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Post by geefe on Apr 14, 2022 8:33:05 GMT
Yeah. I am apparently in the bracket that's stuck at 1.5%.
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Post by stuz359 on Apr 14, 2022 9:29:33 GMT
I think there are different brackets of student loans, so before the introduction of £9k a year fees is a different system. I think. But the government seem to be trying to change the terms and conditions of loans already granted, which seems like a really shitty thing to do.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Apr 14, 2022 9:45:28 GMT
I think something like only 25% of student loans are ever fully paid back so, logically, their options were to just give up on it and fund higher education or fuck graduates even harder.
Obviously option 2 is the one they are going to take.
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Post by geefe on Apr 14, 2022 10:24:02 GMT
Graduate voters will remember that...
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Apr 14, 2022 10:43:57 GMT
One of the reasons Im incredibly reluctant to vote labour is that they introduced tuition fees about 30 seconds after I became old enough to vote for them.
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Post by stuz359 on Apr 14, 2022 13:33:03 GMT
One of the reasons Im incredibly reluctant to vote labour is that they introduced tuition fees about 30 seconds after I became old enough to vote for them. They had the ambition to have 50% of young people go to University, so a rapid expansion of places. Had to be funded somehow and £3k a year wasn't unreasonable. The coalition government whacking it up to £9k a year was barbaric.
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Post by geefe on Apr 14, 2022 14:46:48 GMT
The aim of 50% of the population being university educated feels really pointless, if there aren't the jobs to sustain them.
It also relies heavily on the idea that your country will do all the thinking, high salary jobs and then export the grunt work.
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Post by RobEG on Apr 14, 2022 14:49:36 GMT
Just got an email from Shell saying they recommend I increase my direct debit from £106 to £303. Shit.
I know they like to keep you in credit so not sure it needs to be quite that high but still. Shit.
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Post by Tomo on Apr 14, 2022 15:02:12 GMT
The aim of 50% of the population being university educated feels really pointless, if there aren't the jobs to sustain them. It also relies heavily on the idea that your country will do all the thinking, high salary jobs and then export the grunt work. It was really pointless. Loads of people have degrees now, which devalues them to some extent, and then in turn makes people think they need a masters degree (or higher) to look exceptional, which cost a fortune. And, in many cases have been cobbled together by departments short on cash and short on staff because they've had to drag researchers into teaching roles which they aren't trained for/don't want to do. Honestly, universities in this country are increasingly fucked. Pay is appalling (last I read a 17% pay cut in about the last 5-10 years because of lower than inflation pay 'rises'), ridiculous expectations on research staff conducting teaching effectively for free when they aren't even trained to do it, Brexit causing many staff to return to their countries, and - most recently - the USS pension scheme being totally fucked meaning that one meagre financial slither of promise that academics have is now gone. Problem is, the academic plight is so abstract or too far removing from everyday benefits to wider society, that it's easy to just ignore and let it decay. Researchers and lecturers in their brown blazers with placards isn't a relatable issue so their complaints largely fall on deaf or ignorant ears. Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we start slipping down international league tables in the coming years.
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Post by elstoof on Apr 14, 2022 17:39:02 GMT
The international league tables have always been bullshit, skewed heavily towards English speaking universities
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Post by Lizard on Apr 14, 2022 17:42:26 GMT
Even the domestic league tables are bullshit. Obviously Northampton isn't the same as UCL, but it's incredibly reductive.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Apr 15, 2022 10:23:34 GMT
The international league tables have always been bullshit, skewed heavily towards English speaking universities Yup. They're also largely meaningless because it depends entirely on whatever weightings they decide to give different factors. That said, one of the few areas where the UK still has/had some global respect was Universities (warranted or not). Lots of students from many countries dreamed of coming to the UK to study. AFAIK uk universities got quite a lot of money out of them, which helped subsidise some of the costs for UK students. Luckily the UK government and press have done their best to stop foreign students coming to UK universities, so now those uni's are short on funding.
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Post by Syrette on May 16, 2022 11:17:13 GMT
Rachel Maclean, the safeguarding minister, told Sky News' Kay Burley:
Ah, so it's that simple!
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Post by Dougs on May 16, 2022 11:23:54 GMT
Discovered that my mum's gas bill is likely £8-900 light after she had a new meter installed but no one told her supplier. Oh fuck.
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Post by elstoof on May 16, 2022 11:23:59 GMT
People should just get better paying jobs. Crisis averted. How long have you worked in govt policy
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Post by H-alphaFox on May 16, 2022 11:39:57 GMT
People should just get better paying jobs. Crisis averted. How long have you worked in govt policy Well I've been on the flibble flabble for a period and wandered the orient but I do thus declare no dogs where harmed in the preceding time frame mentioned.
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Post by dfunked on May 16, 2022 11:45:16 GMT
So there'll be quarterly energy cap changes now to allow them to change more quickly when energy prices go down.
Why do I have a feeling it'll be a long fucking time before we see them going down.
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Post by elstoof on May 16, 2022 11:50:36 GMT
Same with petrol, they’ll whack the prices up as soon as the oil (which they control prices of) rises, then stay put once it goes down
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Post by zagibu on May 16, 2022 12:06:57 GMT
Rachel Maclean, the safeguarding minister, told Sky News' Kay Burley: Ah, so it's that simple!
Why should I grow the economy? I don't care about rich people's yacht money. Also, who's going to take the worse paid job I'm moving out of?
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Post by anephric on May 16, 2022 16:26:31 GMT
You need to work harder or work smarter!
If you do one or the other, and it doesn't work, then it should have been the other one you did, dummy!
Or, er, both. Do both.
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Post by sport✅ on May 16, 2022 16:34:45 GMT
Just some inspiration for you poor folk
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Post by zagibu on May 16, 2022 16:58:25 GMT
Weird capitalization and idiot apostrophes. Good JOB's.
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Post by Reviewer on May 16, 2022 17:06:12 GMT
Think having a father that owned an emerald mine probably helped a little.
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Post by anephric on May 16, 2022 17:09:24 GMT
You lot need to be burning that 3am oil.
Kids to look after? HA! Be like Elon and bin them off ten minutes after your current maturation chamber has popped it out.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on May 16, 2022 17:12:23 GMT
Same with petrol, they’ll whack the prices up as soon as the oil (which they control prices of) rises, then stay put once it goes down We can't release the oil reserves or increase production as that might actually lower the price. Saudi Aramco only made 110 billion. That's barely enough to build another 10 idiotic desert skyscrapers!
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Post by elstoof on May 16, 2022 18:41:05 GMT
I keep filling my car up and praying it helps restart the Jeddah Tower build 🙏🙏🙏
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Post by Danno on May 16, 2022 19:14:46 GMT
I had to look that up.
Sounds like fun.
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Post by elstoof on May 16, 2022 19:20:21 GMT
Name a better place for a 1000m skyscraper. I’ll wait
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Post by sport✅ on May 16, 2022 19:59:43 GMT
Tbf, if it collapses, it ain't hitting squat.
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Post by Danno on May 16, 2022 20:12:11 GMT
Name a better place for a 1000m skyscraper. I’ll wait Wiki says there 120 acres of awesome happening around it Is it. Is that... it's already leaning?
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