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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 29, 2024 8:10:31 GMT
Is anyone still watching Disco? It is absolutely dreadful. On a treasure hunt for the opportunity to root through the precursors garbage, The Breen are just Romulans in an Oculus Rift and Mok and Lol are genuinely the most irritating characters I have seen in a dogs age. Shoot her out of a fucking airlock, for gods sake.
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Post by myk on May 29, 2024 8:15:07 GMT
Haven't watched the last two weeks, the big dramatic moments are falling flat and it's just not enjoyable to watch.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 29, 2024 8:31:24 GMT
Its just annoying that almost every episode has a 'leave him in an easily escapable room with some lightly armed guards' scene from Austin Powers. Usually facilitated by that fucking goomba insisting 'I know she has shot everyone but let me deal with it. I can talk to her'
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Post by Garfy on May 29, 2024 8:56:14 GMT
I stopped watching after series 3 was such a damp fart
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Post by mcmonkeyplc on May 29, 2024 9:03:19 GMT
Yeah I'm watching it, it's shit but still watchable in a have it on whilst cooking way.
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 29, 2024 9:08:58 GMT
Watched Season 2 of Strange New Worlds now. I liked it again and thought the season as a whole was a step up on the already pretty good first season. The good bits didn't just feel like retreads of previously good Trek this time around, which helped a lot. I was a bit disappointed in the musical episode though. Had high hopes and thought it started of well, but the songs were mostly meh and the focus on La'an's feelings for Kirk wasn't that interesting (and I really enjoyed the episode that it all stemmed from). Was a shame, as it seemed like it would be a lot of fun from the opening 15 minutes or so. The Lower Decks crossover episode was a much better shits and giggles episode and they probably should have held back the musical for another season. Personally I'm not sure if I enjoyed it more than Season 1, but it's in the same ballpark. I think my main issue with S2 is that there were probably 3 "gimmick" episodes where there's some big hook that shakes things up unusually - the LD crossover and the musical episode obviously, but I'd also included the time travel episode. None of these are bad, and are even enjoyable, but it almost feels like I'd like more "standard" episodes to ground the characters a bit. As the seasons are so short there's just not enough time for that.
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Post by simple on May 29, 2024 23:44:06 GMT
I’m holding off on Disco 5 until I can binge the whole thing.
I’m ready to feel frustrated though. I think overall its been getting steadily better as its gone on (with some seriously big missteps along the way) but it does have a consistent habit of setting up stuff that could be interesting Trek premises then completely fluffing them.
I have a feeling they won’t top the ‘Arrival’ arc from season 4 though and they’ll continue to not recognise which parts of the show work best and focus on the weaker parts instead, again.
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Post by RadicalRex on May 30, 2024 9:40:53 GMT
I hated the progenitor episode in TNG and its implications. However I always considered it a shining example of why Old Trek's isolated episode format can be a very good thing sometimes. Thank God everyone immediately forgot about it! Thank God it never came up again!
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Aside from that, I don't think this is as bad as Disco's worst (i.e. S2), and I think it feels much less messy and planless than earlier seasons, but it's still... just boring. The antagonists don't do anything for me and everything else is also very uninteresting. As I'm also rewatching classic Trek (currently DS9 and VOY) and alternating between Disco and those, it's so striking how much more interesting and enjoyable those are to watch.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on May 30, 2024 10:23:28 GMT
Its the weirdest episode. Its a throwaway bit of fluff to hand wave why all of the alien species look the same but with a slightly different nose ridge but actually has the most far reaching consequences of pretty much any episode in the show. Its absolutely inconceivable that Picard, who has a well established archeology boner, would just let that drop. If they were going to go back to the well, they should have done it for Picard S2 and saved us all from the shite they actually dished up.
And, man, the 'archive footage' is hilarious. Moon faced, changling-esque plasticine people, softly lit on an obvious sound stage super imposed onto the harsh 4K CGI Discovery sets looks so weird. Its always jarring when they use show footage as in-universe documentary but that just looks odd.
But, yeah, the concept is fine. I'm not against them exploring that further. I think its fairly fair game as it should have always been a bigger deal. Its just that the antagonists are so lame it just kills me.
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Post by Whizzo on May 30, 2024 10:52:09 GMT
I'm glad that shit is now done, I've disliked a lot of Star Trek in the past but I think I actually hate Discovery, it was crap before the time jump and yet somehow got even worse. Burnham was a fucking awful character and I wouldn't have followed her into a pub garden with a round of drinks let alone around the galaxy and the rest of the characters all seemed to think she was Space Jesus half the time. Utterly awful writing throughout the entire series that you know wasn't done by AI because it would possibly have made more sense if it was. As for the finale, well it wraps it up and that's about it, I really wish the Star Fleet Academy show wasn't set before its epilogue as the future Federation is terrible. One hilariously bad parts of the finale, among a fuckton of awful shite : Burnham attacks Moll in the Forerunner/Progenitor/whoever built it zone, they fight for a bit and then Burnham tells her there's no point in fighting, she started the fucking fight!.
