Warhammer (with the models and everything)

GW are on a 3 year release cycle for all their games it seems. Which means a new Kill Team later this year too.

DOCTOR BEES

So the new Chaos SM Combat Patrol box - seems to be continuing a trend of removing a cool centrepiece (the Hellbrute) and offering a generally slightly less appealing collection of minis.

I really would like to collect CSM and thought they would be my 4th army, after orkses.

With the loyalists, I’ve basically collected 2000 points (bulk of my pile of shame) from Leviathan and three Combat Patrols - the (previous) Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Space Wolves. With FLGS prices, this has been a great way to do it AND get three big centrepiece models I love - and Impulsor, Redemptor dread and the Invictus Tactical Robocop 2 suit.

Granted most armies you can’t buy three separate Combat Patrols for, but I really feel like the Chaos CSM box as was is a really tempting and cool way to start the race for 2,000 and bag a big model. I get that CP is supposed to be its own thing but surely I can’t be the only one that uses it as a starter/boost to collecting for the main game?

So with Codex Orks on the horizon I basically feel forced into buying their awesome CP before it goes out of print, despite being nowhere near ready for it. Sigh. Onto the credit card and onto the POS it goes. Why can’t they just leave things alone?!

I feel the term Pile Of Shame is really well thought out, as it makes the collector feel like a POS themselves!

The degradation of CP boxes seems more deliberate to me. Auspex has commented on most of them and highlighted a drop in value in terms of both pure cash savings and the amount of points per £ whenever a box is changed.

Removing the big centrepiece model from each set because "big vehicles are hard for some other boxes to handle" is a convenient excuse, except they could have just as easily made it so that everyone had either a vehicle, or a way of handling them, when updating the contents.

I'm hoping to have the cash for at least one of the battleforce boxes that were announced instead. Still no Helbrute (those are usually quite cheap on ebay though), but if at the usual £145ish price + FLGS discount they look like really good value. Definitely leaning towards the one with the Termis if I have to choose, not much of a fan of jump pack models since they decided that flight stands were not derpy enough and everyone had to be mid-prance instead.

I’m surprised there’s any more models than are contained in the CP for those two armies TBH. Although dark elves and AI dwarves are a faction I don’t really get!

I think only old world gets dwarves ‘right’ in Warhammer. Fireslayers and whatever the airship boys are called in Sigmar ain’t it for my liking.

I actually don't mind the Votann and I'm slowly collecting a 2000pt army, but I'm more of a fan of the Necromunda Squats if I'm honest. They're much more in keeping with the original 1st Edition concept and just seem a bit more fun and characterful.

I don’t think the Votann are bad models or anything. In fact I watched a battle report a few weeks ago and quite admired them (a really good last stand scenario vs Tyranids).

It’s just the Squats of old did have that trad high fantasy thing I think they should have. Always remember thinking the Land Train in Epic was awesome too and very thematic. Gee Dubbs people have said in interviews they didn’t like the cliches and the humour in them though haven’t they.

Instead I think Votann almost look like mini marines. And I don’t get why you’d have armoured vehicles with vulnerable bubble canopies - although their vehicles *are* cool.

So it’s not that I think they are bad models at all, they just don’t give me that dwarfy goodness I’d want from them - and part of it is that the range is too small I think.

Got any lahmian medium Danno? Depending on *how* fucked it is that can bring it back to something less tarry or viscous, although it’s a compromise and the medium is expensive in itself of course. I did it with my old wraithbone pot recently, just tipped a healthy measure in. It hadn’t gone solid yet but had turned halfway to rubbery.

No, but I was looking at a 3rd party option anyway (I forget which but it was definitely mentioned in this thread). They have gone very very weird though - I have three pots of Rakarth Flesh. One looks alright, one looks like something from an unflushed toilet, and the last is both of the above but in separate parts of the pot.

I made the paint mistake recently too (following a large break due to my thumb/wrist surgery last year) I hadn't touched my paints so the Instar ones I first bought to get me back into the hobby are a mixture of fine and ruined. None of the citadel ones went bad though which is nice.

I found an untouched pot of 'ardcoat, I recall my thinking being I'd use it on completed miniatures to stop them being chipped, or the paint dulling, but I now think it's a bad idea as they'll probably look shiny? Anybody used it?

They're cool, but fuuuuuck me that's steep for a base!

I managed to resist the orcs this week and just picked up their supplement for the time being (along with the new Beta-Garmon campaign book for 30k, a couple of squads of Velataris and a plastic Malcador *COUGH*).

Waiting on high elves and wood elves for old world. Used to collect both (back around 3rd Ed times).