dmukgr
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Post by dmukgr on Jan 5, 2024 10:32:36 GMT
Work emails are my only friends, sniff
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Post by hedben on Jan 5, 2024 11:06:04 GMT
My work phone is my only phone, and that's saved me a fortune in phone bills over the years. Seeing work notifications in evenings doesn't bother me, I find it pretty easy to ignore even things that seem "urgent" until the next day - but I switch off all notifications when I'm on holiday.
It does mean that I'm a bit more wary about seeing NSFW content accidentally - I don't browse Twitter on the work phone any more for that reason (thanks for that Elon)
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2024 11:21:31 GMT
Dual phones are a pain in the arse, but you definitely need to have some kind of separation imo. I had a dual SIM phone in my last job and set up work stuff in a work profile, but that made switching off at the end of the day even harder and probably helped lead to my inevitable burnout. I've just point blank refused to have emails on anything that's not my work laptop in this job. So much better for work/life balance. Agree. My wife has started a new job and they haven't sorted her work phone out yet (well, it arrived, but locked to a different network as they bought it from an Amazon reseller). So until that's sorted, she's stuck her new work account on her phone. And is then fretting about work already before bed etc.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 5, 2024 11:26:27 GMT
Have a long, boring talk with her about time theft. Unless they are paying her to read that email at 9pm, get fucked.
I don't have a work phone or my emails on it. My compromise is that I'm in the team WhatsApp group and I have an RSA token on my auth app.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 5, 2024 11:29:15 GMT
Quite. Plus expectation management. My work phone is left untouched after 6pm latest. The world isn't going to end if I reply at 8.30am the next day.
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Post by DJCopa on Jan 5, 2024 12:39:43 GMT
The first thing I do with any phone that has my work emails is turn off notifications.
Just dip into Outlook and refresh when I want to check for an email - fuck work haunting me when I'm done for the day.
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Post by deekyfun on Jan 5, 2024 12:45:39 GMT
I just keep a hawaiian shirt nearby. If I put the shirt on, you can talk to me about work.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Jan 5, 2024 15:24:50 GMT
Also, my work phone is utter shite for anything other than basic stuff.
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Post by Lizard on Jan 5, 2024 18:10:01 GMT
They've taken away all of our desk phones on the basis that we can use Teams for everything. Obviously loads of applicants, lawyers, other public servants etc now have my personal mobile number.
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Post by zephro on Jan 10, 2024 20:57:12 GMT
I just have the notifications disabled out of work hours. Perfectly easy to ignore it that way. My old job we had a weird ass long meeting about a team charter around this stuff. Like everyone having to announce their work hours etc.
The whole thing just ended with, turn off your fucking notifications and nobody expects anything done at 9pm stop trying to micro manage everyone else or come up with more tech (they suggested writing a slack bot at one point).
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Post by X201 on Jan 10, 2024 22:58:11 GMT
They've taken away all of our desk phones on the basis that we can use Teams for everything. Obviously loads of applicants, lawyers, other public servants etc now have my personal mobile number. So they haven’t kept the desk phone numbers and assigned them to Terms voice? That way you still use your desk phone number but it rings in Teams. You can also get the Teams app on your mobile and use your desk phone number.
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Post by Lizard on Jan 11, 2024 1:17:06 GMT
They've taken away all of our desk phones on the basis that we can use Teams for everything. Obviously loads of applicants, lawyers, other public servants etc now have my personal mobile number. So they haven’t kept the desk phone numbers and assigned them to Terms voice? That way you still use your desk phone number but it rings in Teams. You can also get the Teams app on your mobile and use your desk phone number. AFAIK no. Everything is Teams only, no phones except for managers.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 11, 2024 6:45:17 GMT
Didn't have a landline when we used Google, mobile only. But when we moved to Teams, a landline number was assigned in Teams. Freaked me the fuck out. Who rings people internally these days?! Just IM me, I don't want to talk to people.
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Post by dmukgr on Jan 11, 2024 7:18:53 GMT
We both IM and ring people in teams all the time - sometimes a lot quicker with ringing, especially if sharing a screen or doc.
If it’s a landline number showing I don’t answer it though as it is always dn external call of sales people or recruiters.
