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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 7:53:34 GMT
Trying to avoid spoilers while enjoying the pre-release excitement and hype is tough. quadfather Do you have the crystal tear that negates the healing/blood-loss attack at the end of his first phase? That's much more important than his shackle IMO. Ah, probably not. Where's that then?  |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 7:54:21 GMT
Turns out I'm level 115. It's taken me half an hour to get used to it and lots of deaths etc. Anyway, I can get mohg to about 50% if I'm lucky and then everything goes pear shaped. So i followed a guide to get mohgs shackle. Yeah, that didn't end well - subterranean shunning grounds appears to be full of complete bastards. And I lost my way. Still, have to say, whilst I got my arse handed to me plenty of times, it was actually a good laugh as I haven't played for months and months. Where is his fucking shackle though, anyone know? Not that far into the shunning grounds, there's a big room with pipes you can run along, high above the floor...and loads of those annoying gargoyles so be careful. Down on the floor there are two (or three?) giant lobsters / crayfish and it's around there somewhere (I think there may be a few items down there, can't remember). It's somewhere near an entrance to a catacombs so that's worth making a beeline for as there's a safe site of lost grace just there before you enter the catacombs, which gives you a good position to suicide run and hoover up all the items on the floor behind you. Unless you have a good way of taking on the lobsters in which case do that. As Nanocrystal says, the shackle is of fairly limited use against Mohg, but no harm in finding it. Right, got it. Cheers. The crystal sounds more useful then |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 7:55:48 GMT
Finally reached Mohg (the real one). Well, his area at least, still need to get to the actual boss arena. Gives me a couple of evenings to repeatedly get torn apart by him. How essential is the physick considered for this fight? I don't have it and not sure if I'm going to be able to do that quest line now. To be honest, I've somehow managed to miss pretty much all the NPC quests in this play through. If you have a +10 mimic you can sit back and watch. He is nails without a mimic but if your mimic is good you can just focus on occasionally getting aggro and then dodging a bit until your mimic does its thing. Re the physick I didn’t have it and my mimic killed it first try whilst I was holding my phone with my shoulder to my ear on a call. Just be ready to heal when he does the move around half health. How does this work then because my mimic +10 lasts about 30-40 seconds. There is absolutely no way it can kill mohg on its own- I tried it multiple times. Am I doing something wrong? |
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 19, 2024 7:57:47 GMT
I do not have a +10. It is only a +4, although it certainly has been very helpful against lots of other bosses (Commander Niall got absolutely wrecked and I remember that being a particularly hard fight when I played at release).
I should probably try and dig out the upgrade item I'm missing to level up the mimic, as I'm sure I have the necessary material for beyond +5 (same with my weapon, which is at +20 and missing 1 stone to be able to upgrade it).
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jun 19, 2024 8:00:33 GMT
(Edit: this was in response to Vandelay 's earlier post about beating him) I can't even remember how I beat him to be honest. I did see a vid recently where someone set their spirit summon on him (pretty sure it was Tiche) and then while he was distracted destroyed him with comet azur - it drained his health incredibly quickly but I don't know what their stats were. And as this was on Twitter, and the poster was a woman, cue tonnes of replies telling her to stop using easy mode /eye roll/. |
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Post by neems on Jun 19, 2024 8:00:57 GMT
I imagine it still depends on your level and build, your mimic is ultimately a copy of yourself after all.
I'm sure one of the friendly neighbourhood forumites could give you a hand. I think if you have the group password you can summon anybody (I'm about level 230 I think, ng+4?).
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Post by mothercruncher on Jun 19, 2024 8:10:45 GMT
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jun 19, 2024 8:14:21 GMT
Dark Souls - 89
Dark Souls 2 - 91
Vindicated at last! Mwahahahahaha!!
