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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 22, 2024 9:22:00 GMT
She seemed pretty cool and did a lot of good stuff, such as appearing on iCarly  , but I do wonder if her running would be a net benefit or loss when it comes to motivating democrat voters vs motivating trump voters. I suspect it'll be Biden though. Somewhat bland and middle of the road though he is, that's also the thing that probably makes him less of an intrinsic threat to the fragile world view of Trump supporters. |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 22, 2024 9:40:57 GMT
Her being Obama’s wife doesn’t mean she has no merit beyond that. She’s a brilliant woman and a very credible leader. Perhaps more so than Obama was. I agree! I'm just saying there's a perception that American presidential politics is too focused on dynasties, and that might affect her viability even if she has objective merit. (which I think she does, her story is actually pretty inspirational) |
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Post by zephro on Jan 22, 2024 10:15:47 GMT
A lot of DeSantis supporters don’t like Trump that much, so him withdrawing could end up closing the gap between him and Haley. As much as he likes to paint Iowa as a big win, it was far from a walkover and doesn’t show much in the way of shifting his base. Moderates and young voters didn’t favor him, nor did most single issue voters. It was also a super low turnout, which makes percentage differences look bigger. NH will really be the bellwether to watch. Yeah this. The sooner they get to Trump Vs not Trump the better. it'll become clearer whether he has 50% or is just the single most popular candidate in a large field. Plus a bunch of the primaries include swing votersm |
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 22, 2024 10:41:08 GMT
It is interesting that a while ago he was pretty close to Trump in the polls. It wasn't that long ago that Trump wasn't all that popular, even among the Maga lot, and you got the sense they thought of DeSantis as an alternative.
But it feels like all the lawsuits against him have coalesced the support back around Trump, and he now seems about as popular as he ever was among that side. It doesn't seem like he's done anything particularly impressive to achieve it, or that Ron did anything particularly wrong.
But if they like Trump again then they don't really have a need for alternative Trump.
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Post by Ulythium on Jan 23, 2024 23:22:25 GMT
Any chance whatsoever that Trump doesn't effectively sew up the Republican nomination in New Hampshire today?
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 24, 2024 0:06:42 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 24, 2024 0:41:04 GMT
Slight difference in opinion here:
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Jan 24, 2024 2:23:16 GMT
Update: he won. Not by a huge margin, but by enough. So yeah, unless the courts or God intervenes, it's going to be Trump again. Probably against Biden again. |
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Post by Onny on Jan 24, 2024 6:18:20 GMT
Well let’s hope that before Trump wins and our world hastens down its death spiral we get to hear Biden tell him to “shut up” one more time.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Jan 24, 2024 13:36:54 GMT
It does feel like with the current momentum Trump is going to win.
Be interested to see how that validates his policy decisions. Feels like the moderates that tempered his previous presidency are going to be steam rolled.
Fuck China and Build a Wall.
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Post by senso on Jan 24, 2024 14:51:33 GMT
Trump is looking likely to win in November according to various polls that have been conducted in the past few weeks. Could all change of course by the time the polling stations open but he is cruising to victory in the GOP nomination race so his supporters are strongly fancying their chances.
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Post by gibroon on Jan 24, 2024 14:59:27 GMT
I used to care about the orange man getting into power again but I do not anymore. Let him have his 4 years, wait, does this mean he could actually run for another 8 years if he won?
/ we are fucked
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Post by askew on Jan 24, 2024 15:01:47 GMT
Not constitutionally, but as we’ve seen the US Constitution means jack-shit to him and his cronies.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jan 24, 2024 15:02:43 GMT
The election is so far away that it seems kinda meaningless to take anything from poll results at the moment. So many things could happen between now and November, such as one or both of them dying.
They seem pretty close in the polls, trading places at times, so it's all a bit random until nearer the date.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 24, 2024 15:03:57 GMT
Polls are meaningless even up to the date, that’s been proven pretty solidly in the past decade.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Jan 24, 2024 15:34:03 GMT
If something like 40% of Republican voters are voting against him in primaries there's plenty who'll likely not turn out on polling day. And it's very rare for incumbents to not make gains as an election nears, as Don't Knows choose keeping the status quo over change.
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Post by kal on Jan 24, 2024 15:34:30 GMT
Not constitutionally, but as we’ve seen the US Constitution means jack-shit to him and his cronies. Oh really? I assumed a second Presidency doesn’t count as a second term. |
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 24, 2024 15:41:43 GMT
Two term limit whether consecutive or not.
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Post by kal on Jan 24, 2024 15:48:12 GMT
That’s something at least.
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 24, 2024 15:54:16 GMT
Remembering that Russia used to have limitations on how long someone could be president too so that's why Putin became prime minister as he'd hit the limit.
Constitutions only matter if you've got people who'll keep to them and strong enough checks and balances to keep them to it.
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Post by apollo on Jan 24, 2024 16:22:27 GMT
trump supporters saying why they are voting for him usual insane comments but the comments of miranda blair are dumb despite claims she voted for obama
republicans don't give a fuck about you, also it not biden's fault prices are higher right now
fucking lead paint drinker there
Also Trump was rambling about Forts a few days ago like an evil grandpa simpson
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Post by Tuffty on Jan 24, 2024 16:58:52 GMT
Also don't forget Trump has some idiot coke addicted sons of his own that like to get in the political limelight. So Trump senior might not be able to run any more but think Trump voters would be all too happy to have a nice Dynasty going for the next decade or so
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jan 24, 2024 19:37:41 GMT
Also don't forget Trump has some idiot coke addicted sons of his own that like to get in the political limelight. So Trump senior might not be able to run any more but think Trump voters would be all too happy to have a nice Dynasty going for the next decade or so Maybe however I don't think that his sons, especially Eric who is truly thick, have that innate charisma or that intensely narcissistic personality that would draw people to them. |
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Post by JuniorFE on Jan 24, 2024 19:41:08 GMT
Also don't forget Trump has some idiot coke addicted sons of his own that like to get in the political limelight. So Trump senior might not be able to run any more but think Trump voters would be all too happy to have a nice Dynasty going for the next decade or so Maybe however I don't think that his sons, especially Eric who is truly thick, have that innate charisma or that intensely narcissistic personality that would draw people to them. If it's all the same to Americans I'd rather not risk it, so let's not put *any* Trump in the White House again please and thank you |
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Post by apollo on Jan 24, 2024 19:54:31 GMT
Trump thanks Vietnam Vets for winning Desert Storm
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Post by cubby on Jan 24, 2024 19:58:40 GMT
Jon Stewart's coming back to The Daily Show! Hallelujah!
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Post by JuniorFE on Jan 24, 2024 19:58:52 GMT
Wait, but wasn't Desert Storm-
*Verifies*
Iraq. Of course. (And a couple decades later, but who's counting)
Say what you will about Trump, he's consistent in his stupidity...
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Post by Whizzo on Jan 24, 2024 20:01:46 GMT
JFC.
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Post by apollo on Jan 24, 2024 20:18:12 GMT
Next week's ramble:
thanking the army vets for the battle of Endor, great battle, so many ww2 pilots in their xxxwings....
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Post by X201 on Jan 24, 2024 20:19:03 GMT
Did he dodge the draft for that one five times as well?
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, but I do wonder if her running would be a net benefit or loss when it comes to motivating democrat voters vs motivating trump voters. 
