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Post by geefe on Sept 22, 2023 23:00:00 GMT
I've never paid for a paid-for TV service, such as Sky, on the very principle that I'm paying for a product and not adverts.
It's the same reason I either turn up to a cinema as late as possible and refuse adverts. I'm paying to watch a film, not adverts.
If you can't afford to make money off people paying for your product, either lower your budget or increase the cost.
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Post by dmukgr on Sept 23, 2023 7:48:33 GMT
Personally, I find coming up next type stuff more annoying as I don’t see adverts since I yar everything.
Always seems odd when say visiting parents and seeing adverts on tv.
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Post by dfunked on Sept 23, 2023 8:00:57 GMT
I’m not sure why if you pay you think there shouldn’t be ads. Outside of streaming normal TV never worked that way. That was then, this is now. We've had a decade or so to get used to an ad-free experience on Netflix and everything that popped up after it, so it's obviously going to raise a few hackles. |
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 23, 2023 8:04:48 GMT
It’s still that way for most people. How many people pay ridiculous amounts for Sky?
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Post by Reviewer on Sept 23, 2023 8:10:01 GMT
If you can't afford to make money off people paying for your product, either lower your budget or increase the cost. But that’s what they’re doing (as an option) and you said you don’t want them to do that either. The issue I see here is that they’d effectively be increasing the price for the equivalent service (which all services are doing because their business model is stupid - spending hundreds of millions on a few hours of entertainment), but there’s an option for those that don’t want to pay more. The price increase is shit but you’ve also said that’s what they should do. This is targeted at the majority of people who will just accept the ads. |
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Post by Syrette on Sept 23, 2023 8:10:18 GMT
It'd be a bit more palatable if it wasn't Amazon asking for extra money.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Sept 23, 2023 9:07:41 GMT
Please sir, I'm just down on my luck. I don't have enough to pay for the mini bar on my 50th private plane.
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Post by geefe on Sept 23, 2023 9:50:45 GMT
They can fuck off, quite frankly. I don't even think Amazon do good original content. Bosch was good for 3-4 series but that was a few years ago.
I reckon 2025 is when the "discounts for contract subscribers" comes in. Then you'll basically be in TV channel territory.
Fundamentally - there's quantity over quality and that's the main problem.
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Post by nazo on Sept 23, 2023 12:43:55 GMT
Prime continues to get shitter, didn't they just raise the prices?
They already ruined Prime Music, none of the services are really worth paying for by themselves, not sure they're worth it as a collection anymore either.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Oct 24, 2023 21:17:10 GMT
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Post by neems on Oct 24, 2023 21:32:02 GMT
I've seen the first episode, I quite enjoyed it.
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Post by askew on Dec 27, 2023 9:18:02 GMT
FYI
“We are writing to you today about an upcoming change to your Prime Video experience. Starting January 29, Prime Video movies and TV shows will include limited advertisements. This will allow us to continue investing in compelling content and keep increasing that investment over a long period of time. We aim to have meaningfully fewer ads than linear TV and other streaming TV providers. No action is required from you, and there is no change to the current price of your Prime membership. We will also offer a new ad-free option for an additional $2.99 per month that you can sign up for here.”
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Post by dfunked on Dec 27, 2023 9:24:46 GMT
* cancels prime sub *
I've been gradually slipping away from my old yarring ways, but this can fuck right off!
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 27, 2023 9:26:27 GMT
Congratulations, you invented TV but you have to back in and out of apps to change the channel.
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Post by Dougs on Dec 27, 2023 9:28:20 GMT
This sort of shit is definitely pushing me towards yarring more stuff, which is fine for me but no good for the kids, who consume content like it's beamed directly into their eyeballs.
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Post by baihu1983 on Dec 27, 2023 10:06:56 GMT
It's nice of them all to try and make TV have a comeback.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 27, 2023 10:09:50 GMT
There’s one good thing to come out of it, I suppose, and it’s the fact we have entered The Purge phase. I’ve got Apple TV, paramount plus, prime and Disney plus all either free or on a massive discount at the moment as they all fight for my attention.
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Post by simple on Dec 27, 2023 10:10:34 GMT
So its Freevee that you pay for?
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Post by clemfandango on Dec 27, 2023 10:27:40 GMT
Amazon seem to now have about 15 paid for sub channels if you want to watch anything random. For example Robocop is on the mgm channel (which Amazon own), they want 4.99 a month for that ‘upgrade’. It’s all confusing bollocks now. If we didn’t use the delivery service it would be binned off.
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Post by simple on Dec 27, 2023 10:44:49 GMT
Yeah, that was one of the reasons I cancelled. Nearly everything I wanted to watch was on a top up channel and they’re all a fiver each and can’t be viewed without the base subscription.
Its not quite as pisstaking as NowTV making you pay extra for the ability to watch more than one device but its still very unhelpful.
