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Post by zephro on May 8, 2022 23:47:36 GMT
So which ones are Gladius, Armageddon, Sanctus Reach, Mechanicus, Legion, etc? Gladius is a 4X think re-skinned Civ but more war. It's fine, kinda fun for a few weekends. Armageddon is a re-skin of one of the Panzer Generals basically, if you like that sort of thing it is good. Sanctus Reach / Battle Sector are like old turn based pitched battle wargames. Mechanicus also an XCOM alike but yknow Adeptus Mechanicus Legion - dunno A lot of this shit is various Slitherine studios doing a 40K version of some strategy staple that they already do. Some of the people made Battlestar Galactica Deadlock so can be quite good. But wargames, the experience of the UI can vary wildly. Chaos Gate 2 is pretty ace so far. Not played that Necromunda game as the assault rifle looked so generic military shooter.
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Post by 😎 on May 9, 2022 0:57:20 GMT
Anyone else feel like we’re kind of in a golden age for GW at the moment? The new rules and releases are tight, models are excellent, paint and modeling tools are plenty and varied, the lore is excellent, even the videogames are more decent than not. Aside from the Cursed City nonsense where they basically pretended it didn’t exist for two years, and the heavy delays on Old World (GIVE ME BACK MY DOOM DIVERS), it’s all good.
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Post by Danno on May 9, 2022 1:07:24 GMT
Anyone else feel like we’re kind of in a golden age for GW at the moment? The new rules and releases are tight, models are excellent, paint and modeling tools are plenty and varied, the lore is excellent, even the videogames are more decent than not. Aside from the Cursed City nonsense where they basically pretended it didn’t exist for two years, and the heavy delays on Old World (GIVE ME BACK MY DOOM DIVERS), it’s all good. Generally yes, but codex creep in 40k is a major, major issue, such that I think there might a serious reset by 10th ed. There's just too much power in every release
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Post by zephro on May 9, 2022 9:02:33 GMT
Golden age for me would be the mid to late 90s. As I got Epic 40K, Necromunda, GorkaMorka, Battlefleet Gothic, Warmaster, Warhammer Quest, Blood Bowl were all basically out at the same time which was amazing.
I feel like the 2 main games have leant way more heavily into the list building and streamlining too much for me. But I'm an old grognard.
Minis now are brilliant though, even if there's too many kind of Space Marine.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 9:44:54 GMT
Bah, I have been trying but think I just can’t get into warhammer AOS. It is all so po faced and miserable and the models just aren’t fun. Everything is so grim dark. I miss the old warhammer. I want zany stuff like squig herders, squig katapults, nice clean models like the phoenix guard and such. This AOS just doesn’t scream fun in anyway, at least from a model painting perspective.
I am just not enjoying the painting, I just don’t like the whole look of this new system.
I think I may just ditch it and suck up the hundred quid or so of models as a loss and stop trying to force the fun. I am eyeing up bloodbowl and 40k instead. It is a shame, I fucking loved warhammer and would kill just to have a nice high elf or goblin army to paint.
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Post by Derblington on May 9, 2022 9:57:08 GMT
They're all still largely present, aren't they? Lumineth and Gloomspite cover the High Elves and Goblins?
I really like the new AoS models, personally. Lumineth, Sylvaneth, Idoneth, Seraphon, Orruks, Gloomspite and Ogors all look great. Some of the Death army models look nice too.
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Post by zephro on May 9, 2022 10:01:45 GMT
I think Fantasy Battle was always pretty grimdark though, it just had some extra silly stuff in there as well. AoS just does nothing for me as its basically, pick 1 unit from an old army and do that. When I really want Troll Slayers + Cannons + Gyrocopters, or Witch Elves + Black Guard etc. etc. Rather than just an army of Witch Elves.
Though really I miss the linear warfare of Fantasy Battle, it was more like a proper wargame and not a deck builder.
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Post by Danno on May 9, 2022 10:07:34 GMT
The Old World is still in development, hopefully they bring back the zany stuff
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Post by 😎 on May 9, 2022 17:29:37 GMT
There’s still a lot of weird fun stuff in AoS, it’s just not entirely centered around Orcs. The Kharadron have units that hose enemies down with high pressure beer from atop a steam powered airship, for example.
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Post by mikeck on May 10, 2022 13:49:13 GMT
Anyone else feel like we’re kind of in a golden age for GW at the moment? The new rules and releases are tight, models are excellent, paint and modeling tools are plenty and varied, the lore is excellent, even the videogames are more decent than not. Aside from the Cursed City nonsense where they basically pretended it didn’t exist for two years, and the heavy delays on Old World (GIVE ME BACK MY DOOM DIVERS), it’s all good. I am very much looking forward to Old World, I had a blast playing Warhammer in my teens when it was more of a full scale war (not a fan of objectives etc). I had a very fun Orcs/Gobbos army with Doom Divers, Fanatics, Squig Herders, Wolf-riders and Giants. As I'm not playing at the moment though and just painting I can agree that the models now are excellent. I am planning to get every Squig model I can from both Warhammer and Black Forge and just create some kind of Squigageddon diorama (hoping that when Old World comes out I can try and get as many squigs into an army as possible)
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Post by manfromdelmonte on May 10, 2022 18:59:32 GMT
Latest additions, Technomancer and Immortals.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 11, 2022 3:30:31 GMT
I never really played proper Warhammer other than in the very early days. (as opposed to 40k) Partly due to not being able to afford a 40k army AND a Warhammer army.
