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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 15:58:08 GMT
Obviously need a new version of this thread, as even if he doesn't make a political comeback, he's living rent-free in all of our heads for the next few years. I failed to spot the statement he put out the other week on the performance of the US Women's Football team at the Olympics.
So Presidential.
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Post by deebs on Aug 14, 2021 16:42:44 GMT
Oh so apparently, yesterday saw the day come and go that the qanon rubes had set in stone (again) as the day trumpy would be reinstated.
I dunno, I really have to hand it to them. A lesser man would have walked away by this point, but these guys just keep hanging on to their fascist overlord dream. Bless em.
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Post by deebs on Aug 14, 2021 16:50:50 GMT
Mike Lindell's much hyped CYBERSYMPOSIUM that was meant to prove that china had hacked the election but boiled down to him scrolling through random files with a hex editor, excitedly pointing at meaningless strings of characters. He then proceeded to have a melt down. And Dominion are suing him for defamation.
Fav soundbite from a qanon who was there: "Well the guy makes a fantastic pillow, but, er. This just wasn't well put together."
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Post by creepyloungelizard on Aug 14, 2021 20:20:18 GMT
He's like a redneck crack smoking Basil Fawlty
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Post by paulmci27 on Aug 14, 2021 20:29:11 GMT
Donald Trump is unquestionably a ginger cunt a total sociopathic degenerat, but he's almost saintly compared to Joe Biden. An extra 12 billion to spend on the military pulls out of Afghanistan leaves 10s of thousands to be slaughtered.Think of all those females encouraged to get educated God knows what will happen to them. He's now dropping bombs in Somalia one of the poorest countries in the world. At least the bad man isn't saying mean things on twitter anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 20:44:58 GMT
Donald Trump is unquestionably a ginger cunt a total sociopathic degenerat, but he's almost saintly compared to Joe Biden. An extra 12 billion to spend on the military pulls out of Afghanistan leaves 10s of thousands to be slaughtered.Think of all those females encouraged to get educated God knows what will happen to them. He's now dropping bombs in Somalia one of the poorest countries in the world. At least the bad man isn't saying mean things on twitter anymore. There is no way on Earth that Biden is anything other than a fuckton better than Trump. It's nice to be able to go through a day without wondering whether the most powerful man in the world has tweeted that he's going to nuke Chile, because he had a bad burrito for lunch.
But Biden... eh... hard to say. I get that he had no good options, but I think his decision on Afghanistan might end up defining his presidency - and not in a good way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 20:51:57 GMT
It was Trump who first told the Taliban that the US would leave by May, not Biden. The mess the Americans got themselves into started 20 years ago and has cost $1trillion and thousands of casualties. The American populace are on the whole sick of it and want out. I'm not sure how inheriting that mess makes Biden somehow worse than that orange blimp.
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Post by creepyloungelizard on Aug 14, 2021 21:00:07 GMT
Donald Trump is unquestionably a ginger cunt a total sociopathic degenerat, but he's almost saintly compared to Joe Biden. An extra 12 billion to spend on the military pulls out of Afghanistan leaves 10s of thousands to be slaughtered.Think of all those females encouraged to get educated God knows what will happen to them. He's now dropping bombs in Somalia one of the poorest countries in the world. At least the bad man isn't saying mean things on twitter anymore. Typical right wing shite pretending to care about womens rights all of a sudden. And caring about what happens to muslims? Yeah, course they do. Get the fuck out of here with that disingenuous bollocks. |
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Post by paulmci27 on Aug 14, 2021 21:32:57 GMT
I'm far from right wing. In fact I'm a member of my countries left wing party. Why would me telling the truth about people being slaughtered by right wing governments give you that idea. I've lived with imperialism my whole life seen my people be subjected to bigotry and murdered since the day I was born.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 21:34:49 GMT
Higgy?
The fixation with bombs fits.
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Post by 😎 on Aug 14, 2021 21:45:08 GMT
You seem kind of obsessed with Higgy. Do you want him to tag you in the shower or something
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 21:45:42 GMT
Not really. I just miss his slam poetry nights.
