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Nice to see Dalek getting some love. One of the very best shows I ever saw.

It was a combo of pre written stuff and improvised. When he struggles freestyling he goes into something pre written and then back into freestyling again when he thinks of something.

He's technically one of the best rappers ever, in with a shout as goat. He always outshines everyone when he's featured too.

I'm not a Kanye fan. Well outside of his production and a few songs. His early stuff was much better and I can see why people were a fan, but his recent stuff is try hard bullshit. I find it unlistenable.

Lauryn Hill has a classic that you should check out. Lady Rage worked with Dr Dre and has some good stuff. Foxy Brown is OK.

I've only listened to his first two albums and LR is by far the best. There's loads of sections where vocally he just doesn't nail it. Sometimes I can't tell if it's suppose to be comical or not (he seems to have a sense of humour?). I think I find the fact he doesn't come off as very cool endearing. Three of his albums appear on the list I've been working though (nearly done with it now) and it was giving me that 'old rap was better' feeling. The Cool was rad though

This is great, makes me sad how shit the majority of modern rap is. Especially the mainstream stuff.

Have to say, having listened to their first three albums, I don't love OutKast. It's not a reflection of if I think they're talented or not, just not feeling it. Andre 3k's voice kind of grates on me

Listened to some Aesop Rock, MF DOOM and Jedi Mind Trick which banged or slapped or fucked. I don't know

Have you listened to Sage Francis? I liked a few tracks on Non-Prophets but I haven't listened to anything else that made me think the MC was a bit of a wanker. I'm not sure what it was, maybe there was a lot of mysogyny in it (I think). I mean, most rappers talk about killing people so it probably shouldn't bother me. I suppose it's strange which things bother us/we give a free pass to for some reason

No.

He's a great MC, has some amazing songs and albums, normally shines on features but I can't stand his voice.

It's quite nasely and goes right through me. He's obviously very talented but it's a personal quirk that makes me dislike him.

Plus I'm a massive Nas fan so fuck Jay z.

They have one of the most famous rap fueds ever. Stillmatic is basically a big fuck you to Jay Z. Listen to Takeover and then listen to Ether,it had Jay Z crying on the radio.

Kanye did a lot of production for Jay Z so it makes sense you aren't a fan.

If you haven't listened to the Griselda lot they're definitely worth a listen. Especially Benny The Butcher and Conway.

Freddie Gibbs has some great albums out recently.

It might be worth listing, say your top 5 rappers, and I'd probably be able to give better recommendations based on that. And obviously listening to your favourites discography.

And maybe look at a list of historic rap beefs and find the diss records associated with them.

On the subject of Kanye West, I do think he had some talent. And not just his initial stuff. I think 808s and Heartbreak was pretty cool and had a huge influence, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy had some moments and I legitimately liked Yeezus, for a commercial artist it had a remarkably brutal production, very atonal. I think that was the last thing he did that I actually liked, since then he just seems to have been consumed by his already massive ego, and possibly other mental health issues.

I have to admit, I don't *like* the influence 808s had on rap in general, but for me it worked on that particular album, as an experiment.

The album he did with Jay-Z was very good too.