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Post by elstoof on Nov 6, 2024 16:24:54 GMT
I can't believe that the reason for that shift was due to a lack of primary or interview-dodging. Who's applying that sort of level-headed rationale and then going for Trump instead? People didn’t neccesarily vote for Trump instead, Democrat voters didn’t turn up so an abstention will also shift the arrow to the right |
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Post by Dougs on Nov 6, 2024 16:27:55 GMT
How has CanadaLand taken the news? A shrug and out for more moose hunting?
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Post by apollo on Nov 6, 2024 16:31:40 GMT
Sadly trump winning does affect people in the UK - The UK gov has to lick trump's button mushroom and not go against him or he will start raising tariffs (only if the UK was in some strong Union of somekind, like western european one, where we can trade without issues)
- Environment: Trump will go back on anything that helps the environmental wellbeing of the planet. More coal burning maybe
- Gaza - Sure trump will support whatever IDF does, with Biden at least there he started to call out for restraint, nothing like that with Trump or Vance. Protestors will be on the streets of the UK, blaming all Jews and causing problems
- Sure Trump will support any racist US police officer/sheriff type in the next police brutality. Sure racists will be embolden with his victory, you saw this in 2016 with trump winning- More protests over here
-Weaker NATO if the fat orange cunt turd tries to pull out of NATO. I think he will do whatever putin tells him. The EU is really weak (best they can do is send a strongly worded letter, how disappointed they are with you by the Hans Brix puppet) and UK is on its own really
Also I have Ukrainian friends at work and fucking sucks Ukraine will suffer when trump pulls American weapons (the republican filth stopped weapons going to Ukraine under Biden's presidency and Ukraine suffered
Nothing I can do but next 4 years are going to be rough on the world
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Post by apollo on Nov 6, 2024 16:33:13 GMT
How has CanadaLand taken the news? A shrug and out for more moose hunting? No doubt hiding all their bacon and maple syrup from trump invading to annex that all for his breakfast |
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Post by 😎 on Nov 6, 2024 16:35:54 GMT
I can't believe that the reason for that shift was due to a lack of primary or interview-dodging. Who's applying that sort of level-headed rationale and then going for Trump instead? People didn’t neccesarily vote for Trump instead, Democrat voters didn’t turn up so an abstention will also shift the arrow to the right Yeah, there wasn't a shift per-se, as less people voted for Trump too. It does again reinforce the idea that single-issue voters are far far far more common than people think. "person X didn't do/support y, therefore I will not vote and let Hitler take power" really does seem to be the catalyst here. |
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Post by elstoof on Nov 6, 2024 16:44:42 GMT
How has CanadaLand taken the news? A shrug and out for more moose hunting? There’s a bit of concern, it’ll have an affect here - US is by far the biggest export destination and Trump’s talking up tariffs, but that’s nothing new over his last term. Mostly it plays really nicely for the Conservatives here, ramp up border control for all the US illegals who are going to try coming here etc, immigration is a big topic right now. We had a near miss in the BC elections a few weeks ago. Normally a strongly liberal territory, California of the North, only just squeaked in against a guy campaigning to bring back plastic straws. Last BC election the Dems had 57 seats to Conservatives 0, this time round it’s 47-44 |
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Post by idgaf on Nov 6, 2024 16:47:49 GMT
Vaccines and bird flu is my concern. It's kicking off in the US dairy farms, there are human cases in farm workers and it just got into pigs (outside the farm system). The people watching the situation have already said the US isn't doing enough, so this is how the next pandemic happens when it eventually jumps into human-to-human transmission. Look up Rick Bright on Twitter.
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Post by simple on Nov 6, 2024 17:01:55 GMT
The full on genocide in Gaza hasn't been met with any real resistance anyway. Which I’m pretty sure will turn out to be a major reason for lower Dem turnout. I’m curious about this because my assumption is that the US on both sides is very pro-Israel and given the margins of Trump’s win, would opposition to Israel really suppress the Dem vote that significantly? Maybe in some areas or communities, but across the board? |
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Post by askew on Nov 6, 2024 17:03:48 GMT
Was browsing the Fishbowl for my company and it was startling to see the gloating. It’s certainly treated as a zero-sum game by some.
