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Post by fourwisemen on Jan 15, 2022 12:52:35 GMT
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Post by TheSaint on Jan 15, 2022 13:03:54 GMT
I have a Dell 34” curved ultra wide which I haven’t really had any issues with.
The M1 macs have a lot of compatibility issues with big monitors in my experience. I get random black screens every now and then. But it usually only lasts a second or two (no issues when my pc is the source so it isn’t a monitor issue).
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Post by 111 on Jan 15, 2022 13:05:24 GMT
Productive at what?
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Post by fourwisemen on Jan 15, 2022 13:44:55 GMT
General MS suite stuff, not graphic design or photoshop.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 14:27:26 GMT
I have a super ultrawide (49” 5120x1440) and it’s terrific. Having a ton of things open side by side is definitely a benefit for what I do, and as an added bonus it’s great for games if you have the specs to hit those resolutions.
Works fine with both my PC and MBP
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Post by Zomoniac on Jan 15, 2022 14:29:25 GMT
I don’t get ultrawides. Low res and massively expensive. Had a £900 Asus 38” 3840x1600 ultra on loan for the last year. Recently had to return and replaced it with a £300 32” 4K Dell. More pixels, less screen door, fraction of the cost, and I much prefer it.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 14:41:53 GMT
That’s probably just down to panels and manufacturers. Asus make shitty monitors, Dells make decent ones. Mine’s a Samsung and pixel density is fine, as is ramping it up to 240hz without loss of clarity or weird flicker that some monitors get.
I mostly use it with one device but lately have been doing a lot of PiP between work and home devices.
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Post by 111 on Jan 15, 2022 14:54:39 GMT
This may be a stupid question but what's the advantage of getting an ultrawide rather than something with the same horizontal width but with more vertical space?
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 15:06:05 GMT
Vertical space tends to be somewhat wasted when you’re that close to a monitor of that size, as our eyes prefers horizontal expansion at close ranges. When you’re sitting ten+ feet away it’s different. Plus it’d be pretty hard to find a 49” 16x9 monitor in my case.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 15:12:49 GMT
Ultimately though it really depends on what you do. If you spent all your time in one or two applications and rarely at the same time it’s not really worth it. If you have multiple things open you have to pay some attention to, you can pack them in without the gaps of multi monitors. I can fit in three browser windows, Teams, and Outlook without them being cramped or alt-tabbing about.
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Post by Phattso on Jan 15, 2022 17:15:16 GMT
I’m in one of the other PC threads talking about this very topic. My workplace had bundles of hotdesks with ultra wide monitors and they’ve been a game changer for my work. Software development with a dollop of paper pushing work and middle manager type horseshit from time to time.
I’m now looking to replicate the setup at home.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 15, 2022 17:19:14 GMT
Just remember, kids, if you’re on a teams call with an ultrawide, share the application, not the entire fucking screen.
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Post by Zomoniac on Jan 15, 2022 17:30:06 GMT
I still don’t get it. A 5120x1440 49” one has fewer pixels than a 4k. Anything lower has less. I can’t find a single ultrawide that has more screen space than a standard 16:9 4k, let alone a 5k.
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Post by Phattso on Jan 15, 2022 17:35:02 GMT
It’s not about pixels. It’s about screen real estate. For text editors it’s not like you need dense pixel density. But I want five windows open side by side. Which I can’t do 16:9.
Hell, my laptop is 16:10 already in an attempt to eke out more screen space.
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Post by Zomoniac on Jan 15, 2022 17:40:33 GMT
Only if you need narrow and tall windows though. I tend to work with four things, each corner, and can go to six if needed, three top and three bottom.
Disclaimer: I’m 37 and my eyes haven’t started going yet, so I have my scaler slider set to Most Space. If I needed things bigger I might feel differently.
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Post by Phattso on Jan 15, 2022 17:43:57 GMT
Well yes. Very clearly it depends on your use case. I write code. It’s a great fit. Amazing for more immersive gaming too. If the literal pixel count matters to you there are 5K x 2K 21:9 monitors out there.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 15, 2022 18:12:45 GMT
I'm interested in this, I use a Dell U2715H 27" 1440p Monitor and always have loads of shit open in parallel (docs, IntelliJ, linux terminals, skip sessions etc.) so more stuff side by side is tempting and as hopefully I'll be WFHing the vast majority of the time, worth getting something better.
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Post by 111 on Jan 15, 2022 18:37:15 GMT
It’s not about pixels. It’s about screen real estate. I want five windows open side by side. Which I can’t do 16:9. Why not? If the 16:9 monitor was the same width as what you're using now? Wouldn't that give exactly the same horizontal real estate for fitting things side-by-side, but each of those things would also have more vertical space?
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here because I just don't get why it's any more accurate to see an ultrawide monitor as 16:9 with extra bits on the sides rather than a 16:9 with bits cut off the top and bottom?
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 18:47:45 GMT
They tend to be physically wider. A 32” ultrawide is still wider than a 32” standard, as the measure is on the diagonal.
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Post by 111 on Jan 15, 2022 18:51:13 GMT
They're sold that way but that's irrelevant, surely? Which is why I've kept referring to horizontal width - whatever the actual horizontal width of an ultrawide monitor that one may be using, wouldn't it better to have one the same horizontal width but taller?
