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Post by Vandelay on Oct 2, 2022 10:27:46 GMT
That's insane. €1.5 mil ask for an established title on Kickstarter isn't even particularly unheard of. The compilation of YouTubers even suggests that it was reasonably far along, with voice acting done for the app, at least for the preview version. Kingdom Come: Deliverance may not be a massive title, but really surprising they couldn't drum up enough interest to make a board game happen. Seems like it must have been pretty poorly managed and perhaps trying to do too much.
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Post by rhaegyr on Oct 19, 2022 10:44:39 GMT
Anyone with experience of Sleeping Gods?
Looking for another co-op campaign game after we finally finished Gloomhaven but want something a bit lighter/shorter - this seems to fit the bill nicely.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 19, 2022 13:42:40 GMT
Many love it, but I didn’t think it was great. Massive table hog, crazy amount of upkeep (you control 9 characters regardless of player count), narratively a bit boring and the gameplay is really repetitive (everything is a shallow skill check). It’s a fantastic idea (no other game has really done that open ended sandbox gaming thing before) but in some ways feels like a prototype, gameplay wise. Gorgeous design though.
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Post by rhaegyr on Oct 19, 2022 13:50:31 GMT
Many love it, but I didn’t think it was great. Massive table hog, crazy amount of upkeep (you control 9 characters regardless of player count), narratively a bit boring and the gameplay is really repetitive (everything is a shallow skill check). It’s a fantastic idea (no other game has really done that open ended sandbox gaming thing before) but in some ways feels like a prototype, gameplay wise. Gorgeous design though. Thanks for the reply! I've already taken the plunge and asked a mate to buy it for my birthday so at least I won't be down any cash. I'll report back and let people know how I get on with it (if anyone else is consdering it). Is there any other co-op campaign board games you'd recommend? I went for this as it's a bit shorter than Gloomhaven, Descent and the like and we've already rinsed Pandemic S1 and S2.
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Post by 😎 on Oct 19, 2022 14:45:38 GMT
For shorter lighter ones that are more recent, Roll Player Adventures and Dice Throne Adventures are both excellent, imo. Though to get the best out of them you need parts of their related games (optional for RPA - you can use Roll Player to generate the characters and get a more personal feel from the experience, but it’s mandatory that you own at least one Dice Throne box for DTA).
For slightly heavier ones, Stars of Akarios is great for being a little different - it’s effectively co-op campaign X-Wing. I’m also a big fan of Folklore The Affliction, but it has significant upkeep and shines best with expansions.
My all time top co-op campaign dungeon crawler type thing is a tie between Middara and Blackstone Fortress. Though Middara is expensive and often inbetween print runs, and BSF is out of print and basically never coming back, though copies show up occasionally.
What I personally look for in a campaign game, especially a dungeon crawler, is a solid branching narrative and character customization/progression/development. Those are the primary reasons I didn’t really enjoy Sleeping Gods, the narrative is basically “go do whatever” and you don’t really progress the characters much beyond their generic pre-set roles. But if those aren’t of importance then I think you’ll have a good time with it, there’s a good game there, just not one for me.
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Post by rhaegyr on Oct 19, 2022 14:51:35 GMT
That's all really great stuff, thanks gremmi - you may have just sorted out my next few purchases (Stars of Akarios looks fantastic).
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 19, 2022 15:04:42 GMT
Another shout for Roll Player Adventures. Hard to find unfortunately, but probably my favourite board game campaign so far, and doesn’t outstay its welcome.
Bit longer and heavier, but Tainted Grail is a bit easier to pickup relatively cheap 2nd hand now and is excellent.
Middara, as grem also mentioned, is also great but a beast.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 19, 2022 15:06:49 GMT
If you like lotr, Journeys in Middle Earth is worth a look too.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Oct 19, 2022 18:57:26 GMT
Middle Earth Quest too - very Mage-Knight-y.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Oct 19, 2022 19:17:00 GMT
That’s a game crying out for a reprint. My copy got mouldy back in my crappy old flat a few years ago and I had to bin it
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 8, 2022 23:48:00 GMT
Just caught up with my parents after a recent move from the old family home and reclaimed two of the greatest board games of all time. Winner.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 16, 2022 22:53:08 GMT
I snagged a copy of that cheap retail version of Marvel Zombies the other week and chucked its impressively sleek form in my bag before we headed off to the Lake District for a few days.
