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Post by technoish on Apr 30, 2022 6:27:39 GMT
My meater doesn't work in my BBQ as it creates a little Faraday cage so no Bluetooth/WiFi signals get out!!!
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Post by DrStrangelove on Apr 30, 2022 9:28:07 GMT
Thanks for the tips and suggestions. Curing on the Kamado has started, lovely day here in the south west. Probably will keep it simple this weekend, straight up sear and grill BBQ with maybe 1 slow cook to get a feel.
Any recommendations on thermometers? Wired/wireless?
Is that what I can see sticking out of the lamb joint (leg?) @rummonkey?
Quick search suggests Inkbird WiFi Bluetooth BBQ Temperature Controller ISC-007BW (fairly pricey at £200) and also an instant read one, like an Inkbird IHT-1P (about £25-30).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2022 9:30:52 GMT
Yeah, the metal thing is the thermometer. It's a really cool put of kit. Links to your phone and tells you when to rest the meat etc. Does internal and external temp.
Got it for £70 so not too bad. But definitely get a thermometer, it's essential to get perfectly cooked meats.
And yeah, I did stuff like chicken wings and burgers just to get a feel for the bbq. Then started smoking and low and slow. It's a breeze to pick up though, I think you'll be impressed.
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Post by Vortex on May 3, 2022 13:28:32 GMT
Oh, now. This looks like a gadget I didn't know about, or possibly need, but that's going on the list. Does it make a fair step up in the bbq game? I changed our bbq during lockdown and now need to get to grips with the new one. Should possibly have gone down the kamado route, rather than the kettle type, but never mind.
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Post by technoish on May 3, 2022 13:35:23 GMT
Just a counterpoint, mine does not work very well through the bbq lid. Also, it isn't very useful for meats where you can't really stick it in quite far.
I have the meater block, I actually got it when it was a kickstarter.
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Post by DrStrangelove on May 3, 2022 13:36:59 GMT
Very temped to get the Meater, especially based on what Psiloc is saying about the wires getting in the way.
Have to say that thus far I'm impressed by the Aldi Kamado. For using it as a sear BBQ it works like a chimney so getting the coals started and up to temperature was really easy. Could do with a a larger surface to cook on but then thats what you get for the money so can't complain.
Attempted a slow cook lamb shoulder yesterday, Turned out well if a bit dry. Suspect that was a combination of overcooking and not much fat on the cut. I'll adjust and maybe wrap it for the last 2 hours next time.
Getting the temperature to 150 degrees and keeping there was surprisingly easy as well, just had to make sure I had a well stocked (but not over flowing) fire bowl, kept the bottom vent a finger width and the top vent closed with the daisy wheel set to just under half open. I think the trick is to wait out temperature changes with minor adjustments and don't faff about too much otherwise you will be chasing temperatures. Chucked in a small dried chunk of my apple tree from my wood store in to get some smoke going also.
I heard a tip that may be useful to others also, when checking the food (when slow cooking/roasting), close the bottom vent and open slowly. This does not cause an intake of air from the bottom so you should not get any flair ups. when closing, as the top should be open, you won't cause any negative airflow as all the air should be pushed upwards. Then reopen the bottom vent.
Going to try a few more slow roasts and am looking forward to trying pizza out also.
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Post by technoish on May 3, 2022 13:38:10 GMT
Weird they put the water reservoir on the other (wrong?) side though.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 14:55:50 GMT
Oh, now. This looks like a gadget I didn't know about, or possibly need, but that's going on the list. Does it make a fair step up in the bbq game? I changed our bbq during lockdown and now need to get to grips with the new one. Should possibly have gone down the kamado route, rather than the kettle type, but never mind. It's helped me a lot not fussing over the cook and just letting it be as you can just check the app for internal and external temp. And the meat has been bang on everytime since using it. DrStrangeloveDid you use a thermometer for the leg or judge by eye? Even the cheap wired ones make a big difference on not over cooking meats. Also a drip/water tray underneath helps keep the meat moist.
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Post by Vortex on May 3, 2022 15:03:04 GMT
I can get that- not looking so often would help the temperature stay more even, but you kind of feel yo have to have a peek.
Or maybe i just have low-level ocd there.
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Post by 😎 on May 3, 2022 15:55:34 GMT
True BBQers go by feel alone. that is distinctly not me, my anxiety ridden mind couldn’t cope without the temp reading
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 16:44:42 GMT
I think even if I was good/experienced enough to go by feel I'd still bottle it and double check with a thermometer.
You actually might be best placed to answer this one being in 'Murica. Trying to find a good bbq sauce recipe, that's tangy with a spicy kick to it. Everywhere I look they're always too sweet. Or even a good brand I could buy.