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Post by X201 on Jan 11, 2024 10:30:02 GMT
So they haven’t kept the desk phone numbers and assigned them to Terms voice? That way you still use your desk phone number but it rings in Teams. You can also get the Teams app on your mobile and use your desk phone number. AFAIK no. Everything is Teams only, no phones except for managers. In Teams (desktop or mobile) go to Calls and bring up the dial pad. If you have a number assigned it will appear underneath the call button at the bottom.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 11, 2024 10:34:16 GMT
During an investigation a few weeks ago, I found out that teams automatically transcribes voicemail messages for some reason. I had a guy arse dial someone on teams mobile from the pub and bad mouth a colleague on voicemail. Its was genuinely hilarious to see a drunken rant written down.
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Post by X201 on Jan 11, 2024 14:16:36 GMT
During an investigation a few weeks ago, I found out that teams automatically transcribes voicemail messages for some reason. I had a guy arse dial someone on teams mobile from the pub and bad mouth a colleague on voicemail. Its was genuinely hilarious to see a drunken rant written down. Yep, It's brilliant for handling answerphone messages from people, who for some reason known only to themselves, will use the answer phone to leave messages that, when you evaluate them against other messages, tend to go all round the houses before they get to the point.
You can just read them in a few seconds, instead of losing the will to live while you listen to them.
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Post by askew on Jan 11, 2024 15:13:10 GMT
Microsoft-bods, is there any way to see my Outlook calendar on my phone — without installing an InTune profile, and in my own calendar app? I was hoping there might be at least a feed. I’ve invited myself to collaborate on the calendar which means I can see my busy state, but the file seems a bust.
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Post by 😎 on Jan 11, 2024 15:25:35 GMT
Depends on what level of Intune your company is using. You could throw a .ICS out and see if that’ll work, but our Intune even blocks that.
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Post by Vortex on Jan 11, 2024 16:05:16 GMT
So they haven’t kept the desk phone numbers and assigned them to Terms voice? That way you still use your desk phone number but it rings in Teams. You can also get the Teams app on your mobile and use your desk phone number. AFAIK no. Everything is Teams only, no phones except for managers. We had this happen too. The university decided to do away with all phones and use teams for everything to save money. Now we have folk yakking away loudly using head sets in the cubicle farm office spaces. No doubt because the person who decided this had their own individual office. We have also had issues with phoning for first aiders from, thankfully minor, incidents in labs. So now we have some phones in some areas, which may work for a bit, then get cut off again. Which is not helpful. It's almost as if no-one really thought this through beyond the need to save a few quid.
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Post by zephro on Jan 11, 2024 22:52:00 GMT
Who the fuck has their own personal office?
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Post by Lizard on Jan 12, 2024 4:57:30 GMT
AFAIK no. Everything is Teams only, no phones except for managers. In Teams (desktop or mobile) go to Calls and bring up the dial pad. If you have a number assigned it will appear underneath the call button at the bottom. Oh yeah, I know, but I refuse to put Teams on my personal phone - I did before and it wasn't good for me. Then I undermine that by using my phone because using Teams at your desk can be obnoxious, and also it's just easier sometimes. They could just give us work mobiles. Our organisation's tech is pitiful.
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Jan 12, 2024 9:12:41 GMT
But don't you just use a headset when using teams at your desk?
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Post by hedben on Jan 12, 2024 9:27:08 GMT
Most people's speaking-on-the-phone or speaking-on-teams voice is obnoxiously loud compared to the voice they use speaking to a real person at their desk. My office has little phone booths you can make calls in for that reason.
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Post by Lizard on Jan 12, 2024 10:05:45 GMT
Yeah, today I was trying to have a conversation with the colleague sitting opposite. Guy behind me is on Teams (a serial offender) barking so loudly we had to move away from our desks to hear each other. It's even worse when multiple people around you are in the same Teams call.
If I make a phone call I go and stand in the dark car park beyond the fire exit. Private and has the added appeal of making you feel conspiratorial.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 12, 2024 10:54:56 GMT
Do you have a cigarette on the go all time too, to complete the X-files look?
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Post by mrpon on Jan 12, 2024 12:50:02 GMT
G-Man in Half Life was based on him, apparently.
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Post by Lizard on Jan 12, 2024 20:33:48 GMT
Do you have a cigarette on the go all time too, to complete the X-files look? Sadly not, but when I'm out there I genuinely want one to complete the piece.
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Post by technoish on Jan 12, 2024 21:33:36 GMT
What's the difference between talking with a headset in Teams and talking using a previous desk phone?
My desk phone used to be the only place I could use a phone, so I did all my calls from it.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 12, 2024 21:41:00 GMT
The shift to hybrid working means more proper meetings are taking place from the desk. In the before times, calls from the desk phone tended to be shorter calls to ask a question etc and so less intrusive. Those have been replaced by IMs.
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