What a cracking little package. $35 is a bit of steal and a perfect introduction to Zombicide for anyone who was intrigued but put off the costly boxes of plastic the core games are. Enough little tweaks to formula to make it worth a look for Zombicide veterans too. Plus it’s about $7000 less expensive than the KS version after shipping.
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Post by Zuluhero on Nov 16, 2022 23:10:01 GMT
I managed to salvage Space Crusade from my mum's attic too a little while ago.
Was in a pretty sorry state, had to throw the outer box away due to mould.
My bro and I used to chop miniatures up too, making custom game workshop stuff.
Managed to cobble together a complete game when rescuing a 40k boxset at the same time
Thankfully still had the Dreadnaught though, as well as the genestealers and androids.
Also had some success getting the crap paint jobs off by soaking everything in Dettol.
Still, kinda jealous to see how good that copy looks.
You do know how much a good copy goes for these days, right?
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Post by chuchurkt on Nov 20, 2022 20:54:02 GMT
I just want to say that 'Heat: Pedal to the Metal' is a bit good. Player turns are quick and bots are very easy to manage.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 20, 2022 21:24:44 GMT
Went on a spluuuuuuurge recently.
ISS Vanguard and Final Girl Season 1, and incoming I’ve got Weather Machine, Frostpunk, Skyrim, the rebooted Dark Souls, Museum second edition and probably some other KS I completely forgot about. Good times for the holidays.
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Post by Zyrr on Nov 22, 2022 5:01:12 GMT
Elden Ring goes live on Kickstarter today.
Keep telling myself I'm not falling for the usual Steamforged 50 expansions nonsense, but who am I kidding? I'll have clicked that all-in button before the day's out and will only regret my purchase once a box the size of a small car arrives on my doorstep.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Nov 22, 2022 8:27:25 GMT
Spent the weekend away with friends playing boardgames.
Dune Imperium was a highlight. Elements of worker placement and engine building, but just very nice to play.
I really liked how easy to read the iconography and board is - some games make it very hard to understand what every action does intuitively but this was very clear. And when cards have text or was clear and concise about what the action does, not buried amongst tedious lore.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 22, 2022 10:36:13 GMT
Anyone with any experience of Detective: City of Angels?
It looks like something I'd really enjoy but I'd have to pay a decent premium to get it at the minute.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Nov 22, 2022 15:00:44 GMT
What was the name of that sci-fi Blood Bowl clone? I can't for the life of me remember it or find it in the search.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 22, 2022 15:05:50 GMT
Anyone with any experience of Detective: City of Angels? It looks like something I'd really enjoy but I'd have to pay a decent premium to get it at the minute. It’s ok. Nice theme, but it’s torn apart gameplay wise as it’s trying to fit a one shot game (no real replay value) into three different game modes (solo, co-op, competitive), and it doesn’t quite know if it wants to be RPG lite (the “chisel” player gets to make narrative decisions), social deduction (the chisel can also bluff) or a logic puzzle, and doesn’t really excel anywhere. For a co-op crime solver, either Detective from Portal Games or Chronicles of Crime from Lucky Duck are better and more tightly designed.
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Nov 22, 2022 16:26:49 GMT
What was the name of that sci-fi Blood Bowl clone? I can't for the life of me remember it or find it in the search. Dreadball.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 22, 2022 16:35:48 GMT
Anyone with any experience of Detective: City of Angels? It looks like something I'd really enjoy but I'd have to pay a decent premium to get it at the minute. It’s ok. Nice theme, but it’s torn apart gameplay wise as it’s trying to fit a one shot game (no real replay value) into three different game modes (solo, co-op, competitive), and it doesn’t quite know if it wants to be RPG lite (the “chisel” player gets to make narrative decisions), social deduction (the chisel can also bluff) or a logic puzzle, and doesn’t really excel anywhere. For a co-op crime solver, either Detective from Portal Games or Chronicles of Crime from Lucky Duck are better and more tightly designed. Ah that's a bit of a downer - the SUSD review had me really hyped for it. To be honest I still may get it (when it's in stock) - I love the idea of different types of gameplay mixed into one and The Chisel role is the reason I wanted it in the first place. I'll only play it for the Chisel vs. Detective modes anyway. I looked at the other two games but the latter sounds very app heavy (which I hate) and the former sounds like way too much to read - bounced off Consulting Detective for this very reason. Basically I just want Cluedo on steroids.