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 19, 2024 8:26:11 GMT
If you have a +10 mimic you can sit back and watch. He is nails without a mimic but if your mimic is good you can just focus on occasionally getting aggro and then dodging a bit until your mimic does its thing. Re the physick I didn’t have it and my mimic killed it first try whilst I was holding my phone with my shoulder to my ear on a call. Just be ready to heal when he does the move around half health. How does this work then because my mimic +10 lasts about 30-40 seconds. There is absolutely no way it can kill mohg on its own- I tried it multiple times. Am I doing something wrong? I guess it’s to do with what you are rocking as it’s a copy of you. At the time I had +10 rivers of blood and the katana +25. Then the item that boosts all your stats but increases damage taken. Not sure about armour but I’m assuming the best stuff I had. He just tanked mohg. He also seems to be able to take about 20x the damage I can. Mojo one hit would nearly kill me but my mimic just tanked. My son also killed him straight away using a +10 mimic and he is about 35 lvls lower than me. Surprisingly the boss isn’t strong against bleed, those bleeds trigger pretty quickly. |
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 19, 2024 8:27:31 GMT
Bloodborne 92 is some bs. That should be 100 and sekiro should be like 95. These reviewers need to get good! Ha
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 8:30:24 GMT
Maybe it's my level then (115) as I've got a mimic +10 and rivers of blood +10.
Tbf, I haven't played for literally months and I was flailing around a lot. I'll have a read up today about the boss and see if I'm doing something I shouldn't etc.
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Post by neems on Jun 19, 2024 8:42:07 GMT
Dark Souls - 89 Dark Souls 2 - 91 Vindicated at last! Mwahahahahaha!! Ban please! |
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Post by wunty on Jun 19, 2024 8:47:43 GMT
Dark Souls - 89 Dark Souls 2 - 91 Vindicated at last! Mwahahahahaha!!  |
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 19, 2024 9:04:34 GMT
Trying to avoid spoilers while enjoying the pre-release excitement and hype is tough. quadfather Do you have the crystal tear that negates the healing/blood-loss attack at the end of his first phase? That's much more important than his shackle IMO. Ah, probably not. Where's that then? You need to defeat Bloody Finger Eleonora, who invades you at the Second Church of Marika in Altus. She should appear even if you haven't been following Yura's questline. Technically you don't need the tear either as you can heal through NIHILx3 with the right timing (and enough HP to survive it), but with it you both avoid wasting the flasks and are able to offset his recovery by beating him up as he's using it, so it helps a lot |
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Post by Zyrr on Jun 19, 2024 9:07:07 GMT
Just as an aside: it's worth getting at least one of the Omen shackles (either Morgott's or Mohg's) just to use inside Leyndell Catacombs to trivialise the difficult bit in there. You have to use the shackle in a certain spot.
On Mohg: if you don't have the Purifying Crystal Tear you'll need to keep healing through the phase transition (when he chants "Nihil!") as opposed to being able to continue attacking him. This translates into him regaining roughly 1/3 HP Vs doing enough damage to burn his healed HP back down to what it was before phase 2.
It helps for sure, but it's not the end of the world if you don't have it.
Talisman wise, the Stalwart Horn Charm is useful for slowing blood loss build up, but be aware that the bloodflame patches on the floor also do fire damage, so the Flamedrake Talisman can also help. During phase 2 you'll be stepping in bloodflame constantly just trying to avoid getting hit, so anything you can do to reduce that damage is useful!
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Post by Danno on Jun 19, 2024 9:19:15 GMT
quadfather I'm installed and terminally online, so give me a holler if you want a hand (no promises of success)
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Post by wunty on Jun 19, 2024 9:31:55 GMT
Ooooo let's all co-op Mohg with quaddy and anyone else who hasn't killed him yet for the lols.
