Redfall by Arkane Studios

It's definitely the standard sad pile on for clicks. As I said it's not great but loads of fun with friends. I finally got to some hard bits as well which helped.

For starters he says it's unplayable on controller. Which again is bs. It's actually really good on controller and easy to hit your targets whilst jumping, sliding etc. He basically moans there isn't auto aim like destiny. It's not needed as it's easy to hit everything, just adjust your settings to how you like it. To say in a review it's shit/unplayable because he couldn't hit anything as it didn't have aim lock like destiny is just bollocks.

The controller defaults that shipped on XBox were literally unplayable for me - I was ready to just bin it off before I spotted a post on here with suggested settings.

So it's not necessarily bollocks.  You seem to be happy to go in and tweak settings to go from "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!?" to "oh, OK, I can play now" but given Arkane's history I just presumed they'd fucked up the acceleration curve again.

It's stupid. It's lazy. They *should* get shit for that.

I have no hat in the ring, I love Arkane but don’t have an XBox. But everything I’ve seen points to it being fundamentally broken. I’m sure it’s playable, but if it’s even half as bad as skillup and ACG are saying then it’s shite. The fact that’s it’s pretty much the first AAA XBox exclusive makes it even more shocking/funny.

Have you played it?
Or are you just salivating at the negative Microsoft news?

See point 3. Why would I bother installing it when there are so many other games to play? It looks awful, and I don’t need to try to find the fun in it when I’ve got Jedi going on, Zelda next week, a huge backlog and more stuff on the horizon.

You can paint it as “anti-MS” if you want but it’s getting almost unanimously trounced everywhere, other than bichii above obviously. This should never have been released in this state. I guess you disagree?

I started playing it in the hope the story would balance out the shittyness cuz, y’know, arkane but, yes, as that video points out, the story, plot and dialogue are worthless.

Not being able to listen to a voice log on the move is a proper pet hate.

I don't see it as a pile on, I see it as profound disappointment at what a critically renowned studio has made after such a long time.

There are clear issues with the game, yes upon bootup the controls were fucked anyone who says otherwise is lying because they objectively were. The AI is broken. It's clearly a multiplayer game in design that has been butchered to make it work as a single player game because the abilities of each player are done in such a way to promote teamwork in very specific situations that don't work in single player. What story there is done in a very piecemeal way that isn't satisfying. It looks last gen as fuck, I actually believe it was a last gen in development and when MS took over they needed content for the next gen and chose this game as well making them remove all online shooter elements so we're left this shell. I mean why does it have an option for multiplayer lobby but no matchmaking or drop in, drop out co-op or shared campaign progress?

While I agree with Frog that Arkane is not the jewel in the crown for Bethesda buyout, you have Arkane, arguably one of the great developers existing right now and they're handing in this kind of shit. It deserves to get the reception especially as it's classed as a AAA first party game for a publisher that has released fuck all games under its own label.

Arkane may not be big sellers, but they are critical darlings that make games with immersive sim gameplay you don't find in many other places and fantastic level design. Doesn't sound like this has any of that and seemingly isn't replaced with much else.

Makes me wonder if this game went through some late changes after seeing the reaction to games like Gotham Knights and Avengers, with a clear message from the audience that they didn't want any more games as service looter shooters.

Maybe we will at least get a good NoClip documentary out of it to find out what went wrong.

Just seen the SkillUp video, he lays it on thick but I don't see any lies.

Hah, just watched it as well and was about to say the same thing. Every one of his complaints was supported by footage he took from his gameplay. It's as he experienced. 

It looks genuinely fucking awful. 

Down the line I was thinking of grabbing a cheap S for decent exclusives, like I did with the One last gen but eh...well...it doesn't look like there are going to be any good exclusives. Maybe I won't grab one. 

Arkane as well. I've loved the fuck out of every one of their games. Genuinely gutted. 

I think I've had it with the whole open world looter shooter shit anyway, which doesn't help. It sounds like he has as well.

If there's something my current playthrough of TLOU has told me, it's that you can't beat a finely crafted linear single player experience imo.

I definitely think that’s the problem. The fad is already over so they just plopped it out

This also shows the quality of the AI more in depth than the skillup vid

youtu.be/2yF7tjWkNFo

I think our own definitions of AAA probably differ somewhat. Read Dead Redemption 2, Spider-Man, Halo Infinite, stuff like that I'd call AAA. I'd put Arkane's output firmly in the bracket below that personally.