Bongo Heracles
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 21, 2024 21:51:39 GMT
No summons in there, took a good few goes to get him down. He has a few windows of oportunity to get some good hits in or heal. He was actually a decent training dummy in the end. He repeatedly pushed my shit in until I actually remembered how to play this stupid game. He also really sets the tone. The first ‘boss’ enemy I met and he could two shot my L160 end game character. |
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Post by Wizzard_Ook on Jun 21, 2024 21:55:52 GMT
Was going to wait a bit and complete a couple of other games I’m working on before starting the dlc … but here I am and a hour and half in or so in the lands beyond.
Just been generally exploring the first area up to the bridge. Not crossed that but gone where the game kinda of directs you and exploring the cliffs. Finding it business as usual so far though I am expected to be twated into the shadow realm sooner or later.
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Post by Danno on Jun 21, 2024 22:08:07 GMT
I’ve faffed about in the starting area all evening. Haven’t done a single boss yet, I’ve just been messing with a new STR weapon to see if it beats Heavy Great Stars for pure damage. It does. Black Steel Greathammer +25 does more damage than Heavy Great Stars +25, when imbued with Holy (Order’s Blade). It doesn’t have Bleed but it does have an extra Holy attack with the guard counter, so on balance I reckon it wins when also using a shield Is that the thing those big hammer+shield knights are wielding, with the Radagon aoe afters? |
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 21, 2024 22:15:54 GMT
Just fought a normal enemy in a lava area. Hardest enemy so far. I don’t have the correct damage type weapon to kill it so I had to do it the long patient way. Stone skin, red crystal in its back for anyone who has been there. I had to look through my inventory and on this character I just didn’t have the damage type needed. That was long.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 21, 2024 22:18:13 GMT
Hahahaha...these bosses hit like a fucking truck don't they? Just did my first in a mausoleum took about 3 goes once I got wind of what I had to do but fuck me. This is going to be a test of all my skills.
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Post by Duffking on Jun 21, 2024 22:19:47 GMT
I’ve faffed about in the starting area all evening. Haven’t done a single boss yet, I’ve just been messing with a new STR weapon to see if it beats Heavy Great Stars for pure damage. It does. Black Steel Greathammer +25 does more damage than Heavy Great Stars +25, when imbued with Holy (Order’s Blade). It doesn’t have Bleed but it does have an extra Holy attack with the guard counter, so on balance I reckon it wins when also using a shield I've been using that.
Protip - although you're triple dipping on resistances, you can give it a flame art ash of war and it'll have triple damage types. Right now for me at +5 on the scadutree blessing and using the fire scorpion charm, it's got an attack rating of 1261, which is just insane. |
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jun 21, 2024 22:25:54 GMT
Had anyone else killed Yoda yet, you will know if you have, the speedy little bastard 😂 Haha yep. Nimble sort ahead. |
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 21, 2024 22:47:06 GMT
Do you all play online first time through? I’m tempted to go offline. I just found the +3 fire defence talisman which is great but it was secret and it was handed to me by other players lovely sign posting.
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Post by wunty on Jun 21, 2024 22:51:46 GMT
Just did a particularly nasty catacomb. Think the boss at the end would have been a nightmare without the mimic tear. Three sub bosses down and still just generally exploring. Difficulty wise it’s pretty much as expected for post endgame. It’s not as brutal as the Bloodborne or ds3 dlc yet at least. Mind you Bloodborne is a high bar. I pretty played that through my own tears.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 21, 2024 23:03:03 GMT
Man this is the only game I'm scared of exploring because I know there's going to be something just around the corner that will just absolutely destroy me.
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Post by Duffking on Jun 21, 2024 23:36:10 GMT
4 bosses down and frankly so far I think they've all been absolute wank. Either just kinda nothing, camera shitfests or frame trap filled borefests where you barely get a chance to attack and have to rely on staggers.
Spoiler for the boss of the area to the right of the crossroads - it's stuff like this that annoys me. I assume if I'd rolled more to the right I'd have not been hit here, but it feels like bullshit to roll an attack and then get hit by *another* before you get control returned to you.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 21, 2024 23:46:24 GMT
Yeah, just done the ‘first’ one, the lion. Its special move is freaking the camera out so you can’t see what’s going on.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 21, 2024 23:50:24 GMT
Yeah, just done the ‘first’ one, the lion. Its special move is freaking the camera out so you can’t see what’s going on. Just did the first boss this very minute and for the life of me I don't know how you could comfortably do that without a summons and try to parse where you would get a your own hits in. It was extremely unreadable as a boss. |
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 21, 2024 23:51:55 GMT
Done for the day. Finished at both levels upgrade at 6 what ever that means. No ides of what max is. Game is messed up when a giant lobster is more dangerous than a dragon.
