Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 19, 2024 10:16:45 GMT
Chromes business model is driving everyone towards google services and data capture. Chromium is open source, the Chrome arm is just another big data sweatshop.
But, yes, by forcing them to sell that what is the new owner going to do when the entire business model is based around setting google as your default search engine.
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Post by rftp on Nov 19, 2024 10:26:20 GMT
Which DOJ? Seems unlikely there'll be time before everything changes, but I can imagine Gaetz' DOJ attempting such nonsenses.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 19, 2024 10:36:43 GMT
I suppose it does kind of make some sense. It’s the default search engine of the world’s default browser so if you wanted to break the monopoly, it’s a decent place to start especially if you didn’t give a fuck what happened to that arm of the business after it was divested.
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Post by rftp on Nov 19, 2024 10:57:41 GMT
Who would even buy it? I don't see where it's even a good investment for someone, unless it specifically comes with all the data and I doubt that'll be let go of easily.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 19, 2024 11:44:35 GMT
I suppose the easiest thing would be to just shutter it. Its done its job.
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Post by rftp on Nov 19, 2024 15:20:19 GMT
I imagine the DOJ would take that as a win. Not sure if the Trump admin would, though.
Not vengeance-y enough.
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Post by zephro on Nov 19, 2024 19:34:58 GMT
You'd think Android would be more of a target. Of all Google's various services.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 19, 2024 23:38:58 GMT
For those who use M365 and Copilot, have a word with your admins. Microsoft decided to arbitrarily launch copilot agents during Ignite and enable pretty much every external resource under the sun regardless of your existing settings, spreading the disablement options over about five different places.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 20, 2024 9:18:03 GMT
I'll let someone else do it. 'I told you so' has started to lose all meaning from me.
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Post by zephro on Nov 20, 2024 17:52:46 GMT
I will also remain in the told you so camp based on refusing having my devs issued with Windows machines.
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Post by rftp on Nov 21, 2024 12:51:01 GMT
My work machine is a Mac.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 21, 2024 13:04:43 GMT
My condolences.
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Post by 😎 on Nov 21, 2024 14:23:33 GMT
It’s cloud and web based so OS is kind of irrelevant.
Basically what they decided to do was force enable copilot plugins, which means people can do random stuff like hook Copilot up to their Google Drive. The plugins are also a combination of Teams apps and Power Platform connectors, which is just a nightmare to try to work out what might actually be needed and it’s easier to just nuke the lot.
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Post by rftp on Nov 21, 2024 14:24:26 GMT
Not necessary. This is by choice, I need certain command line stuff that Windows is just hilariously bad at and I'm not allowed to run Linux. Plus, I get useful stuff like battery life. There's a Windows 10 laptop too, but it's basically just a test platform for seeing how stuff behaves.
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Post by dfunked on Nov 21, 2024 14:59:43 GMT
In fairness most of my hatred towards macs is due to execs caving in and agreeing to let certain users have them (usually marketing!), but of course there's never any budget for test devices for service desk/infra. They're an absolute bastard to support if they're not properly managed.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 21, 2024 15:05:54 GMT
Its why they generally get palmed off on MSPs like Jigsaw or the company I used to work for to look after. Roll out JAMF, sit back and watch the money roll in every month.
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Post by rftp on Nov 21, 2024 15:07:41 GMT
Oh, agreed. I'm only allowed it because it never causes any support and I'm being as I'm in charge of security, it's about the most secure device on our platform.
Mine is one of two (I think) that were bought a while back for testing purposes for Infra, then ultimately abandoned a few weeks later, so I've grabbed it. They are fully loaded into InTune, MDM'd and behave as corp devices, but they're basically unmanaged beyond that except by us putting them into all the right groups. Anything that gets deployed overall goes to the Windows default group for all users and this slips by, forgotten.
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Post by zephro on Nov 22, 2024 9:55:15 GMT
I'd never buy one myself but my last job was a Mac. Was a dream doing dev work on over Windows, though Docker remains a pig on it. Got a proper Linux one now which is great. Though I've found as a dev IT especially outsourced IT tends to just leave us to it.
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Post by rftp on Nov 22, 2024 10:49:55 GMT
Obviously, personal taste and all that, but my own laptop is an Air. It's just so easy. Most everything I do with computers is complex and complicated, so I want the one I use occasionally at the weekends or the odd evening to be simple. Main desktop and everything else are linuxes, though. Linux is specifically blocked from accessing our 365 though, and I just can't be bothered to have the necessary discussion with utterly terrible people to get it allowed. The Mac is allowed so it's really a no brainer.
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Post by zephro on Nov 22, 2024 19:03:31 GMT
At my last place (with the outsourced IT) and the new one, the move to 365 basically meant you could just log in from a browser anywhere. So during the pandemic I used my Ubuntu machine for actual day to day dev work and the work macbook only came out for getting on the VPN to access a specific bit of HR which was still linked to the intranet.
EDIT: Though before that they were baffled when migrating to 365. The previous links to the exchange servers which didn't need to be on the intranet, had been found by several hundred software engineers, all those addresses got shut down for a bit which descended several departments in to absolute chaos. They'd not realised that they'd given us all admin access, to basically install any useful devkit stuff on a Mac you need it.
They also hadn't really clocked that a lot of people had just disabled the VPN on their laptops, uninstalled the managed software updates and in a lot of incidents, just wiped it with a vanilla install of OSX and re-registered it as a bring your own device to work device. As the managed update software was shit and broken and the disk encryption they did broke lots of things.
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