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Post by rhaegyr on Nov 22, 2022 16:36:56 GMT
Playing Sleeping Gods for the first time this weekend and then the big yearly game of Twilight Imperium next week, can't wait.
The last game of TI we played led to my friend offering his brother outside for a fight if he attacked his ships - can't put a price on that kind of magic!
Edit - Also ordered Lost Ruins of Arnak as a Christmas present for a friend. No idea if it's any good, it's simply the highest rated game on BGG that none of us own (or have played).
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Post by 😎 on Nov 22, 2022 16:45:49 GMT
It’s ok. Nice theme, but it’s torn apart gameplay wise as it’s trying to fit a one shot game (no real replay value) into three different game modes (solo, co-op, competitive), and it doesn’t quite know if it wants to be RPG lite (the “chisel” player gets to make narrative decisions), social deduction (the chisel can also bluff) or a logic puzzle, and doesn’t really excel anywhere. For a co-op crime solver, either Detective from Portal Games or Chronicles of Crime from Lucky Duck are better and more tightly designed. Ah that's a bit of a downer - the SUSD review had me really hyped for it. To be honest I still may get it (when it's in stock) - I love the idea of different types of gameplay mixed into one and The Chisel role is the reason I wanted it in the first place. I'll only play it for the Chisel vs. Detective modes anyway. I looked at the other two games but the latter sounds very app heavy (which I hate) and the former sounds like way too much to read - bounced off Consulting Detective for this very reason. Basically I just want Cluedo on steroids. Then the Kickstarter for you just launched today!
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Post by Leolian'sBro on Nov 22, 2022 16:48:33 GMT
Just a quick warning on Chronicles of Crime - it wasn’t great when we played it and the group bounced off it pretty hard. Some of the writing is a bit shonky and the game itself is much less fun than say Consulting Detective.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 22, 2022 17:15:33 GMT
Yeah, the first few missions are skippable, they’re not great and kind of boil down to a multiplayer spot the object. The more recent Chronicles of Time versions are way better writing wise, have more of a logic puzzle feel to them, and have a cohesive strand running through them, making it feel more like a campaign game than a series of unconnected vignettes.
But also if you dislike app driven games then it’s a non-starter anyway.
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Post by Zuluhero on Nov 23, 2022 23:09:16 GMT
I am eying up the Elden Ring KS, but after being slightly burned by DS and it being difficult to imagine ER as a boardgame, I'm hesitant.
I do like how they've compartmentalized the expansions though so you can play them stand-alone, that is pretty smart.
You could get a smaller, 'cheaper' one and then expand on it if you liked it/wanted more
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Post by 😎 on Nov 24, 2022 0:20:52 GMT
I’ve got the rebooted DS incoming later this week. I didn’t dislike the original but it was certainly clunky. The boss battles were excellent, the grind to get to them some of the worst design. If it fixes it into a much better game I might jump on Elden Ring, after some shonkiness, Steamforged are definitely improving on understanding design.
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Post by Vandelay on Nov 24, 2022 8:23:19 GMT
I bought into the Dark Souls Kickstarter far too much. Played the base game probably once or twice and haven't touched any of the expansions.
I was very tempted when they did Bloodborne as well, but the Dark Souls cut was still stinging. Elden Ring is very tempting though, as it does actually look good...
I should really sell my Dark Souls. Should at least get rid of the expansions, as I can't see myself ever really playing them. Too many other games I would rather play that I haven't played enough of.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 26, 2022 4:15:14 GMT
New version of Dark Souls early thoughts - they’ve fixed a lot of it, enough that it’s legitimately decent now rather than a nice idea badly implemented. The tweaks are fairly minor in the grand scheme but take out a ton of the repetitive grind, making dice rolls more controllable and removing a lot of the luck element, tweaking things so you don’t have to spend ages recovering and kiting enemies (stamina recovers every turn now, and you can do things like block after a failed dodge, albeit with a penalty). Also has a campaign system now where you can save after every encounter and easily just pick back, so it’s easier to just have a quick game here and there.
I know how they handled the KS and how awkward the original implementation has left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of folks, and this doesn’t fix everything 100% (as far as I can tell the only thing you can bring across from the original version is characters, loot, and bosses, so it’s not a 100% conversion, but theoretically the rest could be handled by a deck of encounter cards at a later date). But it’s made it into a legitimately decent game now.
Also Weather Machine arrived today too, but waiting on the solo module so I can get used to it rather than torture my gf through heavy euro learning sessions.
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