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Post by Warrender on Dec 27, 2023 11:29:15 GMT
I order too much shit on Amazon to get rid of the sub entirely. Depending on the yearly hit, I might switch to monthly and just toggle the option on and off depending on whether I want to watch anything on Prime that month.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 27, 2023 14:46:01 GMT
I've never understood the prime add-on channels. Does anyone actually pay for those?
If they were standalone and didn't require prime I'd be tempted to try a few, but as add-ons they don't seem to make much sense.
On a separate note, a few days ago I had to actually sit infront of the tv with a pencil and paper, and go through each of the apps and write down any decent xmas/family movies that they had. It reminded me of when I used to go through the Radio Times with a highlighter on the first day of xmas hols and highlight all the movies to plan my holiday viewing. Except much more annoying to do, and I also had to write down when each one was leaving, and they added a few more the next day.
It's ridiculously hard to keep track of what's on each app and when. Especially when they pull shit like having 3 die hard movies spread across 3 different services.
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Post by simple on Dec 27, 2023 15:02:37 GMT
I used a trial of the paramount+ add-on to binge as much new Star Trek as I could.
Some of them have really good films and shows but its starting to feel like every film studio or distributor is being individually carved off to the point where you’d need four or five to get a bundle that felt comprehensive.
I don’t think we’ll be returning to broadcast tv now that on demand is so established but it does feel like the granularisation and unsustainable pricing models will cause some kind of crash or contraction before too long. Some of the big streamers are already starting to pull original content or shelve it unaired to save costs.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 27, 2023 15:07:00 GMT
I've never understood the prime add-on channels. Does anyone actually pay for those? If they were standalone and didn't require prime I'd be tempted to try a few, but as add-ons they don't seem to make much sense. They are and they don’t. They are all standalone services you can sub to separately or take them out through Amazon and use the prime app as a single pane of glass. You can take out a Crunchyroll sub through the prime app and either watch it alongside the rest of your content or log into the crunchyroll app and watch it there. None of them are run or owned by Amazon, it’s just being used as a storefront. The point of them, I suppose, is that they are mostly providers and curators of fairly niche content you can’t find anywhere else. I occasionally take out the arrow player channel sub which gives you access to this kind of stuff which you generally don’t find on Netflix or something www.arrow-player.com/explore |
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Post by simple on Dec 27, 2023 17:01:18 GMT
I had BFI Player through work but ended up having to watch via plugging my laptop into the telly because there was no BFI app for our tv and you could tie the external membership to Prime - so using the Prime add-on versions does make for a more convenient way to juggle so many third party subscriptions within a single app. Its more the fact that there are so many that I find the bigger headache.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Dec 28, 2023 1:35:35 GMT
I've never understood the prime add-on channels. Does anyone actually pay for those? If they were standalone and didn't require prime I'd be tempted to try a few, but as add-ons they don't seem to make much sense. They are and they don’t. They are all standalone services you can sub to separately or take them out through Amazon and use the prime app as a single pane of glass. You can take out a Crunchyroll sub through the prime app and either watch it alongside the rest of your content or log into the crunchyroll app and watch it there. None of them are run or owned by Amazon, it’s just being used as a storefront. The point of them, I suppose, is that they are mostly providers and curators of fairly niche content you can’t find anywhere else. I occasionally take out the arrow player channel sub which gives you access to this kind of stuff which you generally don’t find on Netflix or something www.arrow-player.com/exploreHmm. Didn't know that (probably due to the way it's presented). On the one hand, combining them all into one app sounds like a good idea, but on the other hand, I don't remember the prime app being that great, or that different from the general fire-stick UI. But it still seems odd that you need to be a prime subscriber to subscribe to those add-on channels, since they're much more visible than the regular apps and you'd think they'd make more money if they didn't put of customers by telling them they needed 2 subscriptions to watch MGM instead of just one. Iirc you can use the prime app without a prime subscription, you just can only watch freevee stuff. Then again, I also find it odd that they keep doing movie rental sales *for prime members only* because there's a bunch of movies I'd have rented from them if they'd been open to me too. *shrug* |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Dec 28, 2023 9:07:39 GMT
That is the main problem. The prime app absolutely fucking sucks. If they want to be a platform and not just a channel it needs a root and branch redesign.
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Post by jono62 on Dec 28, 2023 11:47:59 GMT
It is the worst. That lord of the rings thing they spent so much money on didn't even make it onto my front page. Its a ballache to search for anything too. I really enjoy upload and didn't realise there was another series until someone here mentioned it.
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Post by askew on Dec 28, 2023 19:53:32 GMT
The updated TV app on the Apple TV offers a tighter integration, meaning you can browse the Prime Video library a little more easily.
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Post by LFace on Dec 28, 2023 20:15:05 GMT
Well if they add adverts into the rare few stuff I watch on prime then I'll just pirate them instead. The stuff I watched exclusive to prime I can probably count on one hand anyway - American Gods, The Boys, it's spinoff, that lord of the rings guff.
Pirating not only gives better user experience of the product but also the interface in Plex will be vastly superior to what is arguably the worst streaming interface known to man.
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