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Post by Solid-SCB- on May 29, 2022 17:42:34 GMT
I don't doubt there were issues with phony tickets, possibly resulting in people climbing the gates. But that doesn't give you carte blanche to start acting like thugs. Seems very much like they were waiting for an excuse to let people have it.
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Post by Zomoniac on May 29, 2022 17:47:03 GMT
The elephant in the room seems to be if the organisation was such a disaster then how come we aren’t seeing similar footage of the Real fans? Other side of the ground is more open. Liverpool end had to use the south west metro station, all fans were diverted to one narrow road for security checks and that created the huge bottleneck. Wilson goes into a bit of detail on today’s Football Weekly, the media entrance is on the same side so he experienced it firsthand. |
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Post by TheSaint on May 29, 2022 17:50:58 GMT
I’d assume 40k Real fans also didn’t travel without tickets.
Edit: Haven’t had a chance to listen to the new football weekly yet.
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Post by kal on May 29, 2022 17:55:48 GMT
Being English football fans, and Liverpool fans in particular, gives the police an excuse. Just like being an immigrant does normally. Again this is a common problem with the police in France.
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Post by JonFE on May 29, 2022 18:22:54 GMT
First thing I do when I book a weekend city break is take a 12 week linguistic course so the people I'm giving business to treat me with common decency in a polite manner. I tried learning a bit of Greek when I went to Cyprus last year, to try seem less like an English dickhead in Cyprus. Quickly discovered that pretty much everyone working in hospitality there is Eastern European with a decent level of English and not a word of Greek. Turns out it’s about as useful as learning Welsh for a trip to Cardiff. You should put your troubles to some use and visit Greece if you get the chance; I'm quite sure you'll get some (mostly older) folks working in hospitality that would love to converse in Greek! |
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Post by Trowel 🏴 on May 29, 2022 19:31:43 GMT
Interesting thread, with UEFA putting the blame squarely on the French authorities
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Post by Solid-SCB- on May 29, 2022 19:41:18 GMT
Sounds like someone should have left a tip when they were throwing a bung over for the hosting rights.
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Post by Frog on May 29, 2022 19:51:16 GMT
Was due to be in St Petersburg originally and France offered to do it due to the war.
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Post by JuniorFE on May 29, 2022 20:19:56 GMT
FWIW re: language, with how widespread English is nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in hospitality that doesn't have at least a rudimentary grasp of the language, regardless of the country. As long as the area you're at sees some level of tourism at least.
Which is to say, anyone that's an asshole to tourists that happen to be unable to speak the country language fluently is, well, an asshole. It's a nice gesture if you make the effort to learn it, to be sure, and it will likely be appreciated in turn, but getting subpar service (or straight up scams) just because you didn't is 100% a bellend move imo.
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Post by スコットランド on May 29, 2022 20:29:42 GMT
FWIW re: language, with how widespread English is nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in hospitality that doesn't have at least a rudimentary grasp of the language, regardless of the country. As long as the area you're at sees some level of tourism at least. Which is to say, anyone that's an asshole to tourists that happen to be unable to speak the country language fluently is, well, an asshole. It's a nice gesture if you make the effort to learn it, to be sure, and it will likely be appreciated in turn, but getting subpar service (or straight up scams) just because you didn't is 100% a bellend move imo. I wasn't trying to suggest that French hospitality staff can/so/should be rude due to people not speaking their language, you should expect decent service no matter where you go as long as you're not being a prick obviously). My point is that speaking French seems to make a big difference in France , you could say this applies anywhere but IMO seems to be more pronounced in France. In Paris you get shit service in tourist traps same as the world over, I don't think language is the point. |
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Post by JuniorFE on May 29, 2022 20:33:41 GMT
FWIW re: language, with how widespread English is nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in hospitality that doesn't have at least a rudimentary grasp of the language, regardless of the country. As long as the area you're at sees some level of tourism at least. Which is to say, anyone that's an asshole to tourists that happen to be unable to speak the country language fluently is, well, an asshole. It's a nice gesture if you make the effort to learn it, to be sure, and it will likely be appreciated in turn, but getting subpar service (or straight up scams) just because you didn't is 100% a bellend move imo. I wasn't trying to suggest that French hospitality staff can/so/should be rude due to people not speaking their language, you should expect decent service no matter where you go as long as you're not being a prick obviously). My point is that speaking French seems to make a big difference in France , you could say this applies anywhere but IMO seems to be more pronounced in France. In Paris you get shit service in tourist traps same as the world over, I don't think language is the point. Can't comment on that as I haven't visited myself. I do recall a lot of rumors that the French are more elitist than most in that regard, though. And of course, not speaking the language on its own is never an excuse for others to be rude to you. |
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Post by スコットランド on May 29, 2022 20:47:12 GMT
I don't think we, as native English speakers , often don't realise just how privileged we are when it comes to travelling tbh.
