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Post by simple on Aug 5, 2024 7:56:13 GMT
I honestly think there are a few episodes that had they been official Star Trek episodes would be considered fan favourites and/or modern classics.
Its a pity that arguably the worst two episodes - or at least the most at odds with the tone of the show in general - are the first episode of season 1 and the first episode of season 2. There’s the odd joke here and there elsewhere but those are the two most Family Guy in Space episodes and I think they put a lot of people off. Including me to start with.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Aug 5, 2024 7:57:18 GMT
Can you guys create a thread for The Orville?
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 5, 2024 8:06:37 GMT
I watched about half the first season (up to episode 7, I think), and found it to be just ok. Certainly better than Family Guy in space and it had some good moments, but overall it felt too cheesy to be taken seriously and not funny enough to be a comedy. It was also obvious that MacFarlane wanted to make an actual Star Trek show, but was stuck making a fake one instead (I expect if The Orville didn't exist and he approached them now to make a show they would throw money at him, especially after the success of Lower Decks)
Should watch more of it though. Certainly didn't hate it, but just didn't like it as much as others did.
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Post by simple on Aug 5, 2024 8:43:23 GMT
It might not work completely out of context without being totally familiar with the characters but if you’re a fan of 90s Star Trek I’d say watch the season 2 episode Lasting Impressions.
Topa’s story as well but I think that needs to be watched in context to see it develop.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 5, 2024 17:02:52 GMT
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Post by RadicalRex on Aug 5, 2024 17:17:43 GMT
Yeah I've actually read it, it's wild. When Ilia-bot first appears on the Enterprise, she's naked and Gene describes in detail how her nipples are pointing at Kirk. Kirk then reasons that Spock must be wrong, that this must be the real Ilia, because her alien pheromones are the only possible explanation why he can't stop staring at her tits.
Early TNG was also so horny because of Gene, episodes like The Naked Now and Justice have his sticky fingerprints all over them.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 8, 2024 18:19:41 GMT
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Post by simple on Aug 8, 2024 19:58:53 GMT
I’m very happy that Bobby Fingers put me onto Adam Savage’s youtube channel
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 10, 2024 20:34:57 GMT
Finished season 1 Prodigy. That was much better then it deserved to be. There were perhaps a couple of episodes that didn't work brilliantly (the Borg one stood out) and it is a show that is certainly aimed at kids, with some plot beats you wouldn't give a pass if this were a slightly more grown-up live action show, but mostly really well done.
Got to say, it is possibly the best modern Trek. Perhaps not reaching the highs of Strange New Worlds, but much more consistent.
Only thing that really bugged me is I'm sure they could have hopped in a shuttle craft and sent out comms from there.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Aug 25, 2024 9:09:40 GMT
I'm about halfway through "Lost To Eternity", the latest ST novel by Greg Cox.
It takes place across three seperate time periods;
2021 - Someone who does a podcast series about cold-cases investigates the sudden unexplained disappearance of Gillian Taylor, a whale researcher in San Francisco 1986, and uncovers a link to an incident where she was sighted rescuing a Russian spy from a hospital the same day she disappeared.
2268 - The TOS crew are ordered to apprehend a criminal who kidnapped a medical researcher and escaped to a pre-warp planet on the border between Federation and Klingon space.
2292 - The Enterprise-A is escorting some alien diplomats to a peace conference alongside Klingon and Romulan ships doing the same, then shit happens.
So far it's pretty good, as is usually the case with Cox, but so far there has been absolutely no indication whatsoever of how the three stories are actually linked, and I'm worried it's going to seem rushed and overly convoluted towards the end.
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Post by Vandelay on Aug 25, 2024 20:50:26 GMT
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Post by drhickman1983 on Aug 30, 2024 9:42:24 GMT
Looking forward to the Bell Riots kicking off over the next few days 🥳
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 8, 2024 17:06:08 GMT
Lower Decks season 5 clip:
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Post by Gruf on Sept 8, 2024 23:49:52 GMT
Never watched it, yet it is exactly how I imagined it would be.
Watch Prodigy instead.
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on Sept 9, 2024 7:30:40 GMT
Never watched it, yet it is exactly how I imagined it would be. Watch Prodigy as well. Fixed. |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2024 7:58:35 GMT
A compilation of every complaint I've ever had about Picard/New Star Trek. Worth a watch if you have a spare 4 hours.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 9, 2024 8:33:40 GMT
This appeared in my feed last week and I watched most of it. Good video, even though I'm a bit more of a Picard apologist than most (other than the pit of despair that is season 2). Can't really deny her complaints with it and nu-Trek in general. Even as someone that enjoyed bits of season 1 and much of season 3, I expect if I re-watched them and was less clouded by that sweet nostalgia hit I would think it was all equally terrible.
Strange New Worlds and Prodigy are pretty good nu-Trek (with the latter being more consistently great). Lower Decks is enjoyable enough as well, although I would rather something with characters that are more believably part of the Star Trek world (Prodigy gets the balance perfectly). Everything else is pretty terrible.
Only thing I would pull her up on is the shade she throws at Wraith of Khan. It's great.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 9, 2024 10:35:05 GMT
Not watched Picard.. but for some reason I'm happy to watch 4 hours of her complaining about it.  Might be because she's spookily similar to Jenny Nicholson's hours-long complainy videos about movies, like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GErIPKjwuDg |
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Post by simple on Sept 9, 2024 10:36:54 GMT
I bounced off Lower Decks to start with but once it clicked I was in. I think its probably more a show about Star Trek than a Star Trek show in a lot of ways. If that makes sense.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Sept 9, 2024 10:52:31 GMT
It is. Its a love letter to Star Trek which can actually make it quite a frustrating watch. It proves we are perfectly capable of telling good, interesting, 'classic' Star Trek stories while giving them a modern update.
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Post by Vandelay on Sept 9, 2024 10:56:32 GMT
That does make sense and I very much agree with you. It is mostly held up by it's winks and nods to the franchise, rather than anything new it adds.
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Post by Warrender on Sept 9, 2024 14:08:06 GMT
It's kinda like how Galaxy Quest is probably the best Star Trek movie ever made.
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Post by RadicalRex on Sept 9, 2024 14:13:14 GMT
Ironically, Prodigy is my favourite of the modern Trek shows partially because it's the least cartoonish.
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Post by Whizzo on Sept 9, 2024 14:19:55 GMT
Watching four hours of someone complaining about Picard seems like four hours I could better spend doing anything else.
If you take that long you're taking far too fucking long.
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Post by simple on Sept 9, 2024 14:23:13 GMT
Aren’t Amazon or someone meant to be doing a Galaxy Quest reboot/revival tv series?
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 7, 2024 1:34:18 GMT
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 7, 2024 9:22:23 GMT
A part of Lower Decks I wasn't expecting to see in STO.
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Post by Vandelay on Oct 7, 2024 11:22:41 GMT
Or they are big Time's Arrow fans... Nah.
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Post by Whizzo on Oct 10, 2024 17:39:21 GMT
Five seasons is far too few.
The very end of the trailer was excellent.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Oct 18, 2024 2:20:16 GMT
A compilation of every complaint I've ever had about Picard/New Star Trek. Worth a watch if you have a spare 4 hours. Got around to finishing this, and my main takeaway (other than the fact I'll apparently happily sit and listen to people moan about stuff on youtube for 4 hours) is that the new Trek guys really wanted to make new Babylon 5, but they were stuck with Trek instead. But they seem to have missed the fundamental difference in tone and structure between B5 and Trek. And they also seem to be not very good, so they'd have screwed up B5 anyway. Plus Psi Corps >>> Section 31. |
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