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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 15:50:26 GMT
Ang Lee's Hulk movie is the best superhero movie. Hulk flexes his bicep and breaks a hulk dog's jaw. 10/10. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 10, 2022 15:50:51 GMT
On top of that, music has become increasingly balkanized, and whilst I don't think it's "got shit" or anything (except for the '00s, that was mostly shit), there's less music that you can just play and evoke an entire era for most people from a generation. WRT shit music, popular music has got worse because, thanks to streaming, to achieve critical mass, it has to be as generic as possible. On the other hand, because music is easier to make, produce and distribute there is more good music than you will ever have time to listen to. But because distribution isnt centralised and gatekept through like 4 companies, its really hard for an actual band to break through like they used to and why you never get a Nirvana or an Oasis pop up anymore. There are a 100 bands out there who would have been fucking massive pre-internet that never get that A&R push. Tangentially, this is also why the headliners at festivals are always at least in their third decade. You just dont get stadium bands breaking through anymore, so you get Foo Fighters and Metallica everywhere. |
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Post by dogbot on Jan 10, 2022 15:55:21 GMT
That was in no way intended as a defence of Horizon, which I think is bang average. But everyone seemed to be creaming about MHW, which was my first attempt at the series and I was a bit gobsmacked. Gave up during the first return to the base camp. Its got a steep access point and I understand why a lot of people don't get on with it as its mechanics are stuck in the past. However a lot us played it on PSP years ago so MHW seemed like a god send compared to that. If you have friends all at a similar level you can get some serious enjoyment out of it, but it doesn't make it easy for you or even explain how to get into it properly. Yeah, it wasn't even that, really. It was the dialogue that really put me off. Go here, speak to this person. Whose dialogue will take 20 minutes because you have to press a button every time it's filled three lines into a tiny speech bubble, which I have to read, then press a button and then repeat ad infinitum. Then go to the person that person sends you to and repeat. And then... ugh, fuck that. It's the modern age, let's have speech and let people put on subtitles if they want. I appreciate it's that style of game, but it's not for me and whilst I'm sure there was fun to be had, I couldn't be arsed with the pfaffing to get there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 15:59:36 GMT
Tangentially, this is also why the headliners at festivals are always at least in their third decade. You just dont get stadium bands breaking through anymore, so you get Foo Fighters and Metallica everywhere. One of the Rammstein guitarists made this exact point a few months ago and I recall a lot of "WTF is this guy / shite band / lol / what bullshit / lol" comments under each article on the various sites that reported it. But he had a point. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 10, 2022 16:07:07 GMT
Had a look at the upcoming bands playing Wembley stadium.
Ed Sheeran, Westlife, and Coldplay.
I'm perplexed how any of those can draw in that kind of crowd, but there you go. Bland is the new big.
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Post by dogbot on Jan 10, 2022 16:10:20 GMT
I cannot for the life of me understand how Sheeran is so popular. Or Coldplay for that matter.
It's the musical equivalent of coma. It's celery on a guitar. It's a piece of blank A4 in the Louvre.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jan 10, 2022 16:15:38 GMT
Tangentially, this is also why the headliners at festivals are always at least in their third decade. You just dont get stadium bands breaking through anymore, so you get Foo Fighters and Metallica everywhere. One of the Rammstein guitarists made this exact point a few months ago and I recall a lot of "WTF is this guy / shite band / lol / what bullshit / lol" comments under each article on the various sites that reported it. But he had a point. Its true, though. The undercard has changed a bit but most festivals main stages are the same as when I was going in the 90s/2000s. I think this years Download is Korn, Iron Maiden, Kiss and Megadeth which is pretty much the same lineup as when it was Monsters of Rock. |
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Post by rawshark on Jan 10, 2022 16:16:51 GMT
Frankly, this is the fault of anyone who bought Yellow in single back in the day. Everything is inoffensive and no envelopes get pushed.
Doing the Kid Amnesia thing on PS5 recently reminded me how balls out weird those albums were. You don’t get bands who can fill a stadium doing stuff like that now.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 10, 2022 16:26:41 GMT
To be honest I don't even think stadium music needs to be weird and challenging. Actually I don't think weird and challenging really works in a large crowd. Works better in a smaller more intimate venue.
I think stadium concerts needs to have some excitement and grandiosity to justify the sense of scale. So Queen do it, Metallica do it, Rammstein do it. I know they're not that popular here but I think Muse can do it.
Stadiums need big, overblown nonsense.
Not sure I'd really want to see Radiohead in a stadium, personally. I'd rather see them in a dark cellar venue. Though I'm still not a fan of Yorke's voice.
Fuck knows how Oasis sold out stadiums with their boring shite.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 16:33:49 GMT
Conversely, the only times I've seen Radiohead (or Thom Yorke's solo group) live has been in outdoor amphitheatres and festivals, and they've been great.
also how do you champion Muse but critique Yorke's voice when Bellamy is just Aldi Thom Yorke?
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Post by askew on Jan 10, 2022 16:36:03 GMT
Maybe in the Showbiz days, but it didn't take long for their paths to diverge…
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 16:40:44 GMT
They're more space opera Queen now (or were when I last heard them), but the voice is still the same.
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Post by dogbot on Jan 10, 2022 17:01:59 GMT
Actually, I think I've been rather unfair...
I'd much rather spend a couple of months in a coma following a blunt force trauma to the head than ever listen to anything Ed Sheeran ever sang.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 10, 2022 17:02:17 GMT
Conversely, the only times I've seen Radiohead (or Thom Yorke's solo group) live has been in outdoor amphitheatres and festivals, and they've been great. also how do you champion Muse but critique Yorke's voice when Bellamy is just Aldi Thom Yorke? I'm not a massive fan of Bellamy's [quick intake of breath] voice either, but I think their *music* is much more grandiose and more suitable for a stadium than Radiohead. Whether their music has more artistic merit (whatever that might mean) is very debatable. The only album that really has a valid Radiohead comparison is Showbiz, which is towards my least favourite of theirs. I liked Kid A, it's my favourite Radiohead album as I like the glitchy electronic feel more than their earlier stuff (though OK Computer had some decent stuff). I wouldn't want to see them perform it in a stadium though, as it's more suitable for an intimate venue. All that said I just find Yorke's voice a bit annoying at times. This is the unpopular opinion thread after all. |
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Post by Ulythium on Jan 10, 2022 17:05:24 GMT
I freakin' love Radiohead. Not sure if this qualifies as an unpopular opinion or not - it sure used to! - but I've always preferred OK Computer to The Bends.
As for Muse, I haven't much cared for them since Absolution; however, I will say that the new song snippet Bellamy recently posted on social media was pretty damn good.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 10, 2022 17:07:00 GMT
The very most most popular music has always been inoffensive and bland. The level of popularity just below that is generally where music that’s decent starts to appear.
On the other hand there’s nothing wrong with bland and inoffensive if that’s what people are into.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 10, 2022 17:08:18 GMT
I freakin' love Radiohead. Not sure if this qualifies as an unpopular opinion or not - it sure used to! - but I've always preferred OK Computer to The Bends. As for Muse, I haven't much cared for them since Absolution; however, I will say that the new song snippet Bellamy recently posted on social media was pretty damn good. Same, I liked their first three and a couple of their other songs but they lost me after that. |
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Post by rawshark on Jan 10, 2022 17:09:14 GMT
Seeing Radiohead in an intimate venue is the dream, but good luck with that. Tried to get tickets for the Camden Roundhouse gig a few years back and it was impossible.
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Post by Ulythium on Jan 10, 2022 17:10:25 GMT
Seeing Radiohead in an intimate venue is the dream, but good luck with that. Tried to get tickets for the Camden Roundhouse gig a few years back and it was impossible.
Blackpool Empress Ballroom was the closest I ever got.
EDIT: Which, according to Wikipedia, is about the same size as the Roundhouse. Whoops! I could've sworn it was bigger. #InadvertentHumblebrag
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Post by simple on Jan 10, 2022 17:18:35 GMT
I think Coldplay are excellent at being a stadium band. They’re absolutely in their element and capture the mood of an audience really well.
They’re not really my thing but look at the Paralympics or that Manchester bombing tribute concert and you’ll find few better suited.
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Post by rawshark on Jan 10, 2022 17:19:12 GMT
The very most most popular music has always been inoffensive and bland. The level of popularity just below that is generally where music that’s decent starts to appear. On the other hand there’s nothing wrong with bland and inoffensive if that’s what people are into. For me, it does feel like other than a few standout artists in hip hop - Cardy B talking about her vaj etc - music just hasn't got any teeth now. There's no punk-inspired energy any more, and the bands who had that are all getting pretty long in the tooth now. I was watching a David Bowie doc the other day showing him simulating fellatio on his bandmates guitar and how people at the time were horrified by it - maybe we just have fewer barriers to knock down these days. |
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jan 10, 2022 17:24:41 GMT
There's not many mainstream artists but there are plenty of non-mainstream artists who are still quite acerbic and "punky"; who have teeth as you put it.
But they usually never get mainstream traction because of how everything works these days.
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Post by Zomoniac on Jan 10, 2022 18:29:15 GMT
The only album that really has a valid Radiohead comparison is Showbiz, which is towards my least favourite of theirs. Most of Origin felt like an attempt at recreating Paranoid Android with the dials turned a bit higher. |
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Post by Zomoniac on Jan 10, 2022 18:30:50 GMT
I would give a bollock to see Radiohead in a small venue. Seen them seven times and Manchester Arena was the smallest place.
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Post by Aunt Alison on Jan 10, 2022 18:32:48 GMT
I would give a bollock to see Radiohead in a small venue. Seen them seven times and Manchester Arena was the smallest place. What if it was your last one? |
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Post by 😎 on Jan 10, 2022 18:36:55 GMT
“Inoffensive and bland” is the tagline on Imagine Dragon’s world tour.
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Post by clemfandango on Jan 10, 2022 19:10:19 GMT
Seeing Radiohead in an intimate venue is the dream, but good luck with that. Tried to get tickets for the Camden Roundhouse gig a few years back and it was impossible.
Blackpool Empress Ballroom was the closest I ever got.
EDIT: Which, according to Wikipedia, is about the same size as the Roundhouse. Whoops! I could've sworn it was bigger. #InadvertentHumblebrag
I went to that gig too! It was brilliant |
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Post by Ulythium on Jan 10, 2022 19:11:11 GMT
I went to that gig too! It was brilliant
September 1997?
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Post by clemfandango on Jan 10, 2022 19:20:31 GMT
Just picking up on the shit music thread in here and how it has infested itself into everything. I know the exact moment everything changed. V festival 2006...
I believe Prior to 2006 all the main festivals played proper music encompassing rock, indie, alternative, folk, country, metal, dance, trance etc. Etc. But they never played shit smash hits level pop, they had their own kids festivals for that crap. Then girls aloud played at v festival 2006 (I was there), they played in one of the tents (third stage). I have never seen so many fucking arsholes trying to get into a tent to watch such shit in my life, to say it was a success would be an understatement. Then every big festival started to slowly put pop acts on the bill. Now we are in 2022 and most festivals are now primarily made up of pop acts with all the other music genres playing second fiddle. It’s like a sick joke....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 19:24:32 GMT
I think it was long before that. Late 90s when people started crying to metal and punk guitars, and then the poppier clone bands that followed. I'm blaming emo, is what I'm saying.
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