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Post by dmukgr on May 29, 2022 21:04:37 GMT
Speaking Greek (extremely badly) in Greece only ever got Greek replies in places that knew me as a regular as everywhere else everyone wanted to practice their English.
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Post by geefe on May 29, 2022 21:52:02 GMT
Tbf, The Cypriots are pretty fluent in English or at least the ones near any military camps. Lived there as a kid and they'd only ever want to speak in English with us rather than teach us Greek. Out of all the countries I've lived I the Dutch are the best at English. Better than most Brits. Haha the shit I find on this forum. Episkopi, late 90s. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 21:55:08 GMT
Heh, Akrotiri mid 90s. One of the nicer postings we had.
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Post by askew on May 29, 2022 21:56:02 GMT
You going to discover you used to be classmates?
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Post by ignatiusjreilly on May 29, 2022 22:00:05 GMT
Akrotiri 86-89
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Post by geefe on May 29, 2022 22:02:44 GMT
We nearly went to the dump that was BG but landed in Epi as it went through development. Probably the best 2 1/2 years of my life, really. Troodos mountains one day and beach the next.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 22:38:24 GMT
You going to discover you used to be classmates? It wouldn't be that strange. I met my wife in Germany at 14,her family got posted a few years later and we met at a random party in the UK 10 yrs later. geefe The best thing about Cyprus is that school would finish at 1.30 so you had the rest of the day at the beach. |
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Post by スコットランド on May 29, 2022 22:48:57 GMT
I don’t understand what London has to do with anything. Just the forum Scottish contingent unable to resist a dig at anything about England. Where's the imaginary dig at England ? |
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Post by clemfandango on May 30, 2022 12:45:52 GMT
Been away camping for the weekend so I wasn’t around to jinx the final.
So the best team in the world, of all time ever, only won a domestic cup double? What a shame....😊
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Post by Gruf on May 30, 2022 12:58:01 GMT
Heh, Akrotiri mid 90s. One of the nicer postings we had. Dad got posted there in there in the 70's, pretty idyllic, then the Turkish invasion took place, not so idyllic. Evacuated across the island to safety. |
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Post by Zomoniac on May 30, 2022 13:37:33 GMT
Been away camping for the weekend so I wasn’t around to jinx the final. So the best team in the world, of all time ever, only won a domestic cup double? What a shame....😊 Team with the world’s best forward line plays three cup finals without scoring, but loses league to a team that scored 99 goals without having any forwards. Football’s weird these days. |
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Post by simple on May 30, 2022 13:47:40 GMT
Madrid did cheat by having Courtois stopping the ball to be fair
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Post by barchetta on May 30, 2022 15:41:08 GMT
Back home after a long weekend music festival. Caught the scoreline on the night and wasn't surprised. Far from convincing in the domestic cups and flagging by the end of the season, ripe for the taking by a Real side that had wrapped things up.
Will get round to the highlights later but still happy to have a couple of bits of silverware. Those barren years weren't so long ago.
Maybe the media can dial down the hyperbole next season. But when subscriptions are there to be sold, I doubt that will happen.
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Post by gammonbanter on Jun 3, 2022 18:50:06 GMT
My god, the stuff that is coming out from the Paris final is awful!
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Post by daibonehead on Jun 4, 2022 11:21:18 GMT
Liverpool fans doing their thing? What thing would that be? |
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Post by daibonehead on Jun 4, 2022 11:37:02 GMT
I do wonder if the old reputation of English fans still exist in some European countries so areshole police/security don't give any benefit of the doubt and have an excuse to be pricks. Also exists in this thread, it seems. |
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Post by nexus6 on Aug 24, 2022 20:54:14 GMT
Great to see both Celtic and Rangers in the group stages of the Champions League this year 👍🏼
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Post by Dougs on Aug 24, 2022 22:12:09 GMT
That's a cracking result for Rangers. PSV are no mugs.
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