry and that.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 11, 2022 9:57:49 GMT
4 FUCKING C is cold!  |
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Post by Dougs on Oct 11, 2022 10:15:31 GMT
Not sure this fixation with the meter readings is healthy. It's easy enough to cut back where you can without getting OCD about making a cup of tea. Indeed. There are limits to what you can achieve - just be sensible and switch stuff off, use eco modes where possible and layer up. |
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Post by dogbot on Oct 11, 2022 10:16:33 GMT
4 FUCKING C is cold! I would agree with you if it were that here. Outside, it was 10 here overnight and is 14 now, not 4. If it's 4 degrees in your house, you might want to get some insulation and check out your doors and windows. 😉 |
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2022 10:38:57 GMT
Are you lot finding that the fire actually helps and isn't costing a fortune?
My house was built circa 1890 so was designed to be fucking freezing. Insulation is pretty much a non starter.
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2022 10:46:51 GMT
I got quoted £6,000 to insulate two rooms.
Fuck that. I might just get a stud wall put up in the living room to create a makeshift hallway from the front door.
NB - mine is internal wall insulation, not cavity.
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Post by Dougs on Oct 11, 2022 10:52:27 GMT
As discussed a lot in the DIY thread, beware of cavity wall insulation in older houses. It just leads to condensation and then black spot mold. The moisture has to go somewhere.
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Post by elstoof on Oct 11, 2022 10:52:42 GMT
Just give you damp issues. Insulate the loft if you have to.
wot he said ^
Also any filling you pump in just provided a wick for water from your external brick to travel through to your room, fuck that
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Post by cubby on Oct 11, 2022 11:07:32 GMT
I swear these smart metres are just an additional source of anxiety. We haven't got one but all anyone seems to do when they've got one is kvetch about it.
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2022 11:08:05 GMT
If I just whack some insulation in the eaves of a converted loft, will that be of any use?
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Post by richardiox on Oct 11, 2022 11:15:25 GMT
Every little helps. My uncle fully filled his loft with scrunched up post-it notes last winter and is adamant it makes a difference.
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Post by henroben on Oct 11, 2022 11:17:46 GMT
As discussed a lot in the DIY thread, beware of cavity wall insulation in older houses. It just leads to condensation and then black spot mold. The moisture has to go somewhere. This... is not what I've experienced. I've had cavity wall insulation in the front of my Victorian house for the last decade with no issues at all. From what I understand, the problems come from not having a well maintained outer brickwork i.e needs repointing, spoiling of the brick faces etc. and more importantly, whether that wall faces the predominant wind direction - that I think is the real culprit. If you've the wind forcing rain against your house you're going to get a lot of moisture ingress that as you say has to go somewhere and cavity filling will allow it to wick across to the inner brickwork. The front of my house is in the lee of the wind and rarely if ever gets wet from rainfall and it's all been fine. So I think it's more of a 'can work in some situations' for old houses, rather than a blanket "never do this". I wouldn't say it's made an amazing difference to heat loss though, but I guess every little helps. |
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Oct 11, 2022 11:19:44 GMT
I seem quite insulated from these hikes.
Eons estimated annual bills for my two bed apartment.
2022
Elec - £652
Gas - £587
2023
Elec - £768
Gas - £794
Not sure if that includes the £400 payment.
Just seems bizarre there's such massive disparity in charges between properties.
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Post by rawshark on Oct 11, 2022 11:20:30 GMT
My kW bring all the boys to the yard,
And they’re like it’s colder than yours
Damn right, it’s colder than yours
I could heat you but I’d have to charge.
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2022 11:26:47 GMT
So I found out, literally the other day, that milkshake doesn't refer to the drink. That song must be 20 years old or so. Felt like a right muppet.
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Post by elstoof on Oct 11, 2022 11:26:52 GMT
Eon currently have me on “Next Flex” at £5500 per year, or if I want I can switch to “Next Flex” for £7999
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Post by quadfather on Oct 11, 2022 11:27:10 GMT
I have fuck all central heating, and I feel the cold very easily. However, the single most useful thing I did was to replace the back door and then examine the rest of the rooms in the house for insulation.
I've got it about bang on now. But I do need my multi fuel burner to get me through winter though. I quite like it. Spend a few months foraging for logs and coal and then just blaze yourself through the cold period. Also, sounds trite and simple, but going for long walks in the cold soon warms you up and when you come back home to a roaring fire, you're sorted.
