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Post by Vortex on Oct 18, 2022 12:55:35 GMT
Sounds like that'll be a looong 6 weeks if you're dreaming of pork chops already!
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Post by Vortex on Oct 18, 2022 12:59:03 GMT
Also, I have started taking my lad to the gym on a sunday. That fits in best with his football training and other shit, and, more importantly, gives me two gym stints on my own for 'me' time as well as letting me get out for a run/on the bike a bit on ohter days. He had a couple of wee dumbbells and a chin up bar up in his room for a few years, but has now realised there is a thing called DOMS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 12:59:06 GMT
It was really visceral, like slowly cutting into the meat. I'd just been watching that Jeffrey Dahmer thing on Netflix before bed so I'm either turning into a psychopath or just really hungry. Maybe both.
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Post by Vortex on Oct 18, 2022 13:01:30 GMT
Probably more of the latter just now, maybe more so on the former by about week 5...
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Post by Derblington on Oct 18, 2022 14:19:08 GMT
It's usually only recommended that you do one group (of however many reps and sets) of any single exercise in a day. So if you pick them up and do 3 lots of 10 bicep curls whilst making your morning coffee, you probably shouldn't pick them up and do the same exercise again later on that day. No real reason as far as I am aware why you can't do a different exercise later on, though - for example, if you've done the above in the morning, at lunchtime you could do 3x10 tricep extensions, then at afternoon tea, 3x10 shoulder presses. You may also want to think about having off days the day after if you're exercising that regularly, too. So perhaps do some cardio in the gaps the day after (press up, situps, star jumps etc). Unless you’re actually taking your sets to or near failure, which I’d wager he’s not doing while making tea, you won’t need to worry about training too regularly or doing the same things too often. Similarly, this won’t apply to a bit of casual work. It all stems from a fear of “impacting gains” but even when that does occur you’re talking about small percentages, and if your sleep, nutrition and training isn’t all optimal you’ll be leaving more gains elsewhere anyway. If you’re just doing odds and sods whenever you’re making a tea, do whatever makes you feel good and that you can stick to. Something is better than nothing. If you get overly sore then give it a rest for a day or two, or do a different set of exercises. If you want to take it further then look at simple body weight routines to do regularly and scale up. Google ‘trigger sessions’ for a simple starting point.
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Post by dogbot on Oct 19, 2022 12:22:15 GMT
It's usually only recommended that you do one group (of however many reps and sets) of any single exercise in a day. So if you pick them up and do 3 lots of 10 bicep curls whilst making your morning coffee, you probably shouldn't pick them up and do the same exercise again later on that day. No real reason as far as I am aware why you can't do a different exercise later on, though - for example, if you've done the above in the morning, at lunchtime you could do 3x10 tricep extensions, then at afternoon tea, 3x10 shoulder presses. You may also want to think about having off days the day after if you're exercising that regularly, too. So perhaps do some cardio in the gaps the day after (press up, situps, star jumps etc). Unless you’re actually taking your sets to or near failure, which I’d wager he’s not doing while making tea, you won’t need to worry about training too regularly or doing the same things too often. Similarly, this won’t apply to a bit of casual work. It all stems from a fear of “impacting gains” but even when that does occur you’re talking about small percentages, and if your sleep, nutrition and training isn’t all optimal you’ll be leaving more gains elsewhere anyway. If you’re just doing odds and sods whenever you’re making a tea, do whatever makes you feel good and that you can stick to. Something is better than nothing. If you get overly sore then give it a rest for a day or two, or do a different set of exercises. If you want to take it further then look at simple body weight routines to do regularly and scale up. Google ‘trigger sessions’ for a simple starting point. Very true - I was thinking from the perspective of a more rounded workout, than of the potential for injuring oneself, although that doesn't entirely make a difference to your point really, either.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 6, 2022 17:35:16 GMT
I am an idiot (Yes, I know you all knew that already). I was re-racking some dumbells at the gym, and someone walked by. Thinking it was someone i knew, who I'd seen at the football a few days before, i looked up to chat and nipped the side of my little finger between rack and weight.
It was no-one i knew. Now i have a nice cut on my finger and a well-earned reminder to pay attention when re-racking weights.
What a twat. Never done that in 25-30 years of gym going...
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Post by LegendaryApe on Nov 6, 2022 20:02:51 GMT
It was a woman, wasn't it
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Post by Vortex on Nov 6, 2022 20:09:37 GMT
Ha! A reasonable guess, but no, it was an old(er than me) bloke. 😀
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Post by LegendaryApe on Nov 6, 2022 20:17:27 GMT
Fair enough! I'm surprised I haven't done the same, to be honest.
There are a lot of ways to hurt oneself in the gym, I'm surprised we're all walking around
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Post by freddiemercurystwin on Nov 6, 2022 20:24:24 GMT
I have avoided this problem by never having visited a gym.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 6, 2022 20:35:07 GMT
Just leave your weights scattered around the floor in future
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 7:24:07 GMT
Decided I need to lose the man tits so I broke out the kettlebell last week and have some dumbbells arriving today. I know what I'm doing with the kettlebell but would really welcome any guidance on dumbbell workouts for my arms and shoulders.
