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Post by Cappy on Sept 11, 2021 17:42:16 GMT
I dimly remember Toxic. Marshal Law should have been in 2000AD, all the best stories and characters of that period got filtered off into spin-off publications leaving 2000AD with lesser strips.
I wonder if Diceman is available digitally, it should be. They really pushed the boat out so the artwork was great. If not, somebody needs to step up to find and disassemble their issues so they can be flat-scanned and preserved for posterity. This was good stuff, the Slaine story coincided with the period when the series had it's best art. The Nemesis and Dredd stories also had great art, the Ronald Reagan strip was a good laugh too.
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Post by simple on Sept 11, 2021 17:47:39 GMT
Its a shame that the earlier Tank Girl collections are falling out of circulation these days. They must be due a full reprint again soon.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 11, 2021 17:49:07 GMT
Slaine was Simon Bisley wasn't it?
Definitely fitted well.
He did the cover for some Scottish thrash metal band too. I bought the lp due to it.
Sadly, the music wasn't quite as good as the art on the cover!
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Post by Vortex on Sept 11, 2021 17:50:34 GMT
Having checked, i see he's done quite a few album covers.
Drunken State- Kilt by death was the one i got. 😀
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Sept 11, 2021 17:53:45 GMT
It's a real shame Rebellion aren't better game developers as there are some incredible games that could be made with 2000AD's IP. A GTA style game set in Mega City One, just imagine I always thought something like X-com Apocalypse could make an interesting Mega City 1 game. As for the Treasury stuff I have bought a lot more of those as I was a regular Eagle reader through the 80's. Started off with a few Hibernia collections before Rebellion got the rights. 'Acquired' earlier issues and find the photo stories have more charm than I expected (in a cheesy FMV game of the 90s sort of way). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 19:05:21 GMT
Talking of Deadline I recently found a box of back issues I'd forgotten about, revisiting it is certainly interesting but Tank Girl is about the only thing it had going for it. It was in that awkward space between 2000AD and some sort of pop culture magazine. Let's go even more obscure, does anybody remember Diceman? Fleetway's attempt to get in on the popularity of Fighting Fantasy and role playing games. It used a lot of 2000AD properties like Judge Dredd, Slaine and Nemesis and due to the format it's probably never been reprinted. I think it got up to five issues before folding, I have them somewhere. From early Deadline, Johnny Nemo and Wired World I certainly enjoyed. Nemo was great on occasion. I can see stuff like Hugo Tate might seem a bit navel-gazy these days. One that I was sad to see fail was Revolver. I got all 6 issues and the Halloween Special, and that was it. A beautiful Jimi Hendrix biopic, and a really, really great Dan Dare reboot were the highlights. Just too many on the market at the time I think. |
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Post by Vortex on Sept 11, 2021 19:26:28 GMT
I liked deadline, most of the band interviews were ok too. I quite liked the the lower brow 'the face' magazine thing with added comic
shit.
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Post by trafford on Sept 11, 2021 20:23:00 GMT
I recently read the Meltdown Man reprint.
Fantastic, 50 episode epic of peak Belardineli madness.
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Post by suicida on Sept 16, 2021 8:38:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 8:46:52 GMT
I'm going to look out for that, nice one thanks :thumbsup
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Post by simple on Sept 16, 2021 9:52:27 GMT
Dredd is live in COD Warzone now.
Its not my sort of game at all but I did consider it just for him the other day.
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Post by Techno Hippy on Sept 16, 2021 10:16:28 GMT
I've not read the magazine in decades, but I am slowly building up a collection of my favourite characters from back in the day. I've almost finished the complete Nemesis the Warlock collection, and onto Slaine next.
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Post by suicida on Sept 16, 2021 10:29:04 GMT
Love Nemesis, it's one of the greatest series' ever to grace the prog. I was lucky enough to snag both of the LE hardbacks last year before they sold out. They are things of beauty
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Post by One_Vurfed_Gwrx on Sept 16, 2021 11:45:04 GMT
Love Nemesis, it's one of the greatest series' ever to grace the prog. I was lucky enough to snag both of the LE hardbacks last year before they sold out. They are things of beauty I think it is the original Titan (?) 4 volume run of Nemesis I have. I have considered trying to get the associated ABC Warriors stuff but it is spread about a lot more crazily and not all in print last I checked so I have skipped those so far |
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Post by starchildhypocrethes on Sept 16, 2021 12:36:55 GMT
I absolutely loved 2000AD back in the day and this thread actually inspired me to sign up for a months subscription the other day.
Quite intrigued to see what it's like these days. My first comic subscription in about 25 odd years. I'm young again!
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Post by trafford on Sept 16, 2021 21:02:40 GMT
Yeah I'm going to give Prog 2250 a go. Thanks for the heads up. It's been over 35 years!?!
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Post by Zuluhero on Sept 16, 2021 21:15:39 GMT
I'll grab it, and see if it can rekindle some old nostalgia. It'll be good to read stories from the beginning again.
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Post by suicida on Sept 18, 2021 10:37:48 GMT
Well my sub copy of prog 2250 just turned up, had a quick flick through and some gorgeous artwork within. Looking forward to selling down and having a read later this afternoon.
Lee Carter who drew the Anderson story this week used to work for Bizarre Creations of Project Gotham Racing fame, before switching to comics.
One of my fav current artists, Jake Lynch, is on Dredd this week, proper old school Dredd artist and I like his stuff a lot.
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Post by Cappy on Sept 18, 2021 11:02:07 GMT
Since I missed about a thousand progs, how did they address Dredd already being quite elderly? As far as I recall one year for us is also one year for Dredd, by the 'Deadman' period I think he was already in his 60s. I recall stories did address Dredd perhaps losing his edge.
One thing I really found interesting about Metal Gear Solid 4 that never really got fully explored in the game is that Snake's own body was failing him and was the enemy with him every step of the way, sadly the game never really delivered on this. I've recently been playing Hero Must Die Again Again, dubbed the anti-RPG. You are on borrowed time and slowly dying over five days, instead of getting stronger you get progressively weaker. The frustration of trying to take out a boss who runs away to exploit the fact you'll be too weakened when you catch up to them again. The absolute rage, when the smug bastard I'd had on the ropes previously made me their John Romero.
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Post by suicida on Sept 18, 2021 11:52:36 GMT
They've mostly been kicking that can down the road, every so often they'll do a story where Dredd gets a handwavium "rejuve" treatment or whatever. It's already well established in the world that people live a lot longer, 150+ years or so, and they have cybernetics (Dredd has had bionic eyes since City of the Damned in the 80s) but my guess is they're waiting for John Wagner to finally retire and he'll write the big send off.
It was really sad when Carlos Ezquerra died a few years ago, as the original creative team doing the final Dredd story 40+ years after the first would've been epic
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Post by simple on Sept 18, 2021 17:50:10 GMT
Transfer his mind into a new Fargo clone with some Anderson/Death psi-fuckery maybe?
Its inelegant but they’re the ones who established the real time ageing and other rules of the universe.
Or do a Strontium Dog and have an ending but keep the strip going writing “untold stories” from his past?
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Post by suicida on Sept 18, 2021 18:08:15 GMT
I genuinely think they'll let Wagner kill him off, but continue with stories set in Mega City One. There's already another Fargo clone judge (called Rico, heh) that they could focus on. I think it would work, and it will certainly be big news if it happens.
Prog 2250 is excellent BTW, there's a really good Future Shock written and drawn by Chris Weston that I genuinely LOL'ed at the ending, but all 7 strips were good I thought. Worth picking up.
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Post by simple on Sept 18, 2021 18:59:12 GMT
The guy’s been in 2249 progs, could they afford to lose him?
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Post by awimbawe on Sept 18, 2021 19:22:20 GMT
This thread has been nostalgia overload. Apart from the obvious favourite of Judge Dredd, I think the next favourite long running story had to be Ace Trucking Co. I've always loved that slant they took on the space trucker lingo. There was a little dictionary printed along with each prog but you could get what they were saying.
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Post by Vortex on Sept 18, 2021 19:31:13 GMT
I would still like a scarf like ace! 😀
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Post by awimbawe on Sept 18, 2021 20:03:00 GMT
Forgot all about his scarf but yes, me too !
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Post by simple on Sept 18, 2021 22:24:39 GMT
Because I came to it as a teen in the late 90s it was stuff like Sinister Dexter, Nikolai Dante, Durham Red, Slaine and Mazeworld that stood out to me at the time.
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Post by MysteryLamb on Sept 18, 2021 22:54:34 GMT
I was a subscriber for about 18 years. Lapsed for about the last 5 as I couldn't justify the cost anymore. A jumping back on edition really interests me but there is simply nowhere near me I could get a copy.
Bummer.
Currently between homes (long story I should put in the buying a house thread perhaps). Might subscribe again once I'm finally sorted; I do have an emotional connection to it. When I was around 15 I would get really buzzed catching the bus into town every Saturday, picking up my weekly prog, so excited on the ride home. It was just something that was great and for me only. Something no one else understood the majesty of. The skill of the artists and the excitement of the mad as fuck stories.
It got me into painting. I had a brief period where I wasn't bum broke and started buying original pages of artwork and even a few covers. Thankfully I have them still (although in storage atm - might post some pics, again once I'm moved). Kevin Walker and Colin MacNeil were my favourites.
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Post by suicida on Sept 18, 2021 23:15:21 GMT
Oh wow, I'd love to see what original pages you have. I only have one myself, an absolutely amazing Leigh Gallagher page from Defoe:  Really should get that framed and on the wall. Colin MacNeil does all the John Wagner Dredd's these days, he's still got it. |
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Post by Zuluhero on Sept 19, 2021 12:00:47 GMT
You should, it's amazing!
On the prog 2250 front I was quite disappointed when I popped in Smiths and they didn't have it, only to reread this thread and realise it's out on the 22nd.
I didn't realise that subscribers get them so far in advance.
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