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Post by ForkHandles on Sept 24, 2024 17:06:22 GMT
How many games systems are you involved in man 😂 Well, I mean, too much but never enough springs to mind.
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Post by zephro on Sept 24, 2024 17:09:10 GMT
Definitely don't buy any kits with the tiny little fucking bits first... I'm looking at you Goliath Gang Leader's cigar! FUCK OFF. The dark elf blood bowl kit is the absolute worst for this. Mines still not painted fully after that and I bought it and basecoated when it came out. Oh all the little blades and stuff? They're OK I found as they're sort of external. This prick's cigar though, you have to angle it into a tiny hole and the whole thing is shorter than the pinch point of my fingers vs where the tips of them smush against the model. It was impossible and it just got dropped behind something so I've got a gurning moron instead.
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Post by nexus6 on Sept 24, 2024 17:55:46 GMT
Zephro is King Charles?!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2024 21:30:55 GMT
Took me two hours to build 5 Ork Kommandos tonight. The builds are actually quite easy compared to my more egregious tyranids or say the Redemptor Dreadnought, but the sprues are OBNOXIOUSLY laid out.
Funnily enough my other half feigned interest asking what I’m building. I called her on it and she admitted she was just trying to be nice.
Now it’s taken half a dozen years to finally get her to watch LOTR but I thought OK she’ll at least have a frame of reference. ‘Ok without trying to read anything, here they are’ (showing the back of the box).
‘I dunno…turtles?’
I can’t tell if she’s brutal but cunning or cunning but brutal.
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Post by Bill in the rain on Sept 25, 2024 4:30:23 GMT
But the LotR orcs aren't green.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 25, 2024 9:27:11 GMT
The current issue of that Combat Patrol magazine is a tenner, but three paints and a brush for that price is still good.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Sept 25, 2024 11:10:04 GMT
Fauxhammer has that down as being more than the retail price separately.
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Post by nexus6 on Sept 25, 2024 11:39:23 GMT
Reckon last week was the last one I would buy. Not interested in the paints or the brush as I have brushes and can get the exact paints I want.
The mag has served its purpose though - some decent minis and a small test of some basic rules to see that we enjoy it, and its convinced me to get Kill Team pre-ordered.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2024 11:56:38 GMT
I really wanted issue 5 because of the unique flamer sergeant, as I’ve split my Infernus into 2x5 and the sergeant builds are too close for what I like.
Didn’t realise it could be preordered yet, Travelling Man limit it to 2 per customer (why not one?!) and have sold out. This £8.99 magazine is of course £24.99 plus postage all over eBay. I just HATE HATE HATE the scalping scum that make every hobby and every event an ordeal.
If anybody manages to get hold of this mini I will swap for the Space Wolves hero in their Combat Patrol plus an unopened box of Evocators on Dracolines. Just putting it out there!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2024 12:11:42 GMT
The value of CP magazine can’t really be disputed. It comes to a point though where I have to question would anybody ever need it all. Unless you genuinely only play Combat Patrol, why would you need 18 armies or whatever it is. Nobody will ever paint all of that, and several of the Combat Patrols are already incompatible, strictly speaking, with the current published game.
Then you have having to deal with Hachette when the realisation hits that you no longer want it, or if/when issues go missing.
It’s great in theory and god knows I was tempted by the bells and whistles premium subscription but practicality firmly won over, as well as practical experience with these types of subscriptions.
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Post by Zyrr on Sept 25, 2024 15:13:20 GMT
How about this as an alternative? www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/getting-started-with-warhammer-40k-2023-eng?queryID=c2e7ae2c8d2ba836433a0622bbe717caIt's not quite the same, but the Infernus Marine (and Termagent!) are both exclusive sculpts for this intro magazine thing they've just released. And the price isn't bad for 2 one-offs. Also, if you ever want some more alternative Infernus or Termagents the two paint sets (that have a sprue with just 3 minis on) contain exclusive sculpts that aren't in the other kits, although their poses aren't wildly different from the norm.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2024 19:52:30 GMT
I’ve given into touting. But not the 25 quid one.
I just wanted that model. Which I think is actually based off a Hellblaster.
Edit - had a look at the suggestions. I do quite like that Termagant in the start collecting.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 25, 2024 20:41:52 GMT
I could have seen this scratching a lot of people's itches, given the love for both 40k and Factorio around here:
There's a lot to unpack in that article though, not least of all this bit:
But not being able to fathom how anyone at all can be into tabletop miniatures at all?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2024 20:56:58 GMT
Hmmm. We weren’t that well to do in the 90s and I remember my folks baulking at the cost of 2nd edition for my birthday, this would have been about 1994. Inflation puts that at a little over 60 quid now. When you look at what you got with paper backs and paper-y dreadnought, would you not argue it was always expensive?
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 25, 2024 21:09:18 GMT
Now that I think about it, I was only ever allowed to look at the Argos catalogue to point out things I'd like for christmas.
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Sept 25, 2024 21:12:05 GMT
20 Marines, 20 Orks, 20 Gretchin for the equivalent of £60
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11 Marines and 27 Tyranids for £67.50 rrp
Depends how much you prefer quality and variety of models.
2nd ed might be better for players, but the latest set is far better for painters.
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Post by Danno on Sept 25, 2024 22:55:41 GMT
Hmmm. We weren’t that well to do in the 90s and I remember my folks baulking at the cost of 2nd edition for my birthday, this would have been about 1994. Inflation puts that at a little over 60 quid now. When you look at what you got with paper backs and paper-y dreadnought, would you not argue it was always expensive? Glue that Bolter parallel to my fucking chest. And that Flamer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2024 23:23:11 GMT
Leviathan was an amazing set, and Skaventide looked pretty similar. The models were plentiful, all new and you got a dreadnought, two huge tyrannids, two other pretty large ones, all the gaunts, and then three unique big marine characters, a Terminator Squad and 15 other marines, 5 of those being the really detailed and varied Sternguard. Then the hardback core back, which is really an amazing piece, great quality, great artwork, hardback, quality paper and a ribbon.
