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Post by Whizzo on Feb 5, 2024 13:48:02 GMT
Strange days was brilliant, and as you say quite forward looking in a lot of ways. Strong black female lead that didn't feel shoehorned to be politically correct, she was just great. It really is excellent, got the Blu Ray last year having not seen the movie in ages. The only thing that dates it is the 2000 year change and it was pretty ridiculous to have a film set five years after it was made to have such tech as the squid but ignoring that it holds up really well.
The squid footage of cops up to no good is pretty prescient in the bodycam footage that we've all seen of police committing crimes, obviously tapping into what happened with Rodney King and others being filmed in the nineties. You'd think today's dodgy police would have realised after 30 years that maybe you shouldn't be bad police in the first place whatever technology is around to capture it?
Angela Bassett is fantastic and Ralph Fiennes is really good as a very sleazy arsehole.
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Post by Matt A on Feb 5, 2024 13:52:51 GMT
It kind of reminds me of Robocop in how it includes social commentary in a way that is quite subversive.
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Post by rawshark on Feb 5, 2024 15:01:28 GMT
I just want Tom Hardy to be Bane. All the time. I want him to be scanning Peperami’s on the self service counter at the Tesco Express with his mask on and muttering “This scanner has defeated me.”
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Post by simple on Feb 5, 2024 15:59:35 GMT
… the role suited Hardy. I'm not a big fan of him in Inception - he somehow doesn't suit the plummy private school accent and background... even though he's basically playing Tom Hardy. Look at how much more natural he looked playing Charles Bronson than he did playing not-Picard too
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Post by geefe on Feb 5, 2024 16:05:22 GMT
I tried his Victorian cosplay on BBC and it was fucking hard work
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Post by harrypalmer on Feb 5, 2024 16:10:43 GMT
He's great in Mad Max and Dunkirk. Two roles that rely almost solely on physicality and 'presence'. I really like him in Dunkirk.
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Post by kal on Feb 5, 2024 16:21:33 GMT
He reminds me a bit of Gary Oldman whose early to mid career was defined by lots of very BIG ACTING roles, often with silly accents. But then in recent years he’s dialled it down, and become much better.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 5, 2024 16:22:57 GMT
I tried his Victorian cosplay on BBC and it was fucking hard work Oh god I vaguely remember that, I honestly couldn't understand a fucking word he said in that production.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 16:23:37 GMT
He reminds me a bit of Gary Oldman whose early to mid career was defined by lots of very BIG ACTING roles, often with silly accents. But then in recent years he’s dialled it down, and become much better. At least Oldman had more charm and seemed to love hamming it up. Hardy seems to do it without the fun.
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Post by sport✅ on Feb 5, 2024 16:27:21 GMT
Strange days was brilliant, and as you say quite forward looking in a lot of ways. Strong black female lead that didn't feel shoehorned to be politically correct, she was just great. It really is excellent, got the Blu Ray last year having not seen the movie in ages. The only thing that dates it is the 2000 year change and it was pretty ridiculous to have a film set five years after it was made to have such tech as the squid but ignoring that it holds up really well.
The squid footage of cops up to no good is pretty prescient in the bodycam footage that we've all seen of police committing crimes, obviously tapping into what happened with Rodney King and others being filmed in the nineties. You'd think today's dodgy police would have realised after 30 years that maybe you shouldn't be bad police in the first place whatever technology is around to capture it?
Angela Bassett is fantastic and Ralph Fiennes is really good as a very sleazy arsehole.
It also has the best ending credits... ever.
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Post by dmukgr on Feb 5, 2024 16:59:14 GMT
I tried his Victorian cosplay on BBC and it was fucking hard work Oh god I vaguely remember that, I honestly couldn't understand a fucking word he said in that production. I put off watching it for ages with that fear, but ended up enjoying it by not taking it seriously and just rolling with it. Mind you, I like that type of setting.
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Post by rawshark on Feb 5, 2024 17:34:12 GMT
Are we talking about Taboo here?
I’ll be honest, I struggle with any BBC period drama.
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Post by kal on Feb 5, 2024 17:36:32 GMT
Are we talking about Taboo here? I’ll be honest, I struggle with any BBC period drama. I’ll go one step further and say I struggle with the vast majority of British made drama. Kitchen sink stuff we do well, but anything else always seems naff.
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Post by Dougs on Feb 5, 2024 19:01:48 GMT
I think weve done this before but in full agreement.
