hicksy
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Post by hicksy on Sept 12, 2023 6:05:49 GMT
That rain is making me moist.
With Starfield’s doors this has been the biggest generational leap in some time!
/raincoat
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Post by snackplissken on Oct 5, 2023 12:41:16 GMT
I'm sort of swaying toward this over Spider-Man, purely because it's the Halloween season. Also it's £43.95 on Shopto with £50 credit.
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Vandelay
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 5, 2023 12:45:23 GMT
I've gone with Spider-Man 2 with the Currys pre-order deal, even though I was swaying towards Alan Wake 2 initially. I'm assuming that the Epic Game Store will do their usual voucher deals in their Christmas sale, so I'm hoping to get it then.
Particularly with the PC version, feels wise to wait a little bit to make sure there are no technical issues.
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Oct 5, 2023 13:16:59 GMT
I feel like Alan Wake 2 is the higher risk for buggy launch than Spider-Man 2, but it’s more my jam.
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Post by wunty on Oct 5, 2023 13:24:27 GMT
You think? I've never actually bought a Remedy game at launch so don't know if they have form for bugs.
All I know is I'm stupidly excited for this.
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Post by aubergine on Oct 5, 2023 13:30:07 GMT
You think? I've never actually bought a Remedy game at launch so don't know if they have form for bugs. All I know is I'm stupidly excited for this. Not very scientific, just feeling based on SM2 being a major release for Sony that they have a lot riding on, and Remedy being just some guys.
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Post by snackplissken on Oct 5, 2023 13:31:35 GMT
I vaguely recall Quantum Break being a bit of a mess. But I didn't buy it day one anyway.
My main worry with Remedy games are that it's style over substance.. I really loved the first Alan Wake game though.
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Post by bichii2 on Oct 5, 2023 14:08:40 GMT
I think I've got every remedy game at launch and can't remember any issues with any of the brilliant games they make. (Awful fps in control but that was on ancient console on its last legs)
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aubergine
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Post by aubergine on Oct 5, 2023 14:12:38 GMT
I’ve really got big fingers crossed for this one. The first game had great story and atmosphere but I thought the gameplay was shit. I think they are not unaware of that critique and are returning to it with a lot more experience with gameplay. I guess now the concern I have is that the story won’t live up to the first one because all the cats are out of the bag, but it’s not impossible, I certainly enjoyed The Evil Within 2 much more than the first one.
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Vandelay
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 5, 2023 14:13:12 GMT
I think Quantum Break had issues on PC. It didn't feel great to play even when it came to it a few years later.
Control I believe was fine at release though, along with their other games. Still, outside of first-party console games, I still think it is best to wait on reviews to make sure there aren't tech issues.
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Post by bichii2 on Oct 21, 2023 16:37:46 GMT
So excited..I need to watch a recap video as even though the original is one of my favourites it's been so long I've forgotten most things.
I've also just realised I'm off work and kid free launch day.
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Oct 21, 2023 16:59:25 GMT
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2023 16:59:25 GMT
I see people are losing their mind over the pc requirements.
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Post by anthonyuk on Oct 21, 2023 17:15:15 GMT
I was wondering how the hell they'll get people up to speed who didn't play the first, their offical recap trailer does the job surprisingly well. youtu.be/k1IS7MQaSmk?si=swG4oymJiLjwwKIcAbsolutely can't wait, Remedy create worlds and atmosphere second to none in my opinion and the original game is probably in my top 3.
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Oct 21, 2023 17:27:05 GMT
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Post by Mark1412 on Oct 21, 2023 17:27:05 GMT
Torn on this. I liked the story in the first one but found the gameplay boring. But Control was fucking outstanding both story and gameplay, and this looks really good. Review embargo up soon?
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Frog
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Post by Frog on Oct 21, 2023 17:36:00 GMT
This one looks really good. The last one I was really enjoying but there were gameplay aspects that just made me give up. This one looks much more refined.
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Post by bichii2 on Oct 21, 2023 17:39:49 GMT
Just watched it..no where near enough detail for me. I'll find a much beefier recap.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Oct 21, 2023 19:23:26 GMT
I see people are losing their mind over the pc requirements. That chart with requirements was just a dumb move. Too many variables, and 4 of the 7 columns end up running at 1080p, so now you have endless posts of "I have card X and I have to run this at 1080p WITH DLSS."
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Oct 21, 2023 21:54:23 GMT
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 21, 2023 21:54:23 GMT
Yeah. To play at the highest settings you need the highest performance GPU available. Oh the humanity.
I honestly don't get the point of ray tracing. I've tried Cyberpunk with all the RT on or off in photo mode and I *still* can't tell the difference. I sometimes can convince myself maybe but I'm really not convinced I could articulate the improvement I'm seeing, and suspect it's placebo. Every game I've tried it is I just get a loss of FPS and fuck all perceptable difference. It's this Gen's anisotropic filtering.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 21, 2023 21:54:52 GMT
Also some people refusing to get it just because it's an epic store exclusive....
