Tom Clancy’s US Politics Thread

I am hopeful for the Georgia thing.

But the other stuff feels pretty weak sauce to me. Like, out of all the shit he's done, prosecutors are going to get him on... improperly categorising a hush payment? And improperly storing some documents? Feels like a reach imo.

I don't think Trump will ever see the inside of a jail cell. He'll be dead before it happens.

Would love to be wrong, though.

Calling the classified documents case "improper storage" is a bit like calling the war in Ukraine a minor territorial dispute.

Given he was keeping actual nuclear secrets at his country club to do God only knows what with after getting his lawyers to flat-out lie and say they'd all been returned, I'd say it's up there with some of the more serious things he's done.

They weren't mishandled though, they were stolen. Trump admitted as such with this whole "I declassified them with my mind" nonsense.

But yeah, it's not worth getting into the weeds with this. My point is that it goes far beyond a storage issue, and if it is what finally sees Trump behind bars, then I probably wouldn't complain too much.

I absolutely agree he is incredibly unlikely to see any jail time for this or anything else.

Except we do. It was widely reported that a significant amount of material the feds found was marked “oh fuck no” level of top secret, meaning it should only be viewed in a particular room and never leave the room. The stuff about the nuclear secrets of other countries is highly compromising to America because stuff like that points not just to what they know, but how they know it, as well as damaging their alliances etc because the fuckwits let President Hamburgular walk out with it.

This is one of the counterpoints that came up with the classified stuff Biden and Pence had. The classification level of their documents has never come up, but I’m suggesting that, if those documents were serious that would have come out. They have a problem with the over-classification of papers, because it’s easier to just slap “classified” on everything rather than review every document. The handful of Biden and Pence documents were, in all likelihood, total who-cares stuff, like the White House toiletries requisition, that just slipped in. 

We know details, yeah. But there's more we don't know, and will probably never know. Again, it's not insignificant! But imo not the most important thing to indict him for. (I'll still take it though)

By the by, I genuinely think Trump has warped our perception of scandal. He's been such an outrageous piece of shit, so consistently, that even run-of-the-mill corruptions take on outsized importance. There's just so much bullshit that it's difficult to sort it into piles.

edition.cnn.com/2023/03/18/politics/donald-trump-manhattan-da-arrest-protests/index.html

Well, that would be most welcome. And I have a feeling nobody will give a shit, not even his fanboys.

President on parole.

I think the full title is

Puh-lease Academy 3: President On Parole

Orange is the new black?

It's real life Don't do what Donny Don't does.

(I imagine this has been said before)

Pfft, obviously fake. Trump can't run.

Anyway, the problem with the hush money indictment is that, unless more damning details are revealed, it's pretty weaksauce. Much as agreeing with Republicans makes me want to take a cold shower to cleanse my soul, this does feel political. Political in the sense that this guy's office has limited resources, and they choose to focus on... a years-old payment to a porn star that was misclassified for some reason.

It feels desperate, like "fuck we have to get this guy for SOMETHING". And if it fails (which it probably will), it's going to be used as ammunition to argue that future indictments are similarly weaksauce, political and desperate. When in fact they are not!