But I remember it being much more large scale wargamy. Square bases for models. Units being made up of ranks of models, and being attacked as units, rather than as individual models. Made things like flanking much more important.
I kinda had a WFB skaven army, but due to the aforementioned money thing, it was also cobbled together with a bunch of other WFB miniatures that I happened to have access to. Army lists be damned.
Did it remain like that, or did later editions go more skirmish/40k?
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Post by 😎 on May 11, 2022 4:44:12 GMT
Age of Sigmar (which is what the fantasy side is known as now) went fully 40k skirmish with round bases and lots of unique individual units. In lore terms basically the world was destroyed. Which was…divisive. The square bases and rank and file units are coming back in The Old World, but probably not for at least another year.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 11, 2022 4:56:39 GMT
I was more into WHFRP, so the world and the lore was the main thing for me. Hence no interesting in AoS.
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Post by oldschoolsavant on May 11, 2022 6:50:04 GMT
Always wanted a full on artillery Nuln army, backed with full regiments of all the golden Tilean pikemen etc, fronted by a ton of Knights Panther for a full on black/gold look.
Would never have been able to afford it, let alone paint it back in the day.
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Post by Dougs on May 11, 2022 8:12:09 GMT
It was my son's birthday yesterday and he asked for cash he could splash on Warhammer. He's still learning, needs a proper carry case and a codex, and has his eye on some necron bike thingies. This shit is expensive, yo. He also managed to mangle his Doom Scythe, the bloke in the shop reckoned he could repair it though.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on May 11, 2022 12:52:21 GMT
Horus Heresy: Legions is a rather good Hearthstone clone. Lots of lots of variety, lots and lots of badly acted dialogue.
Free, too.
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Post by Leolian'sBro on May 11, 2022 12:53:40 GMT
It was my son's birthday yesterday and he asked for cash he could splash on Warhammer. He's still learning, needs a proper carry case and a codex, and has his eye on some necron bike thingies. This shit is expensive, yo. He also managed to mangle his Doom Scythe, the bloke in the shop reckoned he could repair it though. Odd suggestion: you could go with the ‘up front cost’ approach and splash for a 3D printer? They’re getting good and cheap these days.
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Post by Blue_Mike on May 11, 2022 12:58:40 GMT
Leagues Of Votann are all clones:
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 11, 2022 13:34:59 GMT
Are they actively avoiding the term Squats? He also managed to mangle his Doom Scythe, When I was a lad, this was called 'customizing', or possibly 'battle damage'. And was always absolutely intentional... honest.
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Post by Danno on May 11, 2022 13:37:47 GMT
Are they actively avoiding the term Squats? He also managed to mangle his Doom Scythe, When I was a lad, this was called 'customizing', or possibly 'battle damage'. And was always absolutely intentional... honest. Yep. Whether that's to make them more exciting or because (more likely) it's easier to litigate to protect their IP, I do not know
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Post by Dougs on May 11, 2022 13:40:23 GMT
He also managed to mangle his Doom Scythe, When I was a lad, this was called 'customizing', or possibly 'battle damage'. And was always absolutely intentional... honest. In this case, he broke the stand. After also ballsing up the build with his mate.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 11, 2022 13:45:21 GMT
Special Low Altitude Doom Scythe huh? Good for taking them out at the shins.
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Post by zephro on May 11, 2022 17:34:51 GMT
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Post by manfromdelmonte on May 12, 2022 16:43:12 GMT
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Post by 😎 on May 13, 2022 0:43:48 GMT
I’ve gotten so into the new Chaos Gate game that I may have just spent $300 on Grey Knights.
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Post by Bill in the rain on May 13, 2022 10:51:44 GMT
I just started reading the Grey Knights ebook, because they used to be one of my faves. I suspect it's going to be a bit rubbish.
I wonder if my parents threw out my old Grey Knights terminators? I don't suppose old GW/Citadel Miniatures are worth a fortune now are they? Collectors items or something?
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Post by Danno on May 13, 2022 11:10:41 GMT
I just started reading the Grey Knights ebook, because they used to be one of my faves. I suspect it's going to be a bit rubbish. I wonder if my parents threw out my old Grey Knights terminators? I don't suppose old GW/Citadel Miniatures are worth a fortune now are they? Collectors items or something? Some go for a fair bit, especially some of the Rogue Trader era models. You won't be retiring on it
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Post by zephro on May 13, 2022 22:41:50 GMT
I bet the RT Grey Knights are worth some decent cash, the third ed ones probably less so.
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Post by Mark1412 on May 14, 2022 19:34:30 GMT
Has anyone here painted/made MDF scenery? Had a lot of fun with the Octarius scenery in the Kill Zone box and really like the look of the Underhive Sector but £140 is really out there even by the standards of this hobby. The TT combat slums kits are quite similar and much cheaper but I've put some MDF paint racks together and a) they were a shit to put together and b) is everything I've learned about painting plastic out the window? The internet is wildly out of sync on this one. All sorts out there.
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