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Post by gamingdave on Nov 6, 2024 14:26:26 GMT
I think comparing 2016 Trump to 2024 Trump is misguided.
This time the team around him are far worse, as are his plans. He's also a bitter man looking for revenge (and a permanent get out of jail free card).
Most of us won't be directly affected by his policies - though things are going to get a lot worse for a lot of Americans. But the knock on effects of his (likely) actions on Ukraine will. Any hope of controlling climate change is looking far less likely. And it's only going to spur on more nasty right wing politics here (and in the rest of Europe) which are already worrying.
I don't think it's the end of the world. But the result leads to a more worrying future.
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Post by Duffking on Nov 6, 2024 14:26:27 GMT
The world didn't end in 2016, it won't end in 2024. No one's saying it'll definitely end, but this kind of comment is especially unhelpful. There is an immediate difference in the world's current state in 2024 than in 2016. The most obvious example is that Russia's now-probably-inevitable victory in Ukraine is going to seriously destabilise eastern Europe and embolden Russia into making further land grabs. In Gaza, a full-on genocide will effectively meet zero resistance now.
He's surrounded himself with significantly more dangerous people this time as well, and there is a genuine desire among them to hurt people domestically and ensure the damage is permanent. They have the means to do so via the Supreme Court which already has a 6-3 majority and will likely become an 8-1 majority during Trumps next 4 years.
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Post by Frog on Nov 6, 2024 14:31:48 GMT
The full on genocide in Gaza hasn't been met with any real resistance anyway.
We will see what happens with their Ukraine support, he won't want to enbolden Putin as he would come out of it looking weak.
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Post by JuniorFE on Nov 6, 2024 14:33:24 GMT
The full on genocide in Gaza hasn't been met with any real resistance anyway. We will see what happens with their Ukraine support, he won't want to enbolden Putin as he would come out of it looking weak. Among the "Better Russian than Democrat" group? If anything, they'd praise him for it... |
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Post by 😎 on Nov 6, 2024 14:57:44 GMT
The full on genocide in Gaza hasn't been met with any real resistance anyway. Which I’m pretty sure will turn out to be a major reason for lower Dem turnout. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 6, 2024 15:08:20 GMT
Stats are coming in saying Trump lost 4m voted compared to 2020 and Harris almost 15m compared to Biden. That's insane. She LOST lost.
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Post by rftp on Nov 6, 2024 15:11:15 GMT
If it is genuinely the Gaza thing, those people are in for a fucking shock and should probably stay away from the news for the next 5 years.
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Post by mikeck on Nov 6, 2024 15:15:29 GMT
Stats are coming in saying Trump lost 4m voted compared to 2020 and Harris almost 15m compared to Biden. That's insane. She LOST lost. That's mad - where did these voters go? Fucking winds me up when people don't vote. |
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Post by Lizard on Nov 6, 2024 15:15:34 GMT
Melania must be absolutely desperate for him to die.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 6, 2024 15:19:29 GMT
Stats are coming in saying Trump lost 4m voted compared to 2020 and Harris almost 15m compared to Biden. That's insane. She LOST lost. That's mad - where did these voters go? Fucking winds me up when people don't vote. The economy is pointed to as a concern for those who voted. I would imagine that would also include those who abstained because Gaza but I think that's a red herring tbh. The most logical reason is pretty much that they saw Harris as a continuation not a change. |
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Post by Duffking on Nov 6, 2024 15:27:29 GMT
I just can't see the Gaza abstentions having that much of an impact either tbh.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 6, 2024 15:28:46 GMT
He really is eminently punchable.
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Post by rftp on Nov 6, 2024 15:30:09 GMT
He really loves that joke, eh.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 6, 2024 15:31:32 GMT
He really loves that joke, eh. #strongmemegame |
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Post by rftp on Nov 6, 2024 15:34:50 GMT
Well, at least that's something. And we can look forward to them inevitably falling out in some spectacular fashion.
Kid's texted to ask if this means she has to come home now (they're over there). I think "ask your mother" is the only appropriate answer.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 6, 2024 15:42:38 GMT
Glol at elmo.
What a twat.
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 6, 2024 15:45:05 GMT
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Post by grey_matters on Nov 6, 2024 15:49:31 GMT
Huh, 65÷ going the right* direction for once, compared with other recent results.
*you know, to the left.
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Post by mikeck on Nov 6, 2024 15:52:04 GMT
That's mad - where did these voters go? Fucking winds me up when people don't vote. The economy is pointed to as a concern for those who voted. I would imagine that would also include those who abstained because Gaza but I think that's a red herring tbh. The most logical reason is pretty much that they saw Harris as a continuation not a change. It just baffles me that continuing voting for your party and keeping Trump out of power isn't more pressing than not agreeing with some of Harris' policies and abstaining. Surely ANYTHING is better than Trump in power for previous democrat voters? |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on Nov 6, 2024 15:52:19 GMT
Look at the state(s) of this chart
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Post by CHPxtreme on Nov 6, 2024 15:53:09 GMT
Hmmm. Trump to sort out the golf war*: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/articles/cwyxq53jx5noWhat's this now Rory? "We'll see," said the 35-year-old world number three. "He might be able to. He's got Elon Musk, who I think is the smartest man in the world, beside him." * probaby will have a better outcome than Bush managed. |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 6, 2024 15:53:58 GMT
It's no less batshit crazy given the opposition.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Nov 6, 2024 15:54:15 GMT
He really is eminently punchable. Because the first time he dropped that "Joke."; it went so well. If Trump does go hard on all he's been talking about, this whole MAGA movement Psyducks itself to death. Unfortunately quite a lot of people may die. |
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Post by senso on Nov 6, 2024 16:01:06 GMT
Didn't Trump attack electric cars and promised to scrap the Biden green energy plans? Musk is in for a shock if true...
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Post by sport✅ on Nov 6, 2024 16:06:24 GMT
We are now officially an interplanetary species.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Nov 6, 2024 16:07:11 GMT
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Post by robthehermit on Nov 6, 2024 16:12:10 GMT
Stats are coming in saying Trump lost 4m voted compared to 2020 and Harris almost 15m compared to Biden. That's insane. She LOST lost. That's mad - where did these voters go? Fucking winds me up when people don't vote. I've never voted in my life and don't intend to start now. Apathy ftw. |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 6, 2024 16:15:29 GMT
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Post by peekconfusion on Nov 6, 2024 16:18:24 GMT
Look at the state(s) of this chart I can't believe that the reason for that shift was due to a lack of primary or interview-dodging. Who's applying that sort of level-headed rationale and then going for Trump instead? |
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Post by elstoof on Nov 6, 2024 16:22:17 GMT
Didn't Trump attack electric cars and promised to scrap the Biden green energy plans? Musk is in for a shock if true... He did, but changed his mind just around the same time Musk gave him a load of money |
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