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Vandelay
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 21, 2023 22:18:27 GMT
The problem with a lot of what ray tracing does is that devs have gotten so good at faking it with rasterised graphics that it often isn't particularly noticeable or it is only noticeable under certain circumstances. Plus, a lot of games will say they have ray tracing, but only use it for shadows, which only give a very, very minor difference.
With global illumination you can get quite a big difference, but even then it is often only noticeable with side by side comparisons. Even with those, if you don't know what you are looking for, you may not see the differences.
I think path tracing is different though. The recent patch for Cyberpunk, with path tracing combined with the DLSS 3.5, gives a fantastic boost to the quality of the image. I would be surprised if people couldn't see the difference.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 21, 2023 22:28:20 GMT
Yeah, I could definitely tell the difference with path tracing over rasterisation, it's honestly transformative in Cyberpunk where it looks a generation ahead.
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Post by ekz on Oct 22, 2023 2:09:14 GMT
CP2077 is the only game that has graphical moments that peak above Elden Ring where it stops you in your tracks and you can't help but think 'fucking wow' (in my experience). ER is carried by its artstyle but CP has both the tech (path tracing) and a similarly wtfwow artstyle.
I imagine they then look another step above on a nice OLED display.
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Oct 22, 2023 6:33:53 GMT
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Post by snackplissken on Oct 22, 2023 6:33:53 GMT
I think Control was the first time Remedy nailed climbing/jumping. I can remember all the way back to Max Payne when you’re walking/jumping a long that blood trail.. annoying. Also Quantum Break more recently was pretty ropey.
Anyway I’ll get this on sale at Christmas. Pointless being a digital exclusive.
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Post by Fake_Blood on Oct 22, 2023 8:04:50 GMT
I don’t get Chopsens anisotropic filtering reference, it’s doesn’t negatively impact framerates much, and makes textures that are far away look much better. Hairworks would be a better example I think.
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Post by neems on Oct 22, 2023 8:18:20 GMT
Yeah. To play at the highest settings you need the highest performance GPU available. Oh the humanity. I honestly don't get the point of ray tracing. I've tried Cyberpunk with all the RT on or off in photo mode and I *still* can't tell the difference. I sometimes can convince myself maybe but I'm really not convinced I could articulate the improvement I'm seeing, and suspect it's placebo. Every game I've tried it is I just get a loss of FPS and fuck all perceptable difference. It's this Gen's anisotropic filtering. I think it's the minimum specs that are occasioning comment. RTX 2060 for 1080p 30 on low with DLSS on is... a statement. I think it's the first major release that my (extremely old, not complaining) gtx 1080 can't play.
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Post by pierrepressure on Oct 22, 2023 8:23:45 GMT
I hope they'll do a physical release with this, maybe with Limited Run Games?
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Post by Jambowayoh on Oct 22, 2023 8:25:09 GMT
Tbf Control on consoles in quality mode with RT ran with PC low settings and looked great, low doesn't always mean dogshit.
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Vandelay
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 22, 2023 9:16:31 GMT
I don’t get Chopsens anisotropic filtering reference, it’s doesn’t negatively impact framerates much, and makes textures that are far away look much better. Hairworks would be a better example I think. I can kind of understand the comparison. Again, if you don't know what anistropic filtering does (basically, make textures that are at an extreme angle less blurry - mostly evident with distant texture), then you probably aren't going to see the difference. The difference isn't that subtle when you do know to look at distant textures, but it is missable and I could see a lot of people not overly missing it if it weren't there. As you say though, the performance impact is really negliable, so there isn't much reason to not use it.
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Oct 22, 2023 9:56:53 GMT
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 22, 2023 9:56:53 GMT
Exactly that. If you don't know what you're looking for you're not going to notice it isolation.
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Post by Chopsen on Oct 22, 2023 10:04:07 GMT
Yeah. To play at the highest settings you need the highest performance GPU available. Oh the humanity. I honestly don't get the point of ray tracing. I've tried Cyberpunk with all the RT on or off in photo mode and I *still* can't tell the difference. I sometimes can convince myself maybe but I'm really not convinced I could articulate the improvement I'm seeing, and suspect it's placebo. Every game I've tried it is I just get a loss of FPS and fuck all perceptable difference. It's this Gen's anisotropic filtering. I think it's the minimum specs that are occasioning comment. RTX 2060 for 1080p 30 on low with DLSS on is... a statement. I think it's the first major release that my (extremely old, not complaining) gtx 1080 can't play. Yeah it's a return to the "bad old days" where a new major release would effectively"force" you upgrade. We've had decades of PC game tech scaling quite well, and people have got used to barely even checking the specs when buying a game as they know if will run. Just without out the fancy stuff turned on. This is not isolated to AW. Lots of games in the last year or so have suddenly upped the requirements and/or played like shit on anything is more than a couple of years old. Also, 20 series GPUs are quit old now and playing on 1080p is perfectly doable. The tone of some comments are as if anything less than 4k is an affront to their eyes.
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