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Post by geefe on Feb 5, 2024 19:04:20 GMT
Shane Meadows and Jimmy McGovern being the exceptions. But yeah...I can't really rank any British drama against a US equivalent.
Line of Duty gave it a good go before dying on its arse.
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Post by Reviewer on Feb 5, 2024 19:15:09 GMT
Things like Happy Valley seemed to appear high on most critic’s lists last year. Still, I have no interest. Anything ‘decent’ feels cheap and dreary.
Slow Horses is one of the exceptions that is really good and doesn’t have that feeling, I can’t think of any others (that I’ve watched).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 19:30:39 GMT
Yeah, just finished s1 and it's great. Put it off thinking it was BBC crap.
A lot of the issues British drama has is the same actors basically playing the same character in every drama that gets commissioned.
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Post by clemfandango on Feb 5, 2024 19:53:00 GMT
My wife works in British drama, she hates the fact I won’t watch any of it. Her latest show was ‘After the Flood’ and she was going on how great it was and the budget was huge. I watched the first episode and it had a a lot of police with northern accents, grey skies and a toy baby floating down an over flowing river, I noped out after that.
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Post by retro74 on Feb 5, 2024 20:00:33 GMT
Same, I try to avoid British dramas as most are complete shite. Luther wasn’t too bad early on though, solid 7 out of 10 consistently for the first 3 series if I recall correctly
Don’t fancy Happy Valley at all, seen a few clips via Gogglebox and that was enough
Watched one series of Line of Duty and thought it was bobbins
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Post by dmukgr on Feb 5, 2024 20:03:33 GMT
I just watched Beverly Hills Cop after Clem mentioned it the other day.
I hadn’t seen it for what must be nearly 40 years and my expectations were a little too high, but it’s great for what it is and I’ll watch the sequel tomorrow.
De de, de da de de da, de de da de de de d de der. That’s well stuck in my head now.
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Post by kal on Feb 5, 2024 20:05:34 GMT
Shane Meadows and Jimmy McGovern being the exceptions. But yeah...I can't really rank any British drama against a US equivalent. Line of Duty gave it a good go before dying on its arse. Shane Meadows is definitely kitchen sink.
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Post by kal on Feb 5, 2024 20:06:50 GMT
My absolute least favourite thing is British dramas with titles that pun on the lead character’s name.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Feb 5, 2024 20:09:56 GMT
Further to that, my pet hate is formats where they clearly started off with a name and worked backwards.
Channel 4’s ‘Sex Box’ was clearly a producer mishearing what his son wanted for Christmas and then barfing out some shit about a couple shagging in a Perspex cell.
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Post by harrypalmer on Feb 5, 2024 20:12:28 GMT
Industry is the best vaguely British thing I’ve seen in a long time. I too struggle with the kitchen sink stuff, especially the crime, it often feels very exploitative to me.
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Post by harrypalmer on Feb 5, 2024 20:13:09 GMT
Monkey Tennis?
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Post by kal on Feb 5, 2024 20:13:59 GMT
Further to that, my pet hate is formats where they clearly started off with a name and worked backwards. Channel 4’s ‘Sex Box’ was clearly a producer mishearing what his son wanted for Christmas and then barfing out some shit about a couple shagging in a Perspex cell. Yeah it’s the same thing. What’s a thing? Bacon and eggs is a thing. Ok let’s make a procedural about Sargent Bacon and his new colleague who he doesn’t get on with, John Eggs. The rest writes itself. I absolutely can’t stand it.
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Post by Kay on Feb 5, 2024 20:23:15 GMT
Rosemary and Thyme was the most contrived example that I can remember.
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Post by rawshark on Feb 5, 2024 20:30:03 GMT
My absolute least favourite thing is British dramas with titles that pun on the lead character’s name. Touch of Cloth?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2024 20:32:48 GMT
The worst is how they try and make Line of Duty grounded by getting the 2 main characters to say mate every other word when speaking to eachother.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Feb 5, 2024 20:33:27 GMT
Rosemary and Thyme was the most contrived example that I can remember. I believe they were based on books. You're point still stands though and I always roll my eyes when I come to visit the UK and BBC is showing several promos for their NEXT BIG DRAMA which is a police procedural with grey skies and "real people being real" or a period drama with lots of costumes. It's weird how British TV can't get out of this corner it's made for itself when I think how much good, diverse stuff America has pumped out, we couldn't even do Scandi-noir properly.
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