As a side note, I've never taken the nutrition side as seriously and I cannot believe how much I am eating at the moment.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 24, 2022 7:41:20 GMT
Best off doing some cardio to shift the titties
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Post by LegendaryApe on Nov 24, 2022 7:49:02 GMT
Agreed, though the kettlebell training will help.
I have recently been able to go the gym regularly due to a job change and am really enjoy it. They have punch bags and I am trying to learn to skip as cardio.
I'm not too fond of the treadmills.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 12:38:20 GMT
Cardio is tricky because my knees are fucked and I can't run more than about a mile without pain. I try and do callisthenics but not sure that's massively helpful.
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Post by Vortex on Nov 24, 2022 12:40:29 GMT
Indoor (&outdoor) cycling, rowing, even an elliptical trainer would let you do cardio with low impact for dodgy knees. Swimming too. There's no excuses accepted in this thread!
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Post by Derblington on Nov 24, 2022 12:54:21 GMT
Just go for a walk. Cardio doesn't need to be difficult.
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Post by elstoof on Nov 24, 2022 13:02:46 GMT
20 minutes of Human Flag should get the heart going
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Post by mrpon on Nov 24, 2022 13:05:02 GMT
A sports bra might help during the first couple of months.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:32:05 GMT
Indoor (&outdoor) cycling, rowing, even an elliptical trainer would let you do cardio with low impact for dodgy knees. Swimming too. There's no excuses accepted in this thread! What sort of thing can / should I do at home that's good cardio but low impact? I'm reluctant to join a gym because I'm hoping to move to the other side of town before too long, and I don't have much room in my flat for more equipment (hence trying to maximise the impact of daily kettlebell and dumbbell workouts). I figure I probably need to be doing some cardio and some strength every day - probably about 20 minutes of each - and getting my nutrition and sleep right to make gains. Basically need to be hench(ish) by the end of March - probably not possible but I reckon I can lower my body fat - I reckon (accordingly to back of a fag packet maths) that I'm at around 18% at the moment. I'd like to get down to 15% at least - while building lean muscle. I know this is essentially a big change to my lifestyle so I've stopped drinking and I'm being extremely careful with what I eat alongside the workouts. I'm actually finding it hard to eat enough at the moment, hence the Huel Black...
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Post by Derblington on Nov 24, 2022 14:36:05 GMT
Kettlebell swings are excellent cardio. It has some effect of strengthening your posterior chain but they won't build muscle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:36:07 GMT
(end of March is the start of Ramadan which means any serious gains are off the table for a month because nutrition and sleep will go out the window!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:36:43 GMT
If you're trying to lose fat don't over do the cardio, it just fucks your resting calorie burn and makes it harder to shift it. Just concentrate on eating less and strength training with some light cardio.
Also just to trigger derps cut bread and refined sugar out completely if you want to do it the easy way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:37:09 GMT
Kettlebell swings are excellent cardio. It has some effect of strengthening your posterior chain but they won't build muscle. Awesome - that's really helpful, thanks man.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:38:01 GMT
If you're trying to lose fat don't over do the cardio, it just fucks your resting calorie burn and makes it harder to shift it. Just concentrate on eating less and strength training with some light cardio. Also just to trigger derps cut bread and refined sugar out completely if you want to do it the easy way. Cheers man. Other than the occasional pizza I don't eat bread, and I really don't have a sweet tooth - so I reckon I'm covered on the easy way! It's crisps that always get me...
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Post by Dougs on Nov 24, 2022 14:39:39 GMT
Also just to trigger derps cut bread and refined sugar out completely if you want to do it the easy way. Yeah, this really. Cut out this and booze and it'll fall off. The challenge then is eating the right stuff to build muscle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:46:59 GMT
Thanks lads. Also welcome advice on whether this is a decent routine: www.coachmag.co.uk/fitness/workouts/dumbbell-workoutsNeed to figure out the optimal weight for each set - I reckon it'll change. I can bang out a set of curls at 12kg easy, but can barely do any flyes at that weight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 14:49:16 GMT
Assume I'm also right in thinking that while it might be good to bang out a set or two between meetings, the real benefit comes from consistent time under tension?
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Post by Vortex on Nov 24, 2022 15:21:59 GMT
Indoor (&outdoor) cycling, rowing, even an elliptical trainer would let you do cardio with low impact for dodgy knees. Swimming too. There's no excuses accepted in this thread! What sort of thing can / should I do at home that's good cardio but low impact? I have a concept 2 and wattbike at home, cheaper options are available if you think you will use them. concept 2 even do reconditioned ones. Depends how much space for exercise shite you have at home though. We used to have an elliptical trainer in the garage, but it didn't suit us as we both preferred running outside, unlike my being a massive wuss on the bike- soon as it gets cold/rainy, time for indoors!
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