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Post by Derblington on Jan 10, 2022 10:17:59 GMT
I very much doubt you actually are, unless you're eating spoonful's of granulated sugar to get your fix. It's habit, not addiction. It's the wonderful mix of carbs and fat that make things sweet and super delicious that you're after. Eating fruit doesn't give you the same satisfaction because it's missing the fat component, and no-one's getting super obese eating strawberries.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 10, 2022 10:19:30 GMT
I very much doubt you actually are, unless you're eating spoonful's of granulated sugar to get your fix. It's habit, not addiction. It's the wonderful mix of carbs and fat that make things sweet and super delicious, sweet and tasty that you're after. Eating fruit doesn't give you the same satisfaction because it's missing the fat component, and no-one's getting super obese eating strawberries. I get cravings for chocolate/cakes, whatever that is classified as. Habit I need to break but as I said, far trickier for me than booze or bread or whatever...
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 10, 2022 10:23:37 GMT
Sugar is incredibly addictive, wanting it will be a combination of the addiction and habit. Gradually decrease and you’ll find your cravings drop off quite quickly.
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Post by Derblington on Jan 10, 2022 10:27:05 GMT
It's you wanting more tasty food because it's tasty
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 10, 2022 10:27:16 GMT
Sugar is incredibly addictive, wanting it will be a combination of the addiction and habit. Gradually decrease and you’ll find your cravings drop off quite quickly. Yep, for now trying to restrict it mostly to weekends then hopefully go without and have it as just an occasional treat. I should leave Switzerland to get away from all the fcking chocolate!
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Post by mrpon on Jan 10, 2022 10:29:08 GMT
Still got a box of treats left over from Xmas, as I'm sure most people have. Should be gone by Feb!
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Post by Dougs on Jan 10, 2022 10:29:10 GMT
I think I'd struggle to give up bread more than anything. I find it really hard to find an alternative lunch. Not a fan of soup, and salads are fine in the summer but very unattractive in the winter. Mostly limit it to 2 slices or a wrap on weekdays, with toast as breakfast on weekends instead of cereal.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 10, 2022 10:33:51 GMT
I think I'd struggle to give up bread more than anything. I find it really hard to find an alternative lunch. Not a fan of soup, and salads are fine in the summer but very unattractive in the winter. Mostly limit it to 2 slices or a wrap on weekdays, with toast as breakfast on weekends instead of cereal. I think a lot of people are like you, was surprisingly easy for me to cut down to almost zero, for wee sandwich type snack I use the Wasa crackerbread thingies and rarely have toast for breakfast anyway. Rice would be a real struggle if I were to try and give that carb up.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 10, 2022 10:36:34 GMT
I have started to cut down bagels to just half, so that's something I guess!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 10:51:24 GMT
Back to the gym at lunch. First time in probably 12 months. Need to take it easy with the free weights so I can function for the remainder of the week lol.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 10, 2022 10:55:27 GMT
I think I'd struggle to give up bread more than anything. I find it really hard to find an alternative lunch. Not a fan of soup, and salads are fine in the summer but very unattractive in the winter. Mostly limit it to 2 slices or a wrap on weekdays, with toast as breakfast on weekends instead of cereal. I can easily eat a whole loaf of good crusty white bread in a day. The only thing that stops me is I’d have to make it as Ocado is shit for fresh bread and there’s nowhere good to get it where I live.
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Post by Dougs on Jan 10, 2022 10:57:23 GMT
Yeah, I'd be in trouble if I lived near a good baker's!
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Post by Triarii on Jan 10, 2022 10:57:40 GMT
DerblingtonThis is probably too vague but what would you recommend for getting a bit leaner? I lift 2-3 times a week, row twice a week and I'm eating around maintenance but according to my heart rate monitor almost all of the calories burned are "fit" rather than "fat".
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Post by Derblington on Jan 10, 2022 11:01:14 GMT
Drop 2-500 calories a day. If you're eating at maintenance then you won't lose weight, you need to get into a deficit.
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 10, 2022 11:12:20 GMT
Drop 2-500 calories a day. If you're eating at maintenance then you won't lose weight, you need to get into a deficit. I don't think 2 calories less will make a big difference. Here all week...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2022 11:14:49 GMT
Drop 2-500 calories a day. If you're eating at maintenance then you won't lose weight, you need to get into a deficit. I don't think 2 calories less will make a big difference. Here all week... maybe the hyphen was a typo and he meant 2500 a day!!!
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Post by スコットランド on Jan 10, 2022 11:16:59 GMT
I don't think 2 calories less will make a big difference. Here all week... maybe the hyphen was a typo and he meant 2500 a day!!! Fucking hell, hardcore in Sweden....
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Post by Triarii on Jan 10, 2022 11:18:23 GMT
Drop 2-500 calories a day. If you're eating at maintenance then you won't lose weight, you need to get into a deficit. OK, I used this TDEE calculator and my maintenance is 2273kcal (at sedentary activity level). So aim for 2000kcal a day but eating a bit more on the days I exercise?
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Post by Derblington on Jan 10, 2022 11:25:43 GMT
You're not sedentary. tdeecalculator.net/ - fill the details and select moderate exercise. Drop 200 cals from that and see what happens. Bear in mind that maintenance is a range not a specific number, so you may not lose initially. If the scales aren't moving after 2 weeks, drop another 150-200 cals. Repeat until you start to drop. Repeat once you plateau to keep losing until desired weight. Once there, go back to the calculator and fill it in again to get your new maintenance. ed: I didn't click through to the calculator you linked but it's the same one ed2: you can eat more on specific days and less on others if you want, or equal every day. It doesn't matter. Calories at the end of the week will be the same.
