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Post by Vandelay on Jun 18, 2024 14:53:23 GMT
I very, very much skimmed the EG review and it seemed reasonable, as they did make the DLC sound more guided than the base game. Looked at the RPS review more closely than the EG one and suspect that I will be more in line with the reviewer there who appreciated the more focused direction. I liked Elden Ring, a lot, but I definitely prefer the tighter level design of the older From games, so hearing this is a little more knotty has me really intrigued.
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Post by ned on Jun 18, 2024 14:57:57 GMT
I actually think the mark downs from EG are boons for me in some ways.
Looking forward it, but i'm bloody away this weekend now aren't I.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 18, 2024 14:59:01 GMT
Reading that review and it's complaints about signposting feels like From Soft's direct response to people complaining about the beginning of ER and the lack of signposting for the tutorial. I mean I dunno what to say here, damned if you do right?
Also most of not all of their DLC is difficult. Am I wrong here?
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Post by ned on Jun 18, 2024 15:02:28 GMT
It's the only ER DLC they are doing, bosses are going to be very hard. That's a given, surely.
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Post by JuniorFE on Jun 18, 2024 15:03:05 GMT
Reading that review and it's complaints about signposting feels like From Soft's direct response to people complaining about the beginning of ER and the lack of signposting for the tutorial. I mean I dunno what to say here, damned if you do right? Also most of not all of their DLC is difficult. Am I wrong here? Artorias, Manus, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne, Friede, Gael, Lady Maria, Orphan of Kos... No you've just about got it right I think
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 18, 2024 15:08:56 GMT
It's the only ER DLC they are doing, bosses are going to be very hard. That's a given, surely. This is what I've always thought. It's strange to for this to be brought up but I get the feeling that this is a game that has been the most palatable From Soft game for a lot of people and most likely the most approachable and some people may recoil at the increased difficulty. But at the same time to access the DLC you have to have done a lot of the base game to access it so it shouldn't be too much of a surprise about the difficulty.
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Post by harrypalmer on Jun 18, 2024 15:12:19 GMT
40 hrs for DLC is bloody nuts. But then I guess so is the price tag. Cannot wait.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jun 18, 2024 15:13:23 GMT
To be fair I've read the EG review and it's a well-explained perspective, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. Always good to have some different opinions - it's bizarre that games can be loved across the board by hundreds of critics in the same way film and music never are.
She was on the money with Alan Wake 2, too.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 18, 2024 15:14:44 GMT
Wasn't sure about the 5 stars for Goodbye Volcano High tbh. I really didn't get that essential experience from playing that game.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jun 18, 2024 15:15:45 GMT
Reading that review and it's complaints about signposting feels like From Soft's direct response to people complaining about the beginning of ER and the lack of signposting for the tutorial. I mean I dunno what to say here, damned if you do right? Also most of not all of their DLC is difficult. Am I wrong here? You are right. Honestly - for all we talk about Soulsbornes being hard, and they often are - only the DLCs make me want to smash my controller.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 18, 2024 15:17:07 GMT
To be fair I've read the EG review and it's a well-explained perspective, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. Always good to have some different opinions - it's bizarre that games can be loved across the board by hundreds of critics in the same way film and music never are. She was on the money with Alan Wake 2, too. Part of my feeling is that many a film critic believes they could do a better job and while snobbery is found in all critics I've seen it less in the games industry, it feels way more supportive as a whole.
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Post by rhaegyr on Jun 18, 2024 15:27:39 GMT
Think there's some truth to that. There's also the weird symbotic relationship that games journalists have with publishers that isn't as prevalent in film/music criticism.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 18, 2024 15:28:23 GMT
Think there's some truth to that. There's also the weird symbotic relationship that games journalists have with publishers that isn't as prevalent in film/music criticism. Hmm, yeah that stopped with the whole Harry Knowles saga.
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Post by wunty on Jun 18, 2024 15:33:43 GMT
The wife just reminded me she’s away staying at her sisters all weekend from Friday morning.
“Will you two be okay while I’m gone?” Me and the boy exchange glances “Yeah… think we’ll be fine”
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Post by rhaegyr on Jun 18, 2024 15:40:09 GMT
My other half is on holiday next week from Wednesday until Saturday.
I was going to (finally) start Pikmin 4 and hold off on this. Not so sure now...
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Post by richardiox on Jun 18, 2024 16:31:54 GMT
There's a cool retro podcast/videocast I watch called Old School Wrestling review. They also do occasional (but great) videogame deep dives. Last week they uploaded an awesome 3hr Elden Ring retrospective that I finished watching last night and would highly recommend. Three Irish guys hosting and they're pretty funny - plus the video is very well produced. youtu.be/PjvH_6pWeq8?si=w3V9lvTTPw9EjjXT
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Post by neems on Jun 18, 2024 16:48:30 GMT
I'm a bit worried, heard a rumour that people with plus game characters are getting smashed hard.
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Post by Frog on Jun 18, 2024 17:04:31 GMT
Sounds like a good reason to start from level one again 😂
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Post by quadfather on Jun 18, 2024 17:20:40 GMT
Hmm, all this talk about dlc being harder - I'll be shit at it then. I struggle with base game souls. But I'm still intrigued, if not just for the extra items, weapons and areas to explore.
I must check my level
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Post by jeepers on Jun 18, 2024 17:51:33 GMT
Has anyone confirmed that stuff (weapons, items, spells) you find in the dlc are available in the base game?
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 18, 2024 17:52:11 GMT
I heard rumours that there are cliffs, cliffs that you can fall to your doom!
But yeah all from software dlc is nails.
Pc gamer gave it 95/100 saying once again they show the industry how to do dlc.
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Post by Jambowayoh on Jun 18, 2024 19:24:51 GMT
I'm a bit worried, heard a rumour that people with plus game characters are getting smashed hard. I'm pretty sure that the Devs even said your level wouldn't really be taken into account as it's a separate area. Essentially it's a level playing field for everyone.
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Post by wunty on Jun 18, 2024 19:34:16 GMT
I think the theory is that at the recommended level, each level gain is so slight anyway that it would never make enough difference. Therefore there’s a way to increase damage of you and your ashes separately in the DLC area so you can feel the types of gains normally reserved for early game levelling and weapon upgrading.
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 18, 2024 22:45:25 GMT
This is the recommended way to fight Mohg and Radahn before the DLC
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Post by quadfather on Jun 18, 2024 23:51:15 GMT
Turns out I'm level 115. It's taken me half an hour to get used to it and lots of deaths etc. Anyway, I can get mohg to about 50% if I'm lucky and then everything goes pear shaped.
So i followed a guide to get mohgs shackle. Yeah, that didn't end well - subterranean shunning grounds appears to be full of complete bastards. And I lost my way.
Still, have to say, whilst I got my arse handed to me plenty of times, it was actually a good laugh as I haven't played for months and months.
Where is his fucking shackle though, anyone know?
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Post by Nanocrystal on Jun 19, 2024 1:06:31 GMT
Trying to avoid spoilers while enjoying the pre-release excitement and hype is tough. quadfather Do you have the crystal tear that negates the healing/blood-loss attack at the end of his first phase? That's much more important than his shackle IMO.
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Post by FlexibleFeline on Jun 19, 2024 4:49:17 GMT
Turns out I'm level 115. It's taken me half an hour to get used to it and lots of deaths etc. Anyway, I can get mohg to about 50% if I'm lucky and then everything goes pear shaped. So i followed a guide to get mohgs shackle. Yeah, that didn't end well - subterranean shunning grounds appears to be full of complete bastards. And I lost my way. Still, have to say, whilst I got my arse handed to me plenty of times, it was actually a good laugh as I haven't played for months and months. Where is his fucking shackle though, anyone know? Not that far into the shunning grounds, there's a big room with pipes you can run along, high above the floor...and loads of those annoying gargoyles so be careful. Down on the floor there are two (or three?) giant lobsters / crayfish and it's around there somewhere (I think there may be a few items down there, can't remember). It's somewhere near an entrance to a catacombs so that's worth making a beeline for as there's a safe site of lost grace just there before you enter the catacombs, which gives you a good position to suicide run and hoover up all the items on the floor behind you. Unless you have a good way of taking on the lobsters in which case do that. As Nanocrystal says, the shackle is of fairly limited use against Mohg, but no harm in finding it.
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Post by RadicalRex on Jun 19, 2024 5:29:52 GMT
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Post by Vandelay on Jun 19, 2024 7:16:29 GMT
Finally reached Mohg (the real one). Well, his area at least, still need to get to the actual boss arena. Gives me a couple of evenings to repeatedly get torn apart by him.
How essential is the physick considered for this fight? I don't have it and not sure if I'm going to be able to do that quest line now. To be honest, I've somehow managed to miss pretty much all the NPC quests in this play through.
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Post by peacemaker on Jun 19, 2024 7:39:21 GMT
Finally reached Mohg (the real one). Well, his area at least, still need to get to the actual boss arena. Gives me a couple of evenings to repeatedly get torn apart by him. How essential is the physick considered for this fight? I don't have it and not sure if I'm going to be able to do that quest line now. To be honest, I've somehow managed to miss pretty much all the NPC quests in this play through. If you have a +10 mimic you can sit back and watch. He is nails without a mimic but if your mimic is good you can just focus on occasionally getting aggro and then dodging a bit until your mimic does its thing. Re the physick I didn’t have it and my mimic killed it first try whilst I was holding my phone with my shoulder to my ear on a call. Just be ready to heal when he does the move around half health.
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