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Post by Duffking on Jun 21, 2024 23:56:35 GMT
I'm summonless so far as my original playthrough was summonless too, but I can see myself giving in by the end of this.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 21, 2024 23:57:46 GMT
Fuck that noise, I use my lady Tiche wherever and whenever.
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Post by Duffking on Jun 22, 2024 0:12:10 GMT
Yeah, I just get a lot of enjoyment (or did, ha) from going toe-to-toe with bosses, and I feel like having them just dilutes it a bit for me. I need to find one that'll serve the role of "attention grabber" without being a tiche-level of "lmao I'll kill the boss for you".
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 22, 2024 0:16:10 GMT
The gaol bosses gave me that enjoyment, this DLC feels very much centred around summons and I'm all for it.
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Post by Tuffty on Jun 22, 2024 0:16:20 GMT
Blackgoal Knight and that tall fire fucker down. Consider that a good night after a few bottles of cider. The great hammer with the holy guard counter seems to fit me just fine so will look into upgrading that. Haven't met any of the bullshit encounters you guys have had yet and no doubt that will come but so far, glad to be playing
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Post by neems on Jun 22, 2024 0:37:14 GMT
I may have done a little light reading to find the martial arts...oh yes. They are so good, finishing off one of those hammer fatties with a charged kick.
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Post by gibroon on Jun 22, 2024 0:48:38 GMT
I can see why it's taken 2 years to come out. It's bloody massive. Ended up in a completely new area, I must admit there was not a whole lot there but it was actually quite blissful for a while but then well, I won't spoil it. Stopped for the night.
Happy hunting folks.
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jun 22, 2024 2:17:57 GMT
Was just one-shot killed by a trash mob soldier who threw a fire pot at me from a castle battlement. I have 60 VIG! Seems like the fall damage got added to the pot's attack or something? Glitch?
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jun 22, 2024 5:49:06 GMT
I'm starting to fear my 30 VIG may be a bit low...
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Post by Frog on Jun 22, 2024 6:19:38 GMT
It might be that any more than 40 is a waste, you get 2 shot even with 60. Needs more time and testing on that front though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 22, 2024 7:10:47 GMT
I have 50 vig and it feels like it’s a ‘starting a souls game’ sweet spot. Even trash mobs can knock off 30% if you’re not paying attention and field champions can hit you for like 80.
They also seem very keen on field champions having stupidly long combos so if you mistime a roll or your poise breaks, you’re fucked.
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Post by Tuffty on Jun 22, 2024 7:24:09 GMT
I think the thing to understand is that base stats only go so far. These new ashes that buff up your character is key to staying alive here and there seem to be a fair few knocking around. Use them at the campfire when you can
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jun 22, 2024 8:28:32 GMT
Yeah, I've boosted them a bit. It's hard to measure how much they are helping, but I assume they are. I've got to admit I've not felt terrible about my low vig but it is what I'm focusing on pumping points into (I've levelled twice since starting the DLC, one boss down). Though one exception is the dude many have mentioned in the first mausoleum, who one-hits me, so I've left him for later.
I don't seem to be doing any serious damage with Rivers of Blood compared to the main game, though it does stagger mobs quickly. Spells, on the other hand, are working very well, so mixing up sorcery and incantations depending on who I'm facing is really where it's at for my build.
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Post by neems on Jun 22, 2024 8:44:21 GMT
I really need to respec, my two current favourite weapons have almost no scaling with my current build. I always find it a bit of a drag though.
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 22, 2024 8:57:30 GMT
I wish respeccing wasn’t such a knacker ache. Nioh/Wo Long really understands that’s half the fun.
I want to use that big bopper sword I got from the blackgaol knight but I really can’t be bothered with the faff so I’m just using the same build I ran for like 100+ hours.
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Post by loto on Jun 22, 2024 9:06:47 GMT
Scudatree shard tip - if you see a common shadow enemy with a pot on his head make a beeline for him and kill it for a shard. I think it’s guaranteed on first kill. There’s one southeast of the first proper grace you find |
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