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Post by quadfather on Aug 10, 2022 17:33:59 GMT
Edit: @quad I’m guessing the businesses impacted would either seek crisis funding from the govt (which we pay for) or minimum revenue guarantees (which we pay for) or exit the country as unprofitable which would require the govt to sugar the deal to attract new entrants (which we pay for) or - in some alternate reality - botch a nationalisation (which we pay for) to show that it doesn’t work and bring back the same companies that left on sweeter terms (which we pay for). Before any of that happened, the population would capitulate because, you know, energy is kinda important. I think I'm spotting something here |
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Post by quadfather on Aug 10, 2022 17:35:16 GMT
Exactly. Serfdom and tugging the forelock has been built into us for generations upon generations upon generations. Oh, we Brits talk a good game on the internet or in the pub, but when it comes down to it, most of us will doff our caps and take another lump. Yeah I get this. I'm just trying to imagine the ramifications if we actually all did something. I know it's a pipe dream etc, just curious |
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Post by dogbot on Aug 10, 2022 17:43:05 GMT
Exactly. Serfdom and tugging the forelock has been built into us for generations upon generations upon generations. Oh, we Brits talk a good game on the internet or in the pub, but when it comes down to it, most of us will doff our caps and take another lump. Yeah I get this. I'm just trying to imagine the ramifications if we actually all did something. I know it's a pipe dream etc, just curious Tbh I'm probably not the right person for this, but I don't think riots would be the answer. There are already various public sector workers striking. A much better tactic would be for well organised groups of other workers to tactically join these strikes and generally bring the country to a halt for days at a time. That'd be hard to ignore and it'd show a united populace, which then becomes more difficult to ignore, especially if there's a series of coordinated actions bringing the country to a standstill. Do it enough and the owners of capital would take serious notice and start to bring real pressure to bear on the government. And obviously, if that doesn't work, tool up and start burning shit. |
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Post by anephric on Aug 10, 2022 18:21:33 GMT
Yes, general strike would be the thing, and you can say the lack of unions outside of the few public sector ones with any kind of teeth left would be the problem, but you have SOCIAL MEDIA now. Unions don't need to liaise with each other, just get some twat on Tik Tok.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Aug 10, 2022 18:37:37 GMT
What I find infuriating is the blatant obfuscation around profit.
Eon, Centrica, BP, Shell making obscene profits, billions in profits but it's nothing to do with your bills. Oh no it's just coincidence that we're doing so well and you're being bled dry.
Here's our reporting, see we couldn't possibly reduce your bill.
Fuck. Off.
A I don't believe the reporting around revenue streams. No one validates it.
B. Even if it was true how about using some of those obscene profits to actually help your customers?
People are going to die, because paying shareholders and bonuses is more important it's fucking disgraceful.
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Post by deekyfun on Aug 10, 2022 18:49:42 GMT
Its okay. Ofgem say suppliers could up their direct debits earlier so the massive increase in October isn't such a shock to the system. See? They've got our backs after all.
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Post by sport✅ on Aug 10, 2022 18:52:00 GMT
FG just doesn't get business. Massive expenses esp petrol pump attendants.
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Post by khanivor on Aug 10, 2022 19:41:44 GMT
Exactly. Serfdom and tugging the forelock has been built into us for generations upon generations upon generations. Oh, we Brits talk a good game on the internet or in the pub, but when it comes down to it, most of us will doff our caps and take another lump. Should really be grateful it took the leeches this long to realize just how often they can go to pound town, lube-free. |
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Post by khanivor on Aug 10, 2022 19:44:49 GMT
FG just doesn't get business. Massive expenses esp petrol pump attendants. Costs a lot of money to keep all the horse manure shovelers employed as well. Can’t have the horses fouling up the garage forecourts. Plus the chimney sweeps. |
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Post by Danno on Aug 10, 2022 19:53:57 GMT
FG just doesn't get business. Massive expenses esp petrol pump attendants. Costs a lot of money to keep all the horse manure shovelers employed as well. Can’t have the horses fouling up the garage forecourts. Plus the chimney sweeps. Why are you posting, haven't you got shoes to shine? |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 10, 2022 19:55:45 GMT
How much we do we have on Workhouses making a comeback then?
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Post by Danno on Aug 10, 2022 19:59:59 GMT
How much we do we have on Workhouses making a comeback then? I feel the problem is how much ~they~ have riding on it |
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Post by khanivor on Aug 10, 2022 20:12:12 GMT
Costs a lot of money to keep all the horse manure shovelers employed as well. Can’t have the horses fouling up the garage forecourts. Plus the chimney sweeps. Why are you posting, haven't you got shoes to shine? /off to get my shinebox |
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Post by nexus6 on Aug 10, 2022 21:22:36 GMT
Why are you posting, haven't you got shoes to shine? /off to get my shinebox MUTHA FUCKA!!! |
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Post by Danno on Aug 10, 2022 21:25:33 GMT
Im sure this is a RATM reference but I can't make it fit
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Post by nexus6 on Aug 10, 2022 21:36:32 GMT
Goodfellas
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Post by Danno on Aug 10, 2022 21:38:18 GMT
Ahh I had the emphasis the wrong way around
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Post by khanivor on Aug 10, 2022 21:46:49 GMT
You think I’m funny?
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Aug 10, 2022 22:00:21 GMT
You think I'm funny?
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Post by anephric on Aug 10, 2022 23:03:42 GMT
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Post by Danno on Aug 10, 2022 23:05:48 GMT
Stops short of a nationalised energy plan but otherwise yeah. Decent short to mid term strat. |
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Post by anephric on Aug 10, 2022 23:16:23 GMT
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Post by geefe on Aug 11, 2022 6:41:27 GMT
I am not above the idea of violence and physical intimidation as actual pressure tactics with these people. At the end of the day, you'd get shit done if you had 200 people surrounding your house and kids.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Aug 11, 2022 6:48:05 GMT
I'd condone violence at those point.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 11, 2022 6:54:25 GMT
Do we have stats on how many people are still on decent fixed tariffs? It can't be many...
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Post by jeepers on Aug 11, 2022 8:40:25 GMT
I am not above the idea of violence and physical intimidation as actual pressure tactics with these people. At the end of the day, you'd get shit done if you had 200 people surrounding your house and kids. Yeah, when has mob rule ever gone wrong? |
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Post by geefe on Aug 11, 2022 9:18:16 GMT
I am not above the idea of violence and physical intimidation as actual pressure tactics with these people. At the end of the day, you'd get shit done if you had 200 people surrounding your house and kids. Yeah, when has mob rule ever gone wrong? Quite a number of times. But do protests change things? Are these billionaires in bubbles given any actual reason to engage with the world and show empathy? |
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Post by Sarfrin on Aug 11, 2022 9:45:42 GMT
I am not above the idea of violence and physical intimidation as actual pressure tactics with these people. At the end of the day, you'd get shit done if you had 200 people surrounding your house and kids. Yeah, when has mob rule ever gone wrong? Right, because letting a government do whatever it wants without a squeak of protest has never gone wrong? |
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Post by dogbot on Aug 11, 2022 10:22:15 GMT
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Aug 11, 2022 10:24:51 GMT
Yeah that's sky news, that's bullshit.
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