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 18:53:27 GMT
Space becomes a factor then. To replace my current monitor with a 16:9 equivalent would be a 55” screen (possibly larger, I haven’t directly measured). I don’t think they even have PC monitors that size, at least not at the price and visual quality range the G9 provides.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 19:01:09 GMT
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Post by 111 on Jan 15, 2022 19:01:43 GMT
Would it not be just filling space that's currently empty above and below your monitor...? Related stupid question - when you say they don't do 55"+ screens as "PC monitors", what's the difference between a "PC monitor" and a TV in this context then?
Edit: Looking at the top image I guess I'm just not seeing what the advantage is of having that space below the monitor - i.e. it's great because it's mahoosive, rather than because of the shape. I guess I can see an aesthetic perspective of "if you want a really massive monitor, you might just prefer it not be very tall", I just never quite get the "it *gives* you space that a 16:9 can't argument.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 19:04:42 GMT
TVs have a ton of image processing, and have panels designed around constantly moving images and the viewer being ten foot+ away. Which would be fine if we’re talking gaming, but we’re talking general work/productivity here which is usually static screens. There’s a bit on that in the article I linked to above.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 15, 2022 19:12:35 GMT
i.e. it's great because it's mahoosive, rather than because of the shape. I guess I can see an aesthetic perspective of "if you want a really massive monitor, you might just prefer it not be very tall", I just never quite get the "it *gives* you space that a 16:9 can't argument. I mean, if you have a 60” TV, try standing a foot or two away from it and seeing if you can stand it for long. That’s really the difference for me, it’s a giant monitor that isn’t overwhelming and lets me have a ton of stuff going on at once. I don’t see it as taking away vertical space compared to a similar width monitor, I see it as giving me a ton more horizontal space compared to a similar height one.
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Post by fourwisemen on Jan 16, 2022 17:42:56 GMT
Interesting to see the different perspectives on this. Seems like no detrimental issues on using an ultrawide curved monitor.
What I need to decide is, considering I’ve been using a 5k screen in the iMac, can I drop down to 1440p?
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Post by timmywimmywoo on Jan 16, 2022 18:09:28 GMT
I've done the same thing as the OP - I've binned my old 27" iMac and replaced it with a new 16" Macbook Pro. I've gone for the LG 38" thingy... the LG 38WN95C-W. It's wonderful - it took a bit of getting used to because you can see the pixels a bit (I had a 5K iMac), but it's still pretty sharp, very bright and seems to have decently neutral colours (I do a lot of Lightroom and Final Cut Pro). Best of all, you'll only need one USB-C cable to connect your MBP, and it can charge it and run video/sound over that one cable.
I also used it as an excuse to build a PC, so I run that into it too. It's 144hz as well, which is lovely when using MacOS with the correct mode selected on my Mac.
I find myself using two windows side by side much like on my iMac, but I still have loads of exposed desktop space left to store/drag files into programmes, which I find quite handy.
I managed to snag a refurbished one from eBay. They're quite expensive new.
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Post by myk on Jan 17, 2022 14:54:36 GMT
What I did was go for the 48CX, but have a cheap 42" LCD next to it (which is fine at 1080P as it's that much further away).
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Post by Vandelay on Jan 17, 2022 15:27:46 GMT
I had this same concern when going for ultra-wide about a year and half ago. I heard lots about how great it was for gaming and immersion, but wasn't sure how nice it would be for working on. As I was working from home most of the time, it needed to be able to accommodate that as well.
Needn't have worried as it is delightful. I now have an LG 34" 1440p ultra-wide and it is a big difference from my old 27" 1440p. Can easily have multiple emails, spreadsheets, Word docs and Teams (although I normally just have that on the laptop screen) open without any difficulty.
Feel it was a much better choice than 4K, which at the time was really difficult to buy at a sensible size. Most seemed to be either 28", which would require scaling and defeat the purpose of it, or needed to basically be TV size, which would be ridiculous on my desk and likely uncomfortable to sit in front of.
The alternative to this is to have two 16:9 screens, which might offer slightly more flexibility. I know quite a few are used to that set up and might find they lose screen real estate going down to one, even if it is ultra-wide. You could get two ultra-wides and I've seen pics of set-ups that look pretty good like that (often with one on top of the other), but that would be quite pricey.
Re: sharing windows on Teams, I always move it over to my laptop. Most people seem to either just use their laptop screens or have a 1080p monitor, so they always complain everything is too small if I share it from my big screen. I can't imagine how people just work from a laptop screen all day.
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Post by crashV👀d👀 on Jan 17, 2022 15:35:32 GMT
I proposed this question in the pc thread because I have 2 X 1440p displays but now have 1 rotated into portrait as I find it easier to Dev on with the taller viewport and less scrolling. This left me with a single 1440p for everything else (office,teams,outlook, multitude of company systems I need to use) and is a pain in the ass if I'm honest
Additionally, it seems a waste to have my rog gaming gsync panel in portrait but replacing it means the ultrawide now needs to have the gamery bells and whistles too and if I'm spunking a load of cash on it I want something with some life in it.
'tis a pickle.
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