As for the smart meter and energy usage, it's basically - if it generates heat = it costs more money. So turning off 1 lightbulb in a room will probably save you about 11 pence over 95 years.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Oct 11, 2022 11:27:48 GMT
I seem quite insulated from these hikes. Eons estimated annual bills for my two bed apartment. 2022 Elec - £652 Gas - £587 2023 Elec - £768 Gas - £794 Not sure if that includes the £400 payment. Just seems bizarre there's such massive disparity in charges between properties. Apartment's are far better insulated than houses built in the 1930's :/ |
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Post by geefe on Oct 11, 2022 11:32:58 GMT
Cheers, Quaddy.
I did notice that last night when I came in from a run, I was in just a t shirt til about 9pm.
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Post by Vortex on Oct 11, 2022 11:40:43 GMT
the single most useful thing I did was to replace the back door and then examine the rest. I've got it about bang on now. Haha! We've heard about your backdoor shenanigans before at the old place- Paging innuendobot! |
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Post by technoish on Oct 11, 2022 12:00:40 GMT
As discussed a lot in the DIY thread, beware of cavity wall insulation in older houses. It just leads to condensation and then black spot mold. The moisture has to go somewhere. This... is not what I've experienced. I've had cavity wall insulation in the front of my Victorian house for the last decade with no issues at all. From what I understand, the problems come from not having a well maintained outer brickwork i.e needs repointing, spoiling of the brick faces etc. and more importantly, whether that wall faces the predominant wind direction - that I think is the real culprit. If you've the wind forcing rain against your house you're going to get a lot of moisture ingress that as you say has to go somewhere and cavity filling will allow it to wick across to the inner brickwork. The front of my house is in the lee of the wind and rarely if ever gets wet from rainfall and it's all been fine. So I think it's more of a 'can work in some situations' for old houses, rather than a blanket "never do this". I wouldn't say it's made an amazing difference to heat loss though, but I guess every little helps. Cavity wall in a Victorian property? |
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Post by elstoof on Oct 11, 2022 12:08:21 GMT
That would be very unusual
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Post by cubby on Oct 11, 2022 12:13:07 GMT
Back when you could get your cavities swept by 6 urchins for a shilling.
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Post by Reviewer on Oct 11, 2022 12:21:34 GMT
Fucking energy bills have meant Octopus energy have stopped giving out free toy octopuses because ‘saving money’ and making sure people are warm is more important.
I want my octopus.
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Post by henroben on Oct 11, 2022 12:27:19 GMT
This... is not what I've experienced. I've had cavity wall insulation in the front of my Victorian house for the last decade with no issues at all. From what I understand, the problems come from not having a well maintained outer brickwork i.e needs repointing, spoiling of the brick faces etc. and more importantly, whether that wall faces the predominant wind direction - that I think is the real culprit. If you've the wind forcing rain against your house you're going to get a lot of moisture ingress that as you say has to go somewhere and cavity filling will allow it to wick across to the inner brickwork. The front of my house is in the lee of the wind and rarely if ever gets wet from rainfall and it's all been fine. So I think it's more of a 'can work in some situations' for old houses, rather than a blanket "never do this". I wouldn't say it's made an amazing difference to heat loss though, but I guess every little helps. Cavity wall in a Victorian property? Yep! Builders were starting to experiment with cavity walls in the late Victorian period, and I think they became commonplace in the 1920's. Think it very much depends on who built the house - from what I understand they used to plan areas of new houses and then sell off the plots to individual local builders - so you can have a certain amount of variation in their construction within a single street. They're usually quite narrow cavities though, often around an inch, so I think only certain methods of insulation can work in them. But they definitely exist! |
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Post by nexus6 on Oct 11, 2022 12:37:20 GMT
Cavity fill insulation has the potential to make a small improvement in thermal performance. It also has the potential to cause severe problems with the fabric of the house.
Weighing it up, and having bought a house with poorly installed cavity fill, I would always, in my professional capacity, advise against having it installed. I would advise on other methods of being more efficient in heating your house etc.
Put it this way - if you are applying to build a new house today and proposed a wall construction with solid outer leaf, full fill cavity insulation and solid of framed inner leaf, you will have a battle on to prove that it is acceptable.
There are some 'systems' on the market for this however the are designed from the ground up and involve extra layers (vapour control, breather membrane etc) as well as being approached from a whole-building perspective IE ventilation as part of the design.
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