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Post by 😎 on May 3, 2022 16:49:36 GMT
Look for Georgia bbq sauces. Vinegar and mustard based usually, sometimes with some sweetness for taste that you can easily modify, but adding a kick of heat is easy.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2022 16:52:22 GMT
Quick Google shows that's exactly what I'm after, cheers.
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Post by Psiloc on May 3, 2022 18:16:49 GMT
Weird they put the water reservoir on the other (wrong?) side though. Yeah, I think slow n sear have patented the design to have the reservoir on the food side, which is why they can charge £100 for it, and fuck that. Reviews for this are positive though and other than a tiny drop in potential moisture it must still work, the steams still going to mostly end up amongst the smoke It’s not like it’s an actual deflector anyway, it’s indirect via offsetting regardless
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Post by H-alphaFox on May 7, 2022 11:46:17 GMT
Egg for scale.
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Post by Vortex on May 7, 2022 16:54:50 GMT
Wow, the cooking process really altered that steak.
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Post by H-alphaFox on May 7, 2022 17:01:01 GMT
lol, I couldn´t do it again if I tried. Must of been the egg. Going to fire it all shortly.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 17:23:49 GMT
Looking forward to the after pics of that steak.
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Post by H-alphaFox on May 7, 2022 20:26:57 GMT
Looking forward to the after pics of that steak. Not the best pic but on looks you would say slightly over, it wasn't. On taste it was stunning and one of the best steaks I've had and the wife agreed. The jus from it was amazing. Just SPG and a reverse sear over coals. The chicken(no pics) was declared spicy enough for my eldest which basically means you could probably sell it as one of those spicy challenge plates.
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Post by dfunked on May 8, 2022 18:59:37 GMT
Think I need to look into a meater or something similar. Just did a steak on the grill and could've done a much better job. Ambient temp was clearly a lot hotter than the external thermometer shows as it was well over my intended internal temp after just 20 mins. Plus the grill is 30m from the house so not exactly convenient to go out and check on it...
Some of the negative reviews of the meater are putting me off it though.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 19:18:09 GMT
I think they do some 100 day money back thing if you aren't happy. I honestly can't sing it's praises enough for how well it works.
@alpha
That hunk of meat looks good, what's the price for something like that over there?
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Post by 😎 on May 8, 2022 19:22:38 GMT
I’ve got a nice bone in ribeye to cook up tonight. Annoyingly the weather has turned pish though so indoors in the skillet after a sous vide it is. On the subject of steak, what does everyone like for seasoning? Outside of just plain salt and pepper, the very best seasoning I’ve tried (and I’ve tried a lot) is, weirdly, the Jack Daniels Steak off the shelf. store.jackdaniels.com/jdr/product.asp?pf_id=BFJ1799&dept_id=14100Something about it that just makes it sublime.
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Post by dfunked on May 8, 2022 20:05:03 GMT
@rummonkey You've twisted my arm! Went for the plus as 10m range sounds useless for me (and it avoids the Faraday cage issue mentioned above) Came close to ordering the block instead, but that's just silly money. I've still got the old skool dial thermometer and an instant read one if I need to cook more that one thing.
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Post by H-alphaFox on May 8, 2022 20:21:02 GMT
I think they do some 100 day money back thing if you aren't happy. I honestly can't sing it's praises enough for how well it works. @alpha That hunk of meat looks good, what's the price for something like that over there? About 23-26 euro a kg and the steak is a 1 kg or thereabouts cut. Also feeds two for two days. Seasoning I normally use is salt and pepper and if I feel fancy some garlic powder.
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Post by technoish on May 8, 2022 20:23:39 GMT
I am really confused by the steak on the grill for 20 minutes thing! Of course it was well cooked. Wasn't it charred to hell also?
I don't really like to add anything to my steaks except salt n pepper. The most important thing though is to dry brine (any meat) in the fridge for at least an hour before cooking or even overnight. That basically means taking out of the packet, patting dry with kitchen towel, sprinkling salt on and putting on a grill thing open in the fridge. It can make the cheapest supermarket cut edible.
Don't do under 40 minutes or so, as during that period the salt pulls out moisture from the meat, so you actually make it less moist. After the 40 minutes the moisture is reabsorbed with the salt alongside it, so you get lovely flavoursome meat, and the salt helps tenderise, and the time in the fridge dries out the surface so you can get a proper maillard reaction.
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Post by dfunked on May 8, 2022 20:30:31 GMT
I meant doing a reverse sear entirely with the grill. Initial cook was just the left burner on (I'm a gas pleb) and steak on the cooling rack on the opposite side to get up to temp. Then take it out while the grill gets as hot as possible for the actual searing.
Next time I'd probably just use the oven indoors instead and finish it on the grill tbh. Thought it'd be less faff this way but ended up almost wasting a bit of meat. You live you learn!
Or I might just skip the reverse sear and do it all on the grill if it's a thinner one.
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