I got that for £120 - I’d say objectively it’s worth way more than twice the starter set for 2nd ed, which would be sixty-ish adjusted for inflation. I don’t think it’s any cheaper now but you get a lot of goodness if you manage to nab the core launch boxes.
Yep, it’s a lot more streamlined and corporate now. And going into a Warhammer shop is just not the experience it was when I was a kid (it really was magic back in the 90s for me). But is there actually an argument that for certain things, boxes like Indomitus, the one before that (I forget), Soul Wars, Leviathan, Skaventide and now Hivestorm - that we’ve never had it so good?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2024 23:24:49 GMT
Hmmm. We weren’t that well to do in the 90s and I remember my folks baulking at the cost of 2nd edition for my birthday, this would have been about 1994. Inflation puts that at a little over 60 quid now. When you look at what you got with paper backs and paper-y dreadnought, would you not argue it was always expensive? Glue that Bolter parallel to my fucking chest. And that Flamer. The MVP models in that were the Gretchin with the autoguns.
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Post by zephro on Sept 26, 2024 8:50:47 GMT
I think 2nd edition probably worked out cheaper as a full army was a lot less models in the end.
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Post by nexus6 on Sept 26, 2024 11:05:18 GMT
Hmmm. We weren’t that well to do in the 90s and I remember my folks baulking at the cost of 2nd edition for my birthday, this would have been about 1994. Inflation puts that at a little over 60 quid now. When you look at what you got with paper backs and paper-y dreadnought, would you not argue it was always expensive? This is funny - the ‘member berries thread has a post from Blu Mike with a link to a specific page of the ‘94 Argos calendar. You should have a look…
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2024 11:15:34 GMT
Hmmm. We weren’t that well to do in the 90s and I remember my folks baulking at the cost of 2nd edition for my birthday, this would have been about 1994. Inflation puts that at a little over 60 quid now. When you look at what you got with paper backs and paper-y dreadnought, would you not argue it was always expensive? This is funny - the ‘member berries thread has a post from Blu Mike with a link to a specific page of the ‘94 Argos calendar. You should have a look… I dunno with my lot whether it was that stuff was genuinely an struggle/out of reach or that they looked at stuff and whether they perceived it as value. I suspect there was some in between as I got a C64 instead of the Amiga I requested (def the right choice thanks parents). I never got Manta Force either. But I specifically remember my dad always going on about how much of a rip off it was. My dad was unemployed for at least two years* in the early nineties, trying bits of self employment that didn’t really pay off, so when you look back with your grown up hat it’s nice they made those sacrifices so I could ignore my family and paint Termagants aged 41 and three quarters. Sorry, probably slightly the wrong thread. *De-unionised the workforce illegally. Clearly not upholding The Greater Good.
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Post by Blue_Mike on Sept 26, 2024 14:05:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2024 15:07:42 GMT
I don’t know how to feel. I went in determined to be hateful and not laugh, but ‘gainz workshop’ sadly got me.
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Post by Zyrr on Sept 26, 2024 16:50:34 GMT
I met Steve Conlin at an event about 5/6 years ago (could have been Warhammer Fest, or maybe a Black Library Weekender, I forget), he's actually a really nice chap and is naturally very funny. Glad to see he's still getting the chance to do his James Workshop bit
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Post by zephro on Sept 26, 2024 18:01:47 GMT
And yet bafflingly the back button still doesn't work right (well not on my Ubuntu laptop).
The new filter functions are great though, I can get straight to the games I actually want to see.
Just needs a pesky filter Space Marines button.
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Post by Danno on Sept 26, 2024 18:26:28 GMT
Glue that Bolter parallel to my fucking chest. And that Flamer. The MVP models in that were the Gretchin with the autoguns. 40k's version of the single Lego brick if you leave them on the floor
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2024 14:48:34 GMT
Managed to get my Ork Kommandos primed on my lunch break with this nice little lift of the bad weather. Just wondering if any Killteam vets here can weigh in on this as if I could get another team built and primed over the weekend it would be great. So…
I have a box of Kasrkin. Unlike the Orks, which was ‘build everything you want and just take less Boyz’, it doesn’t appear possible to build everything for this Guard team. There *is* a seemingly universally agreed build, which is Sarge with plasma pistol, three gunners (plasma, melta, grenade launcher), then all other operatives and I think one remaining model as a basic trooper.
So for anyone that’s seen editions come and go, and because I might actually get to play this game, is it likely to be a better idea to hold off until release to finalise loadouts? I don’t want to mess about with magnets particularly on models this smol. But on the other hand I’d really like to start having stuff painted up.
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Post by Zyrr on Sept 27, 2024 16:46:46 GMT
Yep, that Kasrkin build you mention is literally the defacto meta build for the outgoing edition, but I would definitely proceed with caution building them right now until we've seen the new team compositions as GW do have a nasty habit of changing things up to encourage existing players to buy another box. I mean, it'll probably stay exactly the same and everybody will continue to ignore the flamer anyway - unless the Gallowdark scenery suddenly comes back as the most popular Kill Zone
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2024 16:49:13 GMT
I might just do what I want anyway - I actually really like the look of the plasma sergeant - apparently plasma is being nerfed - it’s more along the lines of will they change it and make you take half of the team as battleline or something.
Side note - I do think 40K should insist on battleline!
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