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Post by paulmci27 on Aug 14, 2021 22:00:11 GMT
I'm just not into the whole lesser of two evils shite the US has been murdering innocent people since the end of WW2. Jimmy Carter is probably the only actual human being to be president in 60 years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2021 19:00:19 GMT
Donald Trump is unquestionably a ginger cunt a total sociopathic degenerat, but he's almost saintly compared to Joe Biden. Thats insane and bullshit the trump cultists on reddit are blaming biden for the pull out but it was trump government that negotiated the awful peace deal (which the Taliban pigs never kept to) Pulling out of the country was bad idea as the taliban have retaken the countries in weeks due to the security forces running away and selling their weapons to the taliban |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 15, 2021 21:17:47 GMT
Donald Trump is unquestionably a ginger cunt a total sociopathic degenerat, but he's almost saintly compared to Joe Biden. An extra 12 billion to spend on the military pulls out of Afghanistan leaves 10s of thousands to be slaughtered.Think of all those females encouraged to get educated God knows what will happen to them. He's now dropping bombs in Somalia one of the poorest countries in the world. At least the bad man isn't saying mean things on twitter anymore. So... if he takes the military out of a country, he is wrong. But if he involves the military in another country, he is also wrong? Like, I understand that American presidents (Biden included) are usually pretty terrible on the "don't drop bombs on people" foreign policy front. But at least Biden is terrible in a normal way. The other guy literally asked one of his advisors "WELL WHY CAN'T WE JUST NUKE PEOPLE?", and it's only really through luck that he never got the excuse to try. Anyway, I support questioning Biden's choices; not enough people here do. But in the case of Afghanistan, it's fucked either way. It's a really hard question, which is often the case with foreign policy. |
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Post by Lionheart on Aug 15, 2021 21:32:14 GMT
At least there is scope to question Biden’s choices because they at least have some basis in rationality. With Trump there were very few open to question.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Aug 15, 2021 21:38:57 GMT
It's a total bi-partisan issue but I suppose we could go further back and talk to those fine people Bush, Blair et al.
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Aug 16, 2021 6:41:34 GMT
So, is this the en of US style international relations? i.e. bomb a country to hell, send troops and fuck about for waaaay to long, then pull out without having accomplished anything.
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Post by Dougs on Aug 16, 2021 6:45:11 GMT
Not sure we need another thread, already being discussed in the UK politics and Trump threads....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 7:11:48 GMT
So, is this the en of US style international relations? i.e. bomb a country to hell, send troops and fuck about for waaaay to long, then pull out without having accomplished anything. to their credit the Allied forces did train and arm the government soldiers but some just sold and stripped outposts for drug money and sold equipment to the Taliban or didn't give a fuck about their country. There was brave special forces that fought to the end and taliban pigs murdered them when they were forced to surrender |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Aug 16, 2021 8:25:13 GMT
What credit though? T for nice try?
I'm not too happy to see the rise of Gilead in any corner of the world, but I also hope this serves as proof that you simply cannot force stuff onto a country far far away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 12:09:21 GMT
What credit though? T for nice try? I'm not too happy to see the rise of Gilead in any corner of the world, but I also hope this serves as proof that you simply cannot force stuff onto a country far far away. the point is (which you are ignoring) the country had a chance and some cunts sold weapons and materials to the Taliban as they didn't give a fuck about their country The allied forces should of armed the women instead and hunted the tailban. The taliban is nothing but incel group |
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Aug 16, 2021 13:10:45 GMT
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Post by Danno on Aug 16, 2021 13:26:26 GMT
Fuck.. that video in the second tweet :/
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Aug 16, 2021 22:52:30 GMT
Yeah, it really sucks. But... it's not our country. We have some responsibility for how things turned out, and hopefully we can find some way to still help people in danger, but it's been 20 years ffs. Their government is incompetent and fucked, and that's not all on us.
I understand the commentators here who are upset about it, but they're not the ones who have to make decisions. And from what I could tell, their only alternative to what's happening now was "stay forever". In reality, we lost years and years ago; this is just confirming what we knew all along.
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Post by technoish on Aug 17, 2021 0:21:47 GMT
I guess it's showing it was a complete and utter waste of time.
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Post by caoimhe13 on Aug 17, 2021 22:07:55 GMT
Maybe saying Trump will look like a Saint compared to Biden was hyperbolic nonsense. I'm just worried people's hate for him will give Biden a free pass when he'll do evil shit not as transparent as Trump. Afghanistan is undoubtedly a no win for anyone but the way they pulled out leaving all those weapons wasn't cool maybe it wouldn't have made a difference. Sidenote in all the push back I got Somalia was glazed over.
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Post by Danno on Aug 17, 2021 22:11:59 GMT
A lot depends on what the USA foreign policy is in the next 3 years. Trump only craved adulation, which dictators were happy to provide because it was free to them but resulted in a lightening of sanctions.
If the dronestrikes start back up and troops get launched somewhere under Biden it will not look so good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:33:36 GMT
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Post by aubergine on Aug 22, 2021 14:36:42 GMT
With regards to Afghanistan, the US spent 2.26 trillion dollars on it. That’s 300 million dollars every day for twenty years.
70% of American voters wanted America out of Afghanistan. It had overwhelming bipartisan support from the public. Perhaps seeing the result of it will make a bunch of people say they actually didn’t want it, or could have done it but better, but the fact is, they didn’t do it. Trump made a big deal out of pulling out, and had four years, but he didn’t do it. He DID draw down numbers from 15,000 to 2500, and he DID negotiate directly with The Taliban without bothering to involve the Afghan government, which is fucking stunning but that’s Trump every day.
Because Bush Junior spilt America’s focus between Afghanistan and Iraq, they basically failed to finish the job and The Taliban have spent decades recruiting the local incels with promises of forced marriage once they have guns at everyone’s heads.
What the US should have done is train and arm all the women.
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