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May 30, 2024 11:57:36 GMT
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Post by drhickman1983 on May 30, 2024 11:57:36 GMT
I can't even bring myself to hatewatch Discovery.
I'm kinda glad some people found something interesting in it.
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Post by simple on May 30, 2024 13:32:38 GMT
I think the jump to the future was a good idea but the execution was bad and then once they got to the future the opportunity was largely wasted. I get that the featured crew will be made to look good but considering they were the equivalent of Normans landing present day America they were somehow never fish out of water and were more capable than the future people pre-TOS era tech that was for Reasons able to largely outmatch ships from a *thousand years* in the future.
There was a real opportunity to do something thoughtful about them being somewhere truly alien like Voyager and Enterprise were supposed to but they never really invested in it.
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Post by RadicalRex on May 30, 2024 15:46:42 GMT
But, yeah, the concept is fine. I'm not against them exploring that further. I think its fairly fair game as it should have always been a bigger deal. Its just that the antagonists are so lame it just kills me. My problem with it is what it says about evolution. It's actually a general problem of Star Trek where whenever the topic comes up it shows the writers' pre-Darwin "understanding" of evolution and it makes me want to throw my shoes at the screen. And here's TNG again, you know that TV show that's supposed to be about science and stuff, and establishes that mankind is the product of guided evolution/intelligent design, that it is the end goal of evolution... I just can't... gah!
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 31, 2024 22:02:05 GMT
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May 31, 2024 22:36:44 GMT
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Post by Lizard on May 31, 2024 22:36:44 GMT
I'm trying to watch Picard, but it is soooo boring. Flashbacks galore.
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May 31, 2024 22:46:48 GMT
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Post by Lizard on May 31, 2024 22:46:48 GMT
Desaturated people standing in austere rooms looking nervously at one another.
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Post by Saul1138 on May 31, 2024 23:57:03 GMT
I fell asleep during the last episode of Discovery. My Paramount subscription has ran out, and I cannot be bothered to renew it yet. And I think I can live without knowing how it ends.
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 1, 2024 1:33:26 GMT
I can live with it.
Computer – erase that entire personal log.
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Post by Lizard on Jun 1, 2024 1:47:05 GMT
Perhaps my favourite episode, Garak just elevates everything.
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Post by Lizard on Jun 7, 2024 22:53:28 GMT
Finished Picard.
Season one was utterly fucking boring, seemed like nothing happened until episode eight.
Season two was at least a lot more entertaining, but also quite silly.
Season three was pretty bloody good, then it shit itself completely at the end.
Thinking of it as a send-off for the Picard character, the most disappointing aspect is the Q storyline. Any Picard-Q story thrives thanks the banter between then, and we didn't really see any of that, just lots of silly cat-and-mouse stuff.
The Borg finale was just dreck, very poor. Geiger Borg queen was terrible and the antithesis of what the Borg are.
Either way, Picard's final story should've been Q-based IMO. If feels like these three seasons have all the right ingredients to send Picard off properly, but it's a big mess.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jun 20, 2024 19:15:32 GMT
Oh god, I can't unsee this.
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Post by Whizzo on Jun 20, 2024 19:46:24 GMT
Prodigy : yay!
That crime against humanity : I hope the AI server farm exploded.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 21, 2024 2:42:17 GMT
TIL Mila Kunis as Deanna Troy looks a lot like Lt Savik.
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Post by nazo on Jun 21, 2024 6:53:42 GMT
Who is Bo Laren?
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Post by drhickman1983 on Jun 21, 2024 7:54:36 GMT
A racially insensitive Bajoran caricature by Avid Merrion
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 21, 2024 8:27:36 GMT
A gull wing sports car
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Post by Reviewer on Jun 21, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
That AI loves overly wrinkly plastic faces.
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Post by apollo on Jun 22, 2024 9:44:06 GMT
that AI mess of recasting TNG was horrible, fuck the person who made that. But Alan Tudyk as an Q would be great
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Post by Bill in the rain on Jun 22, 2024 12:23:15 GMT
I think there's a universal law that Alan Tudyk as anyone in anything would be great.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Jul 2, 2024 22:09:26 GMT
Just watched the first two episodes of Prodigy season 2.
Dal continues to need a slap.
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