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Post by wunty on Jun 19, 2024 9:32:18 GMT
(although I'm a massive liability and still don't know how I get through these games)
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:39:40 GMT
Ah, probably not. Where's that then? You need to defeat Bloody Finger Eleonora, who invades you at the Second Church of Marika in Altus. She should appear even if you haven't been following Yura's questline. Technically you don't need the tear either as you can heal through NIHILx3 with the right timing (and enough HP to survive it), but with it you both avoid wasting the flasks and are able to offset his recovery by beating him up as he's using it, so it helps a lot Nice one. I've definitely beaten her as I've done all of varres stuff and I recall the name so I've probably got it already. I'll check, cheers |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:41:17 GMT
Just as an aside: it's worth getting at least one of the Omen shackles (either Morgott's or Mohg's) just to use inside Leyndell Catacombs to trivialise the difficult bit in there. You have to use the shackle in a certain spot. On Mohg: if you don't have the Purifying Crystal Tear you'll need to keep healing through the phase transition (when he chants "Nihil!") as opposed to being able to continue attacking him. This translates into him regaining roughly 1/3 HP Vs doing enough damage to burn his healed HP back down to what it was before phase 2. It helps for sure, but it's not the end of the world if you don't have it. Talisman wise, the Stalwart Horn Charm is useful for slowing blood loss build up, but be aware that the bloodflame patches on the floor also do fire damage, so the Flamedrake Talisman can also help. During phase 2 you'll be stepping in bloodflame constantly just trying to avoid getting hit, so anything you can do to reduce that damage is useful! Christ. OK, cheers for that. I think I should probably just start killing rabbits or something to get used to it again, as opposed to 6 months off, fire it up, warp to mohg and give it a go.. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:42:06 GMT
quadfather I'm installed and terminally online, so give me a holler if you want a hand (no promises of success) Cheers boss. I've not renewed my ps+ for ages. I suppose I'll have to get it again. Need to find a cheap one for a year |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:42:27 GMT
Ooooo let's all co-op Mohg with quaddy and anyone else who hasn't killed him yet for the lols. I'm up for that! |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:43:11 GMT
(although I'm a massive liability and still don't know how I get through these games) I had trouble working out how to dual wield last night mate, so I don't think you need to worry |
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Post by Bongo Heracles on Jun 19, 2024 9:43:19 GMT
Just as an aside: it's worth getting at least one of the Omen shackles (either Morgott's or Mohg's) just to use inside Leyndell Catacombs to trivialise the difficult bit in there. You have to use the shackle in a certain spot. On Mohg: if you don't have the Purifying Crystal Tear you'll need to keep healing through the phase transition (when he chants "Nihil!") as opposed to being able to continue attacking him. This translates into him regaining roughly 1/3 HP Vs doing enough damage to burn his healed HP back down to what it was before phase 2. It helps for sure, but it's not the end of the world if you don't have it. Talisman wise, the Stalwart Horn Charm is useful for slowing blood loss build up, but be aware that the bloodflame patches on the floor also do fire damage, so the Flamedrake Talisman can also help. During phase 2 you'll be stepping in bloodflame constantly just trying to avoid getting hit, so anything you can do to reduce that damage is useful! This has just reminded me that my char might be level 150 but after two years by skills are probably back down to getting one shotted by the tree sentinel because I have no idea what you're talking about but I must have done it at some point. I'm going to get absolutely battered. Not least because the last thing I did was respect into an unfamiliar build just to beat the Elden Beast. |
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:57:05 GMT
I'm definitely super rusty. Took me about 5 minutes going through all my weapons to see what the fuck I had
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 9:57:53 GMT
I've also equipped an upgraded shield and stopped two handing while I get up to speed again
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Post by neems on Jun 19, 2024 9:58:20 GMT
I'm going to respec into one of the new weapon classes anyway (hopefully the kung fu master gels with me) so the fact that I no longer have any idea what I'm doing won't matter so much.
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Post by quadfather on Jun 19, 2024 10:01:19 GMT
I am pleased though that I'm over level 100 at least. It's a start though I don't know what build i really am tbh!
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 19, 2024 10:03:53 GMT
I'm going to respec into one of the new weapon classes anyway (hopefully the kung fu master gels with me) so the fact that I no longer have any idea what I'm doing won't matter so much. Definitely trying the martial arts build. |
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Post by wunty on Jun 19, 2024 10:06:23 GMT
Apparently I've got over 250 hours in ER. Yet could I remember how to dismount the stupid pony? Could I fuck.
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