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Post by rftp on Nov 6, 2024 17:09:26 GMT
Vaccines and bird flu is my concern. It's kicking off in the US dairy farms, there are human cases in farm workers and it just got into pigs (outside the farm system). The people watching the situation have already said the US isn't doing enough, so this is how the next pandemic happens when it eventually jumps into human-to-human transmission. Look up Rick Bright on Twitter. Also worth noting that US food giant money has been quietly buying up British farms for a while now. |
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Post by robthehermit on Nov 6, 2024 17:17:28 GMT
Vaccines and bird flu is my concern. It's kicking off in the US dairy farms, there are human cases in farm workers and it just got into pigs (outside the farm system). The people watching the situation have already said the US isn't doing enough, so this is how the next pandemic happens when it eventually jumps into human-to-human transmission. Look up Rick Bright on Twitter. Also worth noting that US food giant money has been quietly buying up British farms for a while now. That's alright, there's going to to be a glut of it on the market over the next few years by all accounts. |
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Post by Duffking on Nov 6, 2024 17:22:12 GMT
Sadly trump winning does affect people in the UK - The UK gov has to lick trump's button mushroom and not go against him or he will start raising tariffs (only if the UK was in some strong Union of somekind, like western european one, where we can trade without issues)
- Environment: Trump will go back on anything that helps the environmental wellbeing of the planet. More coal burning maybe
- Gaza - Sure trump will support whatever IDF does, with Biden at least there he started to call out for restraint, nothing like that with Trump or Vance. Protestors will be on the streets of the UK, blaming all Jews and causing problems
- Sure Trump will support any racist US police officer/sheriff type in the next police brutality. Sure racists will be embolden with his victory, you saw this in 2016 with trump winning- More protests over here
-Weaker NATO if the fat orange cunt turd tries to pull out of NATO. I think he will do whatever putin tells him. The EU is really weak (best they can do is send a strongly worded letter, how disappointed they are with you by the Hans Brix puppet) and UK is on its own really
Also I have Ukrainian friends at work and fucking sucks Ukraine will suffer when trump pulls American weapons (the republican filth stopped weapons going to Ukraine under Biden's presidency and Ukraine suffered
Nothing I can do but next 4 years are going to be rough on the world
Tariffs and food prices etc too: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/06/donald-trump-tariffs-would-cut-uk-growth-by-half-and-push-up-inflation-thinktank-warns |
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Post by 😎 on Nov 6, 2024 17:29:39 GMT
Which I’m pretty sure will turn out to be a major reason for lower Dem turnout. I’m curious about this because my assumption is that the US on both sides is very pro-Israel and given the margins of Trump’s win, would opposition to Israel really suppress the Dem vote that significantly? Maybe in some areas or communities, but across the board? It's one factor out of many. Things like Kamala being rushed through as the nominee and people feeling like Biden was ambushed is still strong too. But the Gaza thing is more than just being pro-Palestine/pro-Israel, the muted and mixed responses (limited aid to Palestinians while supplying Israel with the weapons that makes the aid necessary, while occasionally going "oh dear that's a bit much" when there's an attack) and lack of general effort for ceasefire rankled both sides. |
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Post by apollo on Nov 6, 2024 17:39:24 GMT
Hopefully democrats can rebuild and find someone who can win against Vance (it could be trump again despite the 2 term limit, sure he mumbled he wanted to get rid of that and have him permanent president)
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 6, 2024 17:49:01 GMT
I genuinely don’t think Trump will survive a full term, talking natural causes here.
I have a semi-hope that this is like the last Tory administration, the one where people get what they deserve and then see the consequences, pivoting back next time. One thing I’ve learned growing up is that most people basically don’t develop past their teens mentally and teens don’t learn until the leopard eats their face.
That’s if we don’t get gerrymandering-max to ensure an eternal Trumpian dynasty, which he’s basically said he wants
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Post by Duffking on Nov 6, 2024 17:53:17 GMT
The funny thing now is if he does croak you get JD fucking Vance instead lmao
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Post by X201 on Nov 6, 2024 17:54:07 GMT
Hopefully democrats can rebuild and find someone who can win against Vance (it could be trump again despite the 2 term limit, sure he mumbled he wanted to get rid of that and have him permanent president) They don’t need to build what they’ve got. They need to build something new. They’re seen as the party of the rich celebs and big business. Trump has manoeuvred the Republicans from the party of the rich to the man in the street. |
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Post by rftp on Nov 6, 2024 17:54:59 GMT
Despite actually being against most of the people in the street.
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Post by apollo on Nov 6, 2024 18:04:41 GMT
Despite actually being against most of the people in the street. Yep, Just reading this reddit drivel and republican voters think trump is on their side and they will have "their best life now"
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1gl0ty4/america_will_regret_its_decision_to_reelect/
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Post by drakeypoos on Nov 6, 2024 18:07:59 GMT
The funny thing now is if he does croak you get JD fucking Vance instead lmao And I don’t think he wins an election. Is Biden gonna step down as a fuck you? |
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Post by peekconfusion on Nov 6, 2024 18:39:44 GMT
People didn’t neccesarily vote for Trump instead, Democrat voters didn’t turn up so an abstention will also shift the arrow to the right Yeah, there wasn't a shift per-se, as less people voted for Trump too. It does again reinforce the idea that single-issue voters are far far far more common than people think. "person X didn't do/support y, therefore I will not vote and let Hitler take power" really does seem to be the catalyst here. Fair enough. I guess I was addressing the assertion in the tweet as opposed to the content of the graphs. |
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Post by Mr Wonderstuff on Nov 6, 2024 18:46:52 GMT
I wonder if Biden will initiate a fuck-ton of laws to really hobble Trump. It's a common tactic at the end of an administration. Probably won't work as the Supreme Court will bow to whatever Trump wants to do anyway.
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Post by apollo on Nov 6, 2024 18:51:48 GMT
America Deserves Donald Trump. The World Doesn’t.
worth a quick read
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Post by Saul1138 on Nov 6, 2024 19:22:43 GMT
I look forward to the end of humanity and giving the animals another chance.
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Post by rawshark on Nov 6, 2024 19:23:27 GMT
Typical turnout of conspiracy theory idiots turning out on the channel 4 coverage who believe they won because they fought back against schools being forced to instal kitty litter trays in bathrooms. Absolute dickheads.
For those who aren’t aware, makeshift bathrooms that are similar to kitty litter were stalled in some schools, but not to accommodate students who “identified as cats”. It was in case the school went into lockdown due to an active shooter and bathrooms were inaccessible. Everything you need to know about modern America right there in that anecdote.
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Post by Whizzo on Nov 6, 2024 19:52:44 GMT
I wonder if Biden will initiate a fuck-ton of laws to really hobble Trump. It's a common tactic at the end of an administration. Probably won't work as the Supreme Court will bow to whatever Trump wants to do anyway. Biden should just shout "I'm the President of the United States and as part of my responsibilities I do this to protect the Republic" then shoot Trump in the face.
Thanks SCOTUS.
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Post by zephro on Nov 6, 2024 20:04:45 GMT
Stats are coming in saying Trump lost 4m voted compared to 2020 and Harris almost 15m compared to Biden. That's insane. She LOST lost. I don't think this is true. If you look at the swing states where they've fully counted 100% turnout looks identical. They've only counted half the votes in California so far, so there's 10s of millions votes to still come in and add to those totals. |
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Post by simple on Nov 6, 2024 20:08:07 GMT
I wonder how many Trump talking points Badenoch will adopt over the next couple of years and how quickly they start being accepted as “legitimate concerns” by journalists who’ll trot them out in every interview with a government minister before the government ends up implementing a version of them in order to be seen to be doing something
(immigrations, trans rights etc)
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Post by technoish on Nov 6, 2024 20:10:35 GMT
That was pretty much Badenoch at PMQs today. She was awful.
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Post by apollo on Nov 6, 2024 20:13:13 GMT
I wonder how many Trump talking points Badenoch will adopt over the next couple of years and how quickly they start being accepted as “legitimate concerns” by journalists who’ll trot them out in every interview with a government minister before the government ends up implementing a version of them in order to be seen to be doing something (immigrations, trans rights etc) By end of this week or at least by the end of the month? the thing is trump will mistake her for a servant or someone to clean his (small) clown shoes
Also Linkedin is still a cesspool
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