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Post by Zomoniac on Nov 23, 2021 9:39:54 GMT
I feel like my original point has been lost here. Even if we had infinite resources, world peace and climate change wasn't an issue, I still wouldn't want a child because they are fucking horrible little things. That's the point I thought you were making when I agreed. Cannot stand them in any circumstance. |
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Post by harriselhoff on Nov 23, 2021 9:40:36 GMT
People who don’t like children are just jealous because they’ve never had sex.
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Post by mothercruncher on Nov 23, 2021 9:42:03 GMT
Did people who hate kids self-flagellate when they were young I wonder? I self-flagellated constantly as a teen. And then I did it into a woman and had a kid. |
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 23, 2021 9:42:59 GMT
I suspect the vast majority of parents secretly agree with me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 9:43:00 GMT
People who don't have children don't realise they're missing out on a gaming parter who can be summoned with a simple rallying cry.
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Post by Tonka (🐑,🪤) on Nov 23, 2021 9:44:42 GMT
The only correct way to orient toilet paper is with the free end hanging against the wall. Much neater. We have a winner. Completely unexpected to. Like saying front doors should open inward. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Nov 23, 2021 9:45:01 GMT
I feel like my original point has been lost here. Even if we had infinite resources, world peace and climate change wasn't an issue, I still wouldn't want a child because they are fucking horrible little things. That's the point I thought you were making when I agreed. Cannot stand them in any circumstance. If it helps, your own child is great, other peoples kids continue to be absolute shitheads. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 9:45:15 GMT
The only other person I've seen so vehement in his claims to not like children is Jimmy Saville. Make of that what you will.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 23, 2021 9:45:31 GMT
People who don't have children don't realise they're missing out on a gaming parter who can be summoned with a simple rallying cry. Your controller is all sticky I bet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 9:46:00 GMT
I suspect the vast majority of parents secretly agree with me. That's the trouble. None of them will. Something changes in your brain and you have much more patience for them. It's like having a dog. I fucking hate them and would happily punt every single one of them into the river. Except if I had one, I'd love every dog I passed. But because I don't, I hate them, and their smug cunty owners. "He's only being friendly" "Like I give a shit. Get your filthy fucking beast away from me before I boot it."
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Post by dogbot on Nov 23, 2021 9:46:17 GMT
I suspect the vast majority of parents secretly agree with me. Errr. No. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 9:46:39 GMT
People who don't have children don't realise they're missing out on a gaming parter who can be summoned with a simple rallying cry. Your controller is all sticky I bet. His is. He's not allowed anywhere near mine.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Nov 23, 2021 9:46:50 GMT
The only other person I've seen so vehement in his claims to not like children is Jimmy Saville. Make of that what you will. Now then! |
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Post by Jambowayoh on Nov 23, 2021 9:47:44 GMT
I feel like my original point has been lost here. Even if we had infinite resources, world peace and climate change wasn't an issue, I still wouldn't want a child because they are fucking horrible little things. Okaaaay... |
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 23, 2021 9:50:40 GMT
Kids are fine. Entertaining them in short bursts is a small part of my job (storytimes), and maybe I'll have one if I can find a good person to have one with.
I occasionally get irritated when people drop the "you wouldn't understand because you're not a parent" line, as if I'm some alien incapable of grasping basic human emotion. But that doesn't happen too often, so it's fine.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 23, 2021 9:51:45 GMT
But "this thing is fine" is probably the least unpopular opinion imaginable, so I'll bow out of this particular argument!
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Post by Vortex on Nov 23, 2021 9:57:05 GMT
His is. He's not allowed anywhere near mine.
This is the way. Separate controllers. I would never go near our lads, I hear the flushing and near immediate return to the console from the bathroom all too often.. The manky git. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 10:11:41 GMT
The thing is your perspective of live shifts so fucking massively the second you have a kid (for most) that the "you wouldn't understand unless your a parent" thing does have some truth to it, despite being a cunty thing to say.
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Post by hedben on Nov 23, 2021 10:12:47 GMT
Sounds like someone has only met horrible children. Are you Willy Wonka? Not to derail, but Mike Teevee got a bad rap, especially in the Jonny Depp film. He wasn't particularly gluttonous or selfish, he was extremely smart, and he was right to call out Willy Wonka for using a teleporter for something as frivolous as "chocolate through your TV". |
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 23, 2021 10:17:46 GMT
Sweeping generalisation again, but I bet most people who don't like a specific veg were probably served a grim overcooked soggy puddle of it as a child and would change their mind if they tried it when properly cooked. Yep, I grew up with overcooked veg and meat, had no idea how nice meat was till I reached adulthood. |
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Post by Danno on Nov 23, 2021 10:18:58 GMT
Your mum's roast dinner is nowhere near as good as mine
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 23, 2021 10:22:25 GMT
The thing is your perspective of live shifts so fucking massively the second you have a kid (for most) that the "you wouldn't understand unless your a parent" thing does have some truth to it, despite being a cunty thing to say. Yes but typically non parents spend years with all of their siblings, friends, peers, workmates who are parents telling them every tiny detail about their kids, problems with kids, worries about kids, pride etc. etc. So unless non-parents magically have no listening skills nor empathy, they will have learned a fuckload about parenting, that's not even counting babysitting family etc. |
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Post by harriselhoff on Nov 23, 2021 10:24:17 GMT
The thing is your perspective of live shifts so fucking massively the second you have a kid (for most) that the "you wouldn't understand unless your a parent" thing does have some truth to it, despite being a cunty thing to say. Yes but typically non parents spend years with all of their siblings, friends, peers, workmates who are parents telling them every tiny detail about their kids, problems with kids, worries about kids, pride etc. etc. So unless non-parents magically have no listening skills nor empathy, they will have learned a fuckload about parenting, that's not even counting babysitting family etc. Hearing about something is completely different to experiencing it. That’s like saying you know how it is being in space because you spoke to an astronaut. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 10:25:58 GMT
Deciding to have a kid is purely selfish but to be a decent parent you have many, many years of selflessness. Yeah, I can definitely agree with that. Seems that I've won the thread. Fuck me... Ecosse has said something I think I agree with. Time to ring Dignitas, my brain is obviously addled.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 10:27:04 GMT
The thing is your perspective of live shifts so fucking massively the second you have a kid (for most) that the "you wouldn't understand unless your a parent" thing does have some truth to it, despite being a cunty thing to say. I actually began to type out this exact thing (including the fact it's a cunty thing to say - it is, but it is also a bit true). It's such an unexpected shift but it happens and makes you suddenly a hell of a lot more tolerant. And it is tolerance that's the key. Well, tolerance and patience. You think you have them before children, but you don't.
This is coming from someone who had no desire to be a parent and probably counted myself in the "I hate children" camp when I was younger.
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Post by MolarAm🔵 on Nov 23, 2021 10:27:46 GMT
To be fair, when people have dropped the "you wouldn't understand" line, it's usually in the context of me (for example) asking them to supervise their kids when they are running around my place of work with wild abandon. Or just leaving them alone while they go off and have a coffee.
So maybe I find it annoying because the context I hear it in is usually annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 10:28:42 GMT
Well yes. There's no excuse for just plain irresponsible parenting.
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Post by Dougs on Nov 23, 2021 10:29:07 GMT
Nick is right. Other people's kids are the worst, your own the best. Even if you know they can also be shits, they are your shits. Cats are the same imo.
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Post by スコットランド on Nov 23, 2021 10:29:32 GMT
Yes but typically non parents spend years with all of their siblings, friends, peers, workmates who are parents telling them every tiny detail about their kids, problems with kids, worries about kids, pride etc. etc. So unless non-parents magically have no listening skills nor empathy, they will have learned a fuckload about parenting, that's not even counting babysitting family etc. Hearing about something is completely different to experiencing it. That’s like saying you know how it is being in space because you spoke to an astronaut. Yeah, we should do away with books and speech because knowledge and emotions cannot be shared or transmitted, they can only be felt. |
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