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Post by Triarii on Jan 10, 2022 11:56:08 GMT
You're not sedentary. tdeecalculator.net/ - fill the details and select moderate exercise. Drop 200 cals from that and see what happens. Bear in mind that maintenance is a range not a specific number, so you may not lose initially. If the scales aren't moving after 2 weeks, drop another 150-200 cals. Repeat until you start to drop. Repeat once you plateau to keep losing until desired weight. Once there, go back to the calculator and fill it in again to get your new maintenance. ed: I didn't click through to the calculator you linked but it's the same one I'm massively overcomplicating this, aren't I? Here was my thought process: - I'm not sedentary but I figured that the activity levels are estimates and since I use a chest strap that might be a more accurate way to work things out using sedentary as a base. - For days I don't exercise - eat sedentary calories minus 200. - For days that I exercise my chest strap will tell me how many calories I've burned and how much more I can eat. When I lift I burn between 400-750 calories but rowing can burn 1000+ etc so there can be quite a bit of variation. Actually, on average it probably works out about the same either way. I'm a wally. Next question, how do you know you've got enough muscle to make a cut worthwhile?
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Post by Derblington on Jan 10, 2022 12:21:06 GMT
EDIT: just re-read your post. Don't eat back the cals that any trackers have told you you've burned. None of them will be exact and you'll likely eat far too many and undo any work you've put in in training. Just use the exercise to help create a deficit.
Og reply: Re. cals per day: exercise requires fuel, so getting some carbs 60-90 mins before a workout can help with having a good workout, getting a nice pump, felling energised, etc, but having more overall cals on those days isn't important. Recovery also requires fuel. Having high and low cal days is personal preference for the general population. Meal timing becomes more important for high performing athletes. Just do whatever you find easiest to adhere to, it won't make any difference to you other than having to change what you eat each day. If you're lifting to build muscle you should be focusing on higher protein meals throughout the day with adequate fats and plenty of carbs to smash through the workouts and brain function. Once that's covered, the actual macro splits are more about personal preference. You can increase fats a bit and lower carbs if you'd rather (though I don't know why anyone would through choice, carbs are the fucking best).
"how do you know you've got enough muscle to make a cut worthwhile?" Cutting fat is nothing to do with amounts of muscle. Drop fat if you have fat to lose. If you're happy as is, keep focusing on building muscle. Muscle takes time to build, so you want to build for 6 months or more. You could do a min-cut in there to strip a little fluff away but, again, personal pref. If you're relatively lean, keep building.
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Post by Reviewer on Jan 10, 2022 14:11:12 GMT
My only way of losing any weight is to eat nothing/almost nothing for breakfast and lunch. Evening meals are just too nice so always end up 1500 calories or so. Lunch and breakfast are short - cereal or sandwiches or something else that takes minutes to put together.
I went from the age of 12-30 doing that every single day so I’m sure that should work now, just with a little extra occasionally or at weekends.
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Post by Derblington on Jan 10, 2022 14:42:14 GMT
That's why I like tracking calories for weight loss. Whatever you do to lose weight, energy balance dictates you need to be in a calorie deficit. Weighing foods and tracking cals makes that simple, and once you do it for a week it's quick and easy (especially as most of us eat the same meals in rotation, so once you've worked out your most common foods you're away). Then you can apply it to low-fat, low-carb, keto, time-restricted feeding, 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 meals, or whatever other system you prefer to eat in, and you'll never really go wrong because you've done the calculations behind it. There's no guess work. And if you feel more hungry on a specific day you can add more cals there, and remove them from later in the week when it suits. Eating out and the odd bit of chocolate or whatever is easy to balance in without fucking up any progress or feeling like you're "cheating".
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Post by ozthegweat on Jan 10, 2022 18:08:54 GMT
I should leave Switzerland to get away from all the fcking chocolate! Ragusa FTW.
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 11, 2022 2:33:14 GMT
Done a week with low alcohol (just a handful of the 0.5% stuff). Can't say I feel any better for it to be honest, but that's probably mostly because I'm massively stressed with work.
Have adjusted my fasting to 18/6 to see if it helps me feel any better generally. Must say that it's a good amount harder than 16/8 was, but that could be because I'm not properly back in the groove after weeks of insane xmas gluttony / alcoholism.
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Post by jimnastics on Jan 11, 2022 10:43:32 GMT
Fuck it I'm back on keto, it worked the best for me in the past so here we go again. Too scared to even get on the scales having gone through our Xmas photos, I can tell by them (and my belt...) I've put on a shit load over the past few months. Got 2 or 3 weddings coming this year so at least that's some goal to focus on! I've been through the "keto flu" stage already which only really lasted a day and wasn't too bad, pee sticks say I'm in ketosis so that's good. Thinking I may attempt to make those "chaffle" things for lunch.
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Post by smoothpete on Jan 13, 2022 6:45:07 GMT
There’s a dude here in the gym doing forward lunges with a 140kg bar. Absolute unit
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Post by Vortex on Jan 13, 2022 8:25:25 GMT
Teresa?
Or is she ogling his unit?
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Post by smoothpete on Jan 17, 2022 10:21:43 GMT
I swam a mile this morning for the first time in at least 2 years. I was so much slower than I used to be, still got it done though. Previously on a normal day I'd have done it in 32 mins, on a good day I could have done 27 mins. Today was 40 minutes as I was just generally slower and had to stop for a few quick rests. Not bad though, I'm OK with it. I can only improve.
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Post by Psychotext on Jan 17, 2022 11:03:29 GMT
My exercise this weekend consisted of digging / moving multiple tons of rock and gravel.
Too old for this shit. Slept nearly 10 hours last night and still fucking ruined.
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