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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 8, 2024 1:07:33 GMT
I imagine something like "it was Biden's fault, I inherited this and can't do anything about it" and the public will believe it.
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Post by simple on Nov 8, 2024 7:44:05 GMT
Worked for the Tories for nearly a decade
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Post by Tuffty on Nov 8, 2024 7:58:40 GMT
I get why people say "Oh he wouldn't do this" with regards to tariffs and the environment cause it seems too cruel. But at the same time, what makes you think he wouldn't? We said it about the Muslim ban before he did it. Said it about dwindling NATO support and he still did it.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 8, 2024 8:19:12 GMT
It'll definitely be different this time... Definitely.
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Post by simple on Nov 8, 2024 8:56:47 GMT
Last time they spent most of first year in chaos because they didn’t know how the place worked and couldn’t appoint or retain people in lots of key positions. This time they’re coming in forearmed and with a team of people who’ve been planning this for years.
He’s got the senate, congress and scotus in his pocket too.
I expect he’ll hit the ground running.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 8, 2024 8:59:53 GMT
Last time they spent most of first year in chaos because they didn’t know how the place worked and couldn’t appoint or retain people in lots of key positions. This time they’re coming in forearmed and with a team of people who’ve been planning this for years. He’s got the senate, congress and scotus in his pocket too. I expect he’ll hit the ground running.The only time he runs is for president, in this case it'll be more like waddling (not downplaying how bad it's gonna be, mind)
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Post by rftp on Nov 8, 2024 9:18:11 GMT
Last time they spent most of first year in chaos because they didn’t know how the place worked and couldn’t appoint or retain people in lots of key positions. This time they’re coming in forearmed and with a team of people who’ve been planning this for years. He’s got the senate, congress and scotus in his pocket too. I expect he’ll hit the ground running. Yeah, definitely. Loads of online republicans suddenly very quickly dismissing Bannon saying "Project 25 can get started now" like... "oh, he's just some podcaster. Trump fired him anyway". Right. But he carried on working for the people who own Trump anyway.
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Post by GigaChad Sigma. on Nov 8, 2024 9:26:05 GMT
Worked for the Tories for nearly a decade Works for every political party ever. Including our current one.
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Post by zephro on Nov 8, 2024 9:30:29 GMT
Our current government only just put through their first budget so it's fucking legit.
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Post by simple on Nov 8, 2024 9:39:09 GMT
Yeah, I think its probably fair in your first year. Maybe not three Prime Ministers down the line though.
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Post by zephro on Nov 8, 2024 9:42:49 GMT
Yeah, I think its probably fair in your first year. Maybe not three Prime Ministers down the line though. Depends on how bad it is. I wouldn't add an arbitrary date. But if you've not actually had time to even pass a budget or only just did it. You're by definition living with the economy you inherited.
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Post by simple on Nov 8, 2024 11:53:32 GMT
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Post by Duffking on Nov 8, 2024 15:05:45 GMT
I wonder how many of the people who voted for Trump understand that when he talks about "deporting illegals" he's using it as code for "anyone foreign born /looks foreign born and has dark skin". This is the guy who spent ages claiming Obama was actually an illegal Kenyan immigrant, if he'd do it about Obama he'd do it about anyone.
I reckon it's 50/50 people who understand and voted for him for specifically that reason, and people who don't.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Nov 8, 2024 15:11:50 GMT
Fuck them. They literally voted for it. Increased Latino vote by 10m.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 8, 2024 15:24:36 GMT
"He only means the bad ones, not me and my friends."
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 8, 2024 15:25:20 GMT
Fuck them. They literally voted for it. Increased Latino vote by 10m. Yeah, but those 10m will be "the good ones" and will be safe, surely. (/s) "First they came for the 'illegals', and I didn't speak out, because I'm not 'illegal'.", etc...
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Post by Aunty Treats on Nov 8, 2024 15:27:58 GMT
Hope spooky's doing alright over there
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Post by Tuffty on Nov 8, 2024 15:48:22 GMT
"He only means the bad ones, not me and my friends." Actually read an acocunt of a college educated Latino man who's mother is an undocumented immigrant living in the country. He voted for Trump. Claims his mother won't be affected because she wants to work. At some point you get what you deserve.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 8, 2024 16:07:42 GMT
Well, I suppose you have to make peace with the fact this is what America wants and is totally fine with everything that comes with a Trump presidency as long as there is the percived idea that things are getting better for them individually and not for the nation as a whole. I'm not saying it's wrong but this is what it is. People have no qualms with a convicted felon and rapist and comitter of treason because they promised to make petrol cheaper.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 8, 2024 16:07:46 GMT
He’s right that his mother won’t be affected, but that’s mostly becuase nothing is going to materially change from how it’s been for the last decade re immigration
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Post by rftp on Nov 8, 2024 16:41:51 GMT
So, if video games and porn are banned and women are doing a mass movement to have nothing to do with any men... How long until American males start shooting each other?
I realise that they kinda already are, but I mean. Taking it seriously...
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Post by pizzacrunch on Nov 8, 2024 16:45:42 GMT
The next generation of American serial killers will be fun at least. How long before the start finding butchered women with memes to decipher.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 8, 2024 16:55:31 GMT
Let that sink in.
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Post by simple on Nov 8, 2024 17:05:07 GMT
I forgot about banning porn and games. Do you think all the virgins who Andrew Tate got to back Trump know that’s coming?
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 8, 2024 17:05:37 GMT
The next generation of American serial killers will be fun at least. How long before the start finding butchered women with memes to decipher. "Your body, my choice" seems to be rather prevalent among the dickweeds lately
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Post by Tuffty on Nov 8, 2024 17:26:16 GMT
Nice to know Joe Rogan talked on his podcast about how voting is cool actually and the elections aren't rigged, despite having every guest under the sun peddling the lie all the way up til the election.
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Post by cubby on Nov 8, 2024 17:30:58 GMT
Notice it's absolute crickets on the election interference front now?
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Post by Duffking on Nov 8, 2024 17:39:40 GMT
I just want to say that part of me thinks that as horrible as everything Trump is going to is going to be, it may actually be worth it if he at least falls out with Musk and has him deported
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Post by Duffking on Nov 8, 2024 17:40:33 GMT
Notice it's absolute crickets on the election interference front now? Ah you see, it's because their talking about it unnerved the DEEP STATE enough to derail their plans. Or something.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 8, 2024 17:44:56 GMT
Well I mean if you watch the Daily Show bits on Youtube supporters were very upfront in saying if Dems wins it's rigged and if Trump wins it's obviously legitimate. You can't and could never reason with that and trying to call them out is just a fool's errand. I don't think the country can ever go back to where liberal democratic norms are respected and where the richest man in the world is seen as a hero fighting for the common man and anti-system. If you've ever read any Marvel 2099 